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Our songs were/are no worse than Celtics, nor are they worse than any songs about Munich, Hillsborough, Ibrox or Matthew Harding. Yet none of the clubs that indulge in these have been moved to change, so why should we have. UEFA arent going near these songs because they'll get a fight. DM has rolled over and allowed his tummy to be tickeled and shown he's a spineless twat who doesnt give a damn about us. DM hasnt given two fucks about the situation. He put up no appeal and has doen nothing to stop the press writing whatever they want.Like I say there are other examples of offensive song sung by other fans, what DM could have said was "aye OK, but you have to take other clubs to task" we shouldnt have faced UEFA on our own.

Im not slagging them off, I am stating what is fact in regard to their behaviour. Supporting a teams opposition because you percieve them as your rivals is Celticmindedness. Fact. You wanna talk about Paraguy, t&T or Sweden? then i see Celticminded.com have a huge post goin giving them their support.

Sounds like it tho.

Well, If I may say so, your attitude is shocking. You seem like an educated person, and your posts reflect this. Please do not forget that not all our supporters are, most are from working class backgrounds and have not enjoyed the level of education of others. Some fans simply do not grasp that these songs are offensive, and will sing them to generate a good atmosphere without realising that they may be offending others. I also think its inherently wrong to attack the beliefs and background of the other fans around you. To some, the Orange Order and the songs that surround are extremly important and have deep personal meaning. As Cammy says this has long been associated with our club, if you do not partake in this you must not chastize those tho chose to. It is not your place. As I said, the fans groups must take a lead on this and maintain a balance of Rangers songs and our history.

haha, i seen that on FollowFollow. Its quality. Had me and the mates singin it v Hearts. awesome.

Decent effort, but football chants have to be punchy. Aside from the "predict a treble" one the songs you have listed are not catchy and just wouldnt work. Now I couldnt very well say that and not have a go myself. So to the tune of Yellow Submarine...... We're all happy Paul Le Guen is here today Le Guen is here today Le Guen is here today maybe not a brilliant effort, but worth a try.

Thats very harsh, You're acting like the warning signs were there and this was to be seen coming. Thats certainly not the case. Officially this is the only time this song has come into question. Sure theres been debate and the media are always on about it, but we as fans, have always fought our own corner, through our fanzines and websites. With UEFA we couldnt do that ourselves and surprise, surprise, the club did fuck all. This issue has certainly split our fanbase, you seem to be very bitter and angry towards other Rangers fans, calscot. Thats your perogative I guess, but Im sure you'd agree its a shame to want to attack a fellow Rangers fan, no matter who he is. It shows we need proper leadership to guide us on these issues and formulate a plan to remove the FTPing, whilst maintianing our identity.

I think it looks shite. Seriously.

are any of the old Rangers shops being reopened as JJB or is it only the two in Glasgow?

I think this post is futile, its happened, we cant change it

Aye keep the TA with their dresses and their flashing and their gay lookin ginger wigs away from our pristine, excellent 5 star stadium. In fact, with Wembly not being ready, why dont we invite England to play one of their qualifying games at Ibrox? (kidding of course, but lets see who that gets a rise out of )

Be that as it may, thats no reason to hate them or support whoever they are playing. Dont support them if you dont want, ignore them if you dont like them. Reeks of Celtic.

All of them. Got fed up during the portugal one cos it was shite. Will have ma portable tv on in work tonite. No worries about the boss cos he'l wanna watch it too

Spot on, its just bitter concieted Celtic behaviour to support England's rivals. Knock it on the head.

Neilson/Zinha's goal was cracking. The first few games have been cracking.

name your time and your place, beyhatch.

What about away trips tho? sure we can ban it at Ibrox, but this wont stop fans singing it away from home where the club cant control the fans. What implications could this have and if we realy do want it stopped completely, how do we do it?

so are you, cuntybaws

and also a Rangers fan.

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maybe he was

The only reason Hargreaves is in the squad is cos they were worried he'd be called up by Germany 4 or 5 years ago so theyve stuck with him to save face, he is still playing for Bayern Munich so he's not exactly a bad player, but you rarely hear of any Premiership sides wanting to sign him, which suggests no one in the English game rates him at all. Sven has never known how to uses subs, and that is why alot of England fans do not like the man. The squad itself isnt bad, but then everything leading up to the finals has been Rooney, Rooney, Rooney. The've Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard, Owen and Ferdinand, players who are first on their respective club's team sheat, yet with no management or tactics the squad struggles against Paraguy. Egland should do well and I want them to do well, but they will not win it unless Sven learns offensive, attacking tactics. and fast.

No as every other club in the coutry have a backbone in their director's box who'll stand up (sic) for the fans and the club. This same tune is used by far more clubs than us or United, but because ours MAY or MAY NOT contain a reference to killing Catholics we're getting hammered. And all because that chickenshit David Murray cant stand up (sic) to our detractors. Murray Murray Murray, Out Out Out.

And when that happens you lot'll be dancing on the tables, lifting your skirts and flashing old ladies and kids, the same way the TA do at home and away.

Aye supporting our old enemies over the country we fought beside. Great stuff, typical bitter Tartan Army Jockobite attitude.