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I agree on the antipathy bit. The Chris McLaughlin thing at Easter Road was five years ago, the Richard Gordon/Filip Sebo quip a dozen years ago, James Cook's apology for deliberately portraying McCoist as sectarian was 7-8 years past, The Kevin 'the H-u-n' Thomson file was 13-14 years ago, Michael Stewart's latest outburst was back in March, Cosgrove's lies continual and continuous, ....etc. We need a time line on all the incidents, how many apologies have PQ offered the club in the last three season? Half a dozen at least. The length and scale of PQ's organised careful hate is illustrated by a demonstration that took place in the PQ car park ten years ago. The Police estimated a shade over two thousand Rangers supporters turned up prior to a Saturday match. It was peaceful, lasted half-an-hour, some chants, a letter was submitted at reception highlighting BBC Scotland bias. I was not involved, I stood on the periphery watching. I listened on my radio, Pat Nevin thought Rangers supporters demonstrating was a hoot, and demanded to know why we were demonstrating? Of course, the last thing the Gang Hut was going to do was go out and voxpop the gathering Bears. Instead, they took photos from the top floor, pictures of individuals, these photos began appearing on Sellik forums, a few at a time, asking if anyone could identify the subjects? I suspect Carson will adopt the path of least resistance, he'll kick the can down the road.

With this and Cadbury, it's "Chocs away!!"

It's been suggested that the players themselves informed the club as soon as the police were involved, which was the only sensible thing they did that night.

Probably got the idea from reading Rangers supporters reaction on social media.

Griffiths has actually been rewarded(or is it a punishment) by being called up for Scotland,

Would be nice to know who voted for what

No wonder Jones and Edmundson have such a bad altitude.

The feeding frenzy is a conditioned response. The SFA want to be seen extracting their pound of flesh. Rangers as a club seem to have been made aware of the incident within minutes of police intervention. The timeous suspensions and ensuing statement have been congratulated by the the Scottish Government. Rangers are holding the trump card. I note Rangers have been fined approx £4,5000 by UEFA for a Covid contravention during the Galatasaray game. It's good to know during lockdowns/Tiers/local restrictions that members of FARE still get access to Ibrox.

Goodbye Donalda, Hello Steve. Half a century past, there was an annoying chart single(weren't they all) by Cliff Richard, 'Goodbye Sam, Hello Samantha'. The gist was Cliff leaving the boys behind in favour of girls. Also, he waved cheerio to both Joe and Lou for the delights of Joanne and Louise. Confusing really, given Cliff's public admittance of asexuality, the colostomy bag, and his then decade long correspondence with both Kray twins. In the hypocrisy stakes, it's small potatoes compared to the Beeb's tolerance of Jimmy Saville's predatorial behaviour and subsequent cover up. Auntie Beeb is a continuum, soon to be a century of principle. You pay your license fee and look what you receive in return; several national radio stations, dozens of regional radio stations, plus a similar division of TV provision, and the jewel in the crown, the world service. Outstanding value, not replicated any where else in the world. The vast majority of those employed by the BBC believe in public service broadcasting, proud to provide the service. There have been historic notable exceptions, the afore mentioned Saville and the Beeb's live coverage of the Police raiding Sir Cliff's Berkshire home. Did the BBC satisfy public interest? Last month, BBC Scotland announced a substantial loss, the two year old BBC Scotland TV Channel was crashing and burning. The flag ship show, 'the Nine' was on occasion attracting under 5,000 viewers.Voluntary redundancies were required and a couple of dozen well kent, most experienced broadcasters decided to take the packages and run. Gordon Brewer, Isabel Fraser, Brian Taylor, Reevel Alderson, Kenneth MacDonald, Bill Whiteford, ...... etc left the PQ building. Chief Political Editor, Brian Taylor departed in a spirit of bonhommie, still flashing his Arab credentials, but not referring anymore to his time at St Andrews Uni' with Alex Salmond. Bill Whiteford withdrew, continuing to fly the flag of principle high. Bill Whiteford presented Drivetime for two decades, interviewed all the political heavyweights with the same gusto, he wanted to inform his listeners. Educated in Aberdeen, living in Stirlingshire, his interests are hillwalking and motorbikes. I have never heard him express any interest in football. On Friday morning, he presented his last show and his guest was newly appointed Director of BBC Scotland Steve Carson. He succeeded Donalda MacKinnon. Listeners questions were interspersed with those of the Host, and BBC bias was soon to the fore. Whiteford set up Carson by reminding him Rangers had won their Europa Cup game the night before 1-0, further the club's Europa record so far, was a perfect six points. Bill continued, "why would Rangers supporters listen to BBC Scotland when we give them no coverage, we have no interviews with the manager or the players"? He pointed out a competitor, STV had the interviews exploiting a local good news story. At this point, I should mention Whiteford had Tweeted his farewell message, "that's me aff then" alongside two photographs, one of the PQ Clydeside building and the other being the American Embassy in Saigon in 1975. Depicted is the last Huey helicopter leaving the roof of the Embassy. As the rotary wing began to flare, Steve Carson began to splutter. He grasped for, "it's a matter of huge regret" and, "we are making every endeavour to resolve". Choppers have a real whine going as the wing bites purchase from the air, not nearly as high pitched as Steve Carson answering a perfectly reasonable question. Rangers supporters, particularly the elderly, the infirm, those in remote areas, .... etc all pay their license fees, why NO SERVICE? The Gang Hut cabal will love Steve as much as they admired Donalda. He was Head of TV at RTE, married long term RTE Presenter, Miriam O'Callaghan, they have eight children. I suspect uttering regret, endeavour, and resolve will be Steve's comfort blankets? The situation at PQ is akin to the Saville/Richard situations, a cabal have been allowed to deliberately manufacture a situation whereby only those taking the rite of passage get a slice of the economic pie. Inside BBC Scotland, rattling it into the H-u-ns improves your standard of life. Well done Bill Whiteford, a principled man.

Couple of interesting Glasgow Airport partnerships with players as well I heard.... Air Traffic Control are sponsoring Helander and the Mile High Club are partnering with Greegsy.

I think we're just winging it.

After a few years of turbulence, it looks like clear skies up ahead.

Just been reading that Solskjaer over his first 100 games has better stats than Klopp had for his first century of games that's one for the stats boys. It's a funny old game

The question for me is this. Would the two of them have turned up for training next day if the police hadn't been involved? You have to assume they would have. They broke the rules deliberately or in ignorance but either way they would almost certainly have put the entire footballing operation in jeopardy and that beggars another question. Has this happened before - perhaps many times, perhaps with other players involved - but not come to light because they were never discovered? Whatever the case, the possible consequences are so severe that this is one occasion where deterence is the most important aspect of punishment and both Edmundson and Jones should be released from their contracts immediately.

Yes, you might well be right and it wouldn't be a big surprise if you were.

No, no really.

Scottish press reverting to type re rangers. did this end any of the Aberdeen players careers at the club. Bolingoi was already being driven out this just gave celtc an excuse not to be blamed for signing a dud. These guys should be punished then we move on. If we went them to go they go and if not that's fine.

Bamford had started to make me change my mind about him, after an impressive goalscoring start. Did anyone see the sitter last night? Even the later one-on-one should have been buried. I'm now back to thinking he's a donkey.

Kris Boyd 2 Nov 2020, 21:44 Updated: 2 Nov 2020, 21:44 FOR their sake I hope it was one helluva party. Because for Jordan Jones and George Edmundson, that late night out on Sunday has just cost them their Rangers careers. I can’t see any way back for the pair after this. Their brainless stupidity may have been a rush of blood to the head. I can’t think they made a conscious decision to risk everything by attending what the kids these days call “a gaff”. But that’s neither here nor there. The fact is, there are no excuses for their decision to party with a load of people when they should have been tucked up in bed. In normal times, these things happen. I’ve been there myself, back in the day, when you fancy a beer or two and off you go. But the world isn’t a normal place right now. There are rules there to protect footballers and the game from an awful virus that’s showing no signs of letting up any time soon. Jones and Edmundson are not young kids any more. They should have known better and deserve all that’s coming to them. Maybe Rangers will go easy. Maybe they’ll wrap their knuckles and fine them a few weeks’ wages for stepping out of line. But if you’re asking me if there is any way back for them, then I have to say I can’t see it. In my opinion, we won’t see them in a light blue jersey again. Chances are, they will be shipped out as soon as the transfer window opens. It’s an issue of trust. And I suspect Steven Gerrard will take a dim view of two players who weren’t thinking about the team when they decided it was time to party. Let’s get it right — this isn’t in the same ballpark as the controversial incidents at Celtic and Aberdeen earlier this season. Eight lads at Pittodrie went out on the town, while Boli Bolingoli jumped on a plane and flew off to Spain for a break, for crying out loud. Jones and Edmundson aren’t as bad as that lot. But they still let their manager, team-mates and club down on Sunday night. They showed a real lack of professionalism and for the life of me I can’t understand it. Okay, so they are both fringe players. They weren’t involved against Kilmarnock at Rugby Park, and aren’t in the squad for the European game this week. They had Monday off and, in normal circumstances, I can understand why they would want to let off some steam. Had they been due to train on Monday morning then chances are they wouldn’t have switched on their disco lights. But it’s just as well for them that they got caught. Can you imagine the uproar had they waltzed into the training ground yesterday morning, and it didn’t emerge they had been to a party until later in the week? Rangers are very lucky in that regard. They were obviously tipped off about things and were able to act swiftly. Had that not happened — and Jones and Edmundson mixed with other players — then this whole thing would be ten times worse. I would have been saying Rangers would have needed to forfeit points for games postponed, just as I said for Celtic and Aberdeen. But this is different so that’s not an issue, even though some hard-of-understanding Celtic supporters out there will no doubt be claiming double standards on my part. Fact is, Rangers nipped this in the bud before it became an issue. And all they need to do is discipline the two players involved. For me, that’s only going to end one way for the two of them. Badly. In years to come they’ll surely look back and ask themselves what the hell they were thinking. But it is hard to have any sympathy. Being at Rangers, or Celtic for that matter, is all about dealing with the pressure you’re under, both on the park and off it. If you fall short, then you don’t belong there. That may sound harsh, but it’s the reality of life as an Old Firm player. I would cut them some slack for the fact they haven’t been able to force their way into the team lately. But on the other hand there will be a reason for that. Have they been training hard enough or going through the motions? I don’t know, but this doesn’t look good on either of them. I played with Jordan at Kilmarnock and he deserved to get his move to Rangers. He earned it for his performance and I was delighted for him. But to throw it away like this baffles me. These lads must have seen the outrage with Bolingoli and the boys at Aberdeen. They must have known what was in store if they got caught. And in this day and age, moving under the radar as an Old Firm player in Glasgow is virtually impossible. The way I see it, though, that won’t be something they need to worry about soon enough. https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/6231336/jones-edmundson-rangers-careers-over-kris-boyd/?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1604353577

Carson shouldn't have any obvious antipathy to us, as a Methody educated Belfast 'Prod' you'd expect him to at least have an open mind. I'd be surprised if Carson doesn't at least encourage his Sport's Department to try and rebuild some bridges, but I doubt he'll force it or fire anyone over it. I met his Dad once, we didn't talk about football unfortunately!

There is nothing to resolve. The bbc chose not to cover our games. They can start again anytime.

I think Itten deserves special mention. He put in a good shift for the team.

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Could be just the boost to give the opposition a kick in the curly wurllys

I heard a Wispa about this, last week.

A fair and considered response and good advice. My formative years were spent trying to avoid advance parties of the Milton Tongs an organisation with a similar philosophy to your Sgt Major, as such I came to rely on my wits, my eyesight and my ability to run, so when rare opportunities to take advantage did arise I made the most of them. Old habits and all that.

This is fresh cash from a new share issue, I’ve met the guy a couple of times at British Embassy events in Tokyo. He is the real deal and has built a business in Asia with a current market cap of circa 10bn USD, look it up HKEX 1821. Always came across as a great guy and mentioned that he plans to inject more as he gets to know the board and Managemnet better. We are lucky to have fans like this guy, hope he doesn’t work out who wrote this!