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Seen a discussion on another forum debating where the present Rangers team would be playing if in England. My own view would be league 2 at best going by what I've seen least season and this. Is that too harsh a view?

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If we were in England it would be scary to think how much of a bigger mess we could end up with given Green, Whyte and Co could end up with 100 times what they got out of us last year. Yes the potential is there and we would have had a stronger squad but time wise we would have been league 2 at best.

 

But if the original OP meant how would this team fair in England right now with the squad we have then my answer would be:

 

With Ally we'd be bottom 6 in the Championship and Mid League 1.

With a much better manager and coaching staff possibly mid Championship.

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Sidenote: we should actually try to get a closer tie with some of the northern "low key" English teams, a mutual agreement for e.g. youngster exchanges, loans and whatnot. Primarily aimed at a) giving our more promising youngsters some sort of really competitive experience and b) send them to a side that could actually offer to pay their wages more than Airdrie or East Fife would.

 

Furthermore, we should even now look to arrange some friendlies with e.g. Leeds United, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton Wanderers, Wolves et al, teams who drop out of any promotion issues, but with the potential to bring along some crowds (either home or away). So we get some tougher and better quality opponents for the current squad.

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Sidenote: we should actually try to get a closer tie with some of the northern "low key" English teams, a mutual agreement for e.g. youngster exchanges, loans and whatnot. Primarily aimed at a) giving our more promising youngsters some sort of really competitive experience and b) send them to a side that could actually offer to pay their wages more than Airdrie or East Fife would.

 

Furthermore, we should even now look to arrange some friendlies with e.g. Leeds United, Sheffield Wednesday, Bolton Wanderers, Wolves et al, teams who drop out of any promotion issues, but with the potential to bring along some crowds (either home or away). So we get some tougher and better quality opponents for the current squad.

 

Both good suggestions in my book. I have been surprised at the lack of friendlies against "name" opposition.

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The Conference has better, much fitter, teams, bigger crowds and a lot more income than all the teams we currently face.

 

Well, there are some "bigger teams" from the past in there, but some low keys too. Lincoln, Chester, Luton, Macclesfield, Grimsby and Wrexham belonged to the higher leagues when I was paying more attention to English football a decade or so ago. Don't know about the overall standard there though. Crowds, well, a look at last weekend say that they have somewhere inbetween 600 and 3,500 people, pending whether you take Hyde or Grimsby as samples.

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Well, there are some "bigger teams" from the past in there, but some low keys too. Lincoln, Chester, Luton, Macclesfield, Grimsby and Wrexham belonged to the higher leagues when I was paying more attention to English football a decade or so ago. Don't know about the overall standard there though. Crowds, well, a look at last weekend say that they have somewhere inbetween 600 and 3,500 people, pending whether you take Hyde or Grimsby as samples.

 

The lowest there being higher than Cowdenbeath usually get in the league above ours. Our presence obviously increases the overall gates in the league we are in, last year's totals/average attendance figures between Scottish League One as it is now called - 3rd Division in old money) and the Conference would, I am sure, show that the Conference is very much better attended. If someone can supply these and prove me wrong I will apologise. Attendances aside, I saw three games in the Conference last year and the teams were fitter, faster and all round better than any I have seen us play this year (which is why we are so far ahead, of course - I am not saying where we are, frankly I think it is impossible to judge but I am sure we are paying at a lower level to the Conference.)

 

EDIT: i found these stats on the Scottish tier 3 last year:

 

"part-time clubs survive thanks to devoted and loyal support from supporters: average attendances last season ranged from 463 to 833 with just a handful of games attracting more than 1,000 supporters."

 

the conference would have far outstripped that. the population is just so much bigger, Cambridge is almost the same population as Dundee, Luton's is bigger than Aberdeen. Plus some teams in the Conference have loyal followings over many generations (the juniors were like that when I lived in Glasgow - long time ago, that was, pre Souness......are they still?)

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