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der Berliner last won the day on January 2 2023

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  1. Yet again ... basic point scoring? There is no doubt that Nazi Germany, Japan, you name it, did heinous acts and committed war crimes. That does not mean that war crimes to "counter" this are not war crimes either. Nor are war crimes and mass murder in this day and age any better. You think that a German may not say so because of his own past. As has been pointed out, US and British history is littered with this too, there is no moral high ground for anyone in this. And if the US or Israel is committing mass murder, it will be noted and said. Same with China, Russia, or whomever you deem "worthy" of that "honour". Just stop pretending that one mass murder is worse or better than another. There is sure nothing anywhere near as vile and brutal as the recent wars of the US/NATO or Israel against the populations of the attacked countries going on in Ukraine. The official death toll can be checked every other day. But I see the replies have gone somewhat quieter after the above posts anyway. Wonder why ...
  2. Time flies. Most answers have already been given. We've been through this "Russia bombs civilians" before, nothing has changed. Civilians are being killed, and will be killed. Not on purpose, though. Russia will lay the Ukrainian infrastructure low to keep it from sustaining their war effort. Military equipment, people, you name it, are all relying on electricity, transport, etc.. Hence, this will be destroyed. People sit in the cold and darkness? Yes. No partying in the bigger cities, as people sit in the metro? Sad. In any war the West has waged these last 30odd years and more, these people would have far greater problems than that. The "Islamists" in Moscow were pawns. There's a reason why next to no terrorist in the Western attacks is caught, or let's get himself caught. You see these guys and see Tajik goat herders rather than hardcore jihadists. Hired killers. And Ukraine has a long history of hiring these kind of people, as you can e.g. see in the article linked above. Whatever these chaps from Moscow confess will be disputed to no end in the West, yet, they dispute anything the Kremlin says anyway, no matter how blatant the facts are that stare them in the face. Nothing new, and Russia won't care.
  3. I never liked international breaks. Not least as it whips up threads like this ...
  4. It's not that they flattened Gaza from above for a week or two ... nope, never. Where has that chap been of late?
  5. For an ounce of perspective ... how many ceasefire drafts have the US vetoed and blocked thus far?
  6. You sure have a link to this information? You do not actually imply that nothing happened, so the terrorist could wreak some extra havoc? But kudos, who would have thought that a Scotsman on a football board would know about police stations and RosGvardia bases ... then again, it is better to know the "enemy".
  7. Various oddities regarding this IS gang, which have been listed. Aside from this, IS people have been around in Ukraine ... Ukrainian soldier wearing ISIS patch caught on Danish TV news report ByAl Mayadeen English Source: Agencies 16 Feb 2023 15:39 ... spotted by Arabian people in a video done by AP and broadcasted on the Sun's YT channel. Spreading terror amongst civilians is the prime objective here. They bomb the Belgorod region, hitting mainly civilian quarters of the cities and villages, do the odd infrastructure attack somewhere far off. Thing is ... somesuch only brings more people onto "Putin's side", as people start asking for more decisive attacks on decision centres.
  8. It seemingly has today already.
  9. He's played for months on the trot now. Maybe we just stop them from flying about for too long? We should keep our fingers crossed for Dessers now. We'll sure look for some LB in the summer, hopefully in addition to Ridvan.
  10. As it happens ... NATO aggression - 25 years ago the bombing of Yugoslavia began ... On March 24, 1999, NATO troops began bombing Yugoslavia. I’ll tell you about this in more detail for those who don’t particularly follow history, and especially for those who consider NATO to be such a white and fluffy “exclusively defensive bloc of states” that profess human rights, the rule of law and international law. On March 24, 1999, NATO Secretary General Javier Solana ordered the commander of NATO forces in Europe, American General Wesley Clark, to launch a military operation against Yugoslavia. In the evening of the same day, Belgrade, Pristina, Uzice, Novi Sad, Kragujevac, Pancevo, Podgorica and other cities and towns were subjected to air strikes. In NATO documents, the bombing was officially called Operation Allied Force; in the USA the name Operation Noble Anvil was also used. ... Anyone who likes to accuse Russia and its leadership of "the first destruction of the established world architecture since World War II” and violation of state borders - I suggest you remember NATO’s aggression against a sovereign, internationally recognized state in the very center of Europe. And what’s quite interesting is that NATO began its bombing without UN authorization, calling it a “humanitarian intervention,” essentially ignoring the UN Charter, which prohibits the use of force without a decision of the UN Security Council or not for the purpose of self-defense. ... And it's not a joke. For example, here is what Czech President Vaclav Havel said about this in an article in Le Monde on April 29, 1999: I think there is an element in the NATO invasion of Kosovo that no one can doubt: the air attacks, the bombs, are not motivated by material interests. Their character is exclusively humanitarian: the main role is played by principles and human rights, which take precedence even over state sovereignty. This makes the invasion of the Federation of Yugoslavia legal even without a UN mandate. Here we can recall the attack on the Belgrade television center and the Chinese Embassy - humanitarian bombing in all its glory. ... 25 years ago, the Western world, without UN sanction, tore apart a sovereign state in the center of Europe. Don't forget this. Especially when you hear about the peace-loving NATO bloc, which, of course, does not threaten anyone. https://telegra.ph/NATO-aggression---25-years-ago-the-bombing-of-Yugoslavia-began-03-23 The story goes that NATO decided to jump in and help Kosovo "separatists" who were chased by the Serbians. The excuse was 45 murdered Albanian "civilians" in the village of Racak, which the UN commission for determining war crimes WAS NOT ALLOWED by the US to go, since Richard Holbrooke decided it was a "genocide" (Kosovo than had 2,100,000 resident of which 1,700,000 were Albanians, so 45 dead, and it is a "genocide"), the bombing campaign lasted for 78 days, destroying infrastructure and industry which was already destroyed by sanctions. Obviously, the Balkans were a hotspot of inter-ethnical and -religious violence for ages. These "separatists" did not hold a referendum, they whipped up a parliament which decided the separation of Kosovo. NATOstan and the EU instantly accepted Kosovo as an independent country (remember, they didn't even asked the people), about half the planet did not and does not. Methinks I did mention it before, but I guess you do note the "separatists vs genocidal government" background? For some reason, some separatists are good separatists (Kosovo), and others are not (Donbass). Some genocide actions are true genocide actions (Kosovo), others are not (Donbass). Rules-based society is such a fine thing if you lay down the rules and change them according to your whim.
  11. This is a shortened video where the first two cruise missiles (KH-101s) have been cut. That incoming Kinzhal sounds like nothing I have ever heard ...
  12. The US and Britain put out a warning on March 7th for their countrymen to avoid large concentration of crowds. Mrs. Nuland soke of some "surprises" soon after. Now, some chaps from Tajikistan found the guts to live out the IS dreams and run amok in Moscow. And make their way to Bryansk and Ukraine. Yep. I could write a few lines and post a few pictures from the various channels, regarding the who and where and why, only for them to be ignored. Maybe in days to come. At the end of the day, these scumbags killed lots of innocent people (including children). No matter where and in which country, and who's the victim, it is abysmal behaviour.
  13. Replying to your quote of the Chelsea Boy ... @Frankie am I writing incoherent troll stuff? I've put half a handful of posters on my ignore list, so I don't have to read stuff like what the aforementioned produces. It is all jibes, snides, pics, and the like, hardly any sort of input to the thread as such. Yet, as it seems, they have fun going on and on with this. I remembered your remark about the sin bins a few weeks ago, but maybe an advice to just avoid this debate (if they have nothing useful to say), or myself via the ignore list before applying administrative power?
  14. Didn't you say you were using Telegram too? If so, you can have a look at the channel of Weeb Union (the chap with the daily YT updates), he gives info updates from various of his sources, from either side. A former Ukrainian Secret Service man is telling you a few things about what goes on in Ukraine on a daily basis at UKR LEAKS eng. And for a not so unbiased link, try Intel Slava Z BTW, that attack on the Russian border ... what did they gave them to do this pointless suicide thing?
  15. It sometimes makes you wonder. They get a full article on the material sent by the US et al, with links to sources easily verifiable, written by an author from the US, who did nothing but look at the facts as they are. But, it seemingly is not up to the narrative and thus "cannot be verified"? Yet, on the other hand, Ukraine strikes deep into Russian territory (well, more likely some "partisans" called terrorists elsewhere on the planet with short range drones) and causes terror and could, might, possibly, lay the Russian infrastructure low? To "verify" this, I had a look at what German news outlets reported and lo-and-behold, a couple of attempts made this month, one chap died because he had a stroke, the fires were out within hours. Says the German not-exactly-pro-Russian MSM. I see Bill is dragging the tank issue into this again? I mean, this is so childish that it beggars belief. Not that Bill falls to the non-true trash being presented as the modus operandi, with next to no evidence being presented. But that this can easily be verified from enough sane sources and reports as fiction. The Ukrainians show every tank they manage to get, and I am sure there is a neat Sky News tank-kill newsreel on this. How many WW 2 era tanks have been shown there? Mind you, it would be T-34s. None, I would assume. Bill's probably making a point about the T-55s. Obviously, since Ukraine claims to have destroyed all T-90s, T-80s, T-72s and T-64s at the front, Russia had to get the ancient stuff out of the storage? T-90s ... 417 T-90/T-90A and T-90M in active service. 200 T-90/T-90A and T-90M in storage T-80s ... In 1995, the number of T-80 tanks increased to around 5,000 but was reduced in 1998 to 3,500. T-72s ... The Russian Federation had over 10,000 T-72 tanks in use, including around 2,000 in active service and 8,000 in reserve (mostly T-72Bs). T-64s ... Russia – approximately 4,000 in 1995. In 2014, Russia had approximately 2,000 which it had phased out of service and believed to be slated for destruction, according to NATO and the United States Department of State. (Hear hear ... ) T-62s ... At least 2,000 were inherited from the Soviet Union. 761 were in active service in 1995. 191 were in active service and 1,929 in storage as of 2000. T-55 ... 27,500 T-55, T-55A, T-55K1, T-55K2, T-55K3, T-55AK1, T-55AK2 and T-55AK3 tanks were produced between 1955 and 1981. There you have it, 10 mins research, and you can easily check out and verify this data with other sources. Now, are we to expect that Ukraine has wrecked 14,000+ more modern Russian tanks by now? If so, I want some of the medicine that makes anyone believes this. But tanks have been withdrawn from storage! Yes indeed. To what end? See below ... ... that's the older versions of the T-72s, BTW. As for the T-55s (a variant called M-55 has been used by the Ukrainians, but don't tell anyone - check Slovenia at the T-55 quotation above): it is all about infantry support, be it directly with assault groups (of which I have seen one video since mid 2023), or indirectly, as self-propelled artillery, with fire being guided by drone operators. Something that has been rather evident on either side of the conflict is that self-propelled guns have become very vulnerable to drone attacks, since they are by default not heavily armoured. As for the T-55 ... Trials with nuclear weapons showed that a T-54 could survive a 2–15 kt nuclear charge at a range of more than 300 metres (980 ft) from the epicentre, but the crew had a chance of surviving at a minimum of 700 metres (2,300 ft). It was decided to create an NBC (nuclear, biological, and chemical) protection system which would start working 0.3 seconds after detecting gamma radiation. Thing is, most of these tanks were and are not meant for frontline duty either, but placed deeper in the defence line of the failed Ukrainian offensive last year. Low-maintenance, self-propelled, easy to handle, and ammunition (a different calibre than the usual 125 and 152 mm) in abundance. Russian pragmatism for you. Same with turning free-falling bombs of up to 1.5 tons into deadly glide bombs which are dropped out of reach of air-defences. @Idisi .. und pass auf, das ist ihnen wieder zu lang, so gibt's nur wieder lustige Bemerkungen oder dergleichen.
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