PoohBear

I just want to thank Silva for giving me a good laugh this weekend, genuinely made me laugh out loud.

Great result, let's start putting a run of form together now and at the least put pressure on Celtic.

There are honestly very few I would keep, it's too hard to select just 5. And some of the players like Jack and Tav, I love them, but we need to freshen up and bring in a new mentality and ensure we aren't signing injury prone players in the future, I don't think it has ever worked for us.

Yeah, there is a difference between a club captain who has presided over years of being second best saying it, and a young player who has only been at the club a while. 

8 minutes ago, Fa1833 said:

Haha you don’t say but at least him and Butland are saying it ! It will be interesting to see what PC says about Sterlings comments 🤣🤣

 

 

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/dujon-sterling-sweary-rangers-confession-29022133
 

 

He is saying exactly what I believe is happening. There are players in the squad that have cultivated this frail mentality and we need to cut them loose.

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

So we sell Tav and magically we become successfully? 

 

All out ills are down to Tav and Tav alone? 

 

Tav time is coming to an end, but can think of at least a dozen players who deserved to be chopped before him.

 

(Disclaimer - I have said on numerous occasions that if the Saudi interst in Tav is genuine than we have to sell him z but we can't force him to leave). 

No one said we will magically become successful, come on....

52 minutes ago, CammyF said:

How dare you have the audacity to mention that Tav could / should be here next season 😁

 

Read the room - he, along with Lundstrum and Goldson are the modern day equivalent to witches and must be treated as such.

How long are you willing to accept failure? I have backed them all the way, particularly Tav who I think is a fantastic football player. The reality is that they have returned little in way of trophies for the club. At some point you have to change things, you have to say that enough is enough.

7 hours ago, CammyF said:

What can you do with them? Their high wages will exclude most clubs for buying them? 

 

Goldson, Tav, Lawrence, Dowell, Cantwell, Dessers, Lammers, Hagi, Ridvan, Wright etc are not going to take a pay cut to go and play at Grimsby.

 

There are a significant number of players out of contract in the summer and it's safe to assume none of them will be renewed. 

 

Still leaves us with a chunk of players who we are stuck with. 

 

3 options - play them and hope that they'll improve with better players around them, pay them off or relegate them to the bench. 

 

What doesn't help is moving players on (Kent, Morelos, Kamera, Helander etc) and replacing them with inferior quality.

 

 

If you can’t sell them and they aren’t good enough then you don’t play them and you still look for replacements. I honestly think their mentality seeps through the squad and infects new players. Look at what’s happened to Cantwell and Raskin for instance, they were completely different players when they first joined. I actually said this a year ago, the mentality gets spread through the new signings like a virus and everyone just ends up believing we can’t beat Celtic. I really think we do need a clean break fro, most of these players. 
 

Or we can just keep playing them and accept we will be second best.

8 minutes ago, CammyF said:

Because its easier to believe that getting rid of the mainstays of the team will magically solve all our problems.

 

It's simplistic - we haven't won much with them so if we get rid of them, we'll starting winning trophies. 

 

As you say, utter nonsense. 

You can’t keep repeating the same thing expecting different results. Some players have more than had their chance, no matter how much I actually like them, at some point you have to admit to yourself that they have some sort of mentality problem that is stopping them from achieving.

What I don't get is that we've looked completely knackered for weeks now, since the last Euro games. So many of our players look like they need a long rest. Is that because of the shite fitness regime the last two seasons, or is it a shite fitness regime now?

Will someone wake me from this recurring nightmare?

We can do it but I have no confidence we will do it.

4 hours ago, Rousseau said:

We've been worse since McCausland has been (hopefully) rested. 

Thats actually true, but I'm not sure that was the reason. I think Cortes is a huge miss for us.

The thing I don’t get is that befor Clement arrived all the talk was of how attacking his teams were, almost to a point of naivety. I don’t think I’ve really seen that yet? I guess I saw some naivety with our defending from corners, but I was hoping we might get some more energy going forward too…

1 hour ago, CammyF said:

Aye for half their wages - dream on. 

Butland did this.

4 minutes ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

Ridvan and Davies need moved on.

 

Davies another massive waste of resources. Our recruitment has been criminal.

I’m actually shocked Davies is still at the club, I thought he had moved on! 😐

It doesn’t matter if we are stuck with players, if they aren’t good enough we have to find better. 
 

I actually like Tav and Goldson, but just like Morelos and Kent, we’ve let them stay too long. Individually I think they are excellent players, however they have been battered from pillar to post by Celtic for years and have barely put a dent in them. There is something wrong with their mentality.  We can’t be starting next season with these guys in our strongest lineup.

2 minutes ago, CammyF said:

But who do you replace them with?

 

Take the back 4 as an example - none of them up to the job. 

 

Would a back 4 of Sterling, King, Balogun and Yfeko win you the league? 

The problem is that successive managers haven't even tried to replace these players, they have continued to build a team around them. Some of them have been at the club for nearly 10 years with one league title to show for it.

Just now, CammyF said:

The question remains, how could we have addressed it in January when we had no money to spend? 

 

We brought in loans, some with options / obligations to buy in the summer.

People will hate it, but we could have brought in Shankland, we would have scored goals. Players like Silva are a waste of time, but hopefully Clement has learned that. 

Just now, RANGERRAB said:

But he can’t clear the squad out if he’s got players on contracts.

We’re still paying certain players wages they’d never get elsewhere.

thats got to stop

Regardless, we've continued to build a team around these players rather than relegating them to part roles.

3 minutes ago, RANGERRAB said:

Clement is in the same position as his 2 predecessors.
Hes inherited a squad full of players he never signed who aren’t up to the job and can’t get rid off them.
Do we let him sign players in the summer like GvB and Beale did then when they’re not good enough sack Clement around September/ October and bring in someone else to see what they can do?

And if he doesn’t work start all over again in a year’s time 

But they didn't clear the squad out. If Clement can't see that persisting with these players will cost him his job then he doesn't deserve to be here, just like the previous two. 
 

Like the old saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again."

Nothing much has changed really, we had a good honeymoon period under Clement but nothing has changed in as much as we need a squad rebuild this summer. Unfortunately the Jan signings have largely not worked either through injury, lack of desire or lack of skill. 

I've got the kids and been out all day, just looked at the scoreline 😳

wtf

I think there is a good player in there if we can keep him fit and confident.

14 minutes ago, compo said:

Need to stop this passing to each other just outside the penalty box that’s okay if your man city or Arsenal they have real defenders we’ve got a bunch of eejit who are a liability just get the ball up to the half backs and concentrate on defending 

The stats show that we had twice the amount of possession and passes around the opponents box than Celtic did, but with a lower xg or whatever the fuck it's called. Seems like a very ineffective strategy.