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He's good at talking over people and deflecting. His central point was that there is a 20 year limit. Fine, if that's the law. If action had been started against some who had not paid taxes why would he not want the Cosla members to recover what is owed, especially when Cosla have been told he will not give them any money.

The vote-getting part, i.e. 'I'll protect you tax-dodgers from the scaremongers' - how can a person like yourself who paid taxes, support Salmond's stance?

 

two things: Salmond is standing down he's not going for votes. Second, why do you think that all these people who rejoined the electoral roll are SNP or yes voters? What evidence there is would point to them being unionist and No voters.

 

as to your COSLA question - did you actually listen to the interview? All those questions are answered clearly there.

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two things: Salmond is standing down he's not going for votes. Second, why do you think that all these people who rejoined the electoral roll are SNP or yes voters? What evidence there is would point to them being unionist and No voters.

 

as to your COSLA question - did you actually listen to the interview? All those questions are answered clearly there.

 

 

He's not getting votes for himself but for the party. This is a known practice. There are a lot of people who will listen to the soundbyte and be happy with that.

There were a lot more voters joined the electoral rolls than joined the SNP bandwagon after the vote. I thought I was being fair by splitting the total. Really, do you think that Salmond gives a hoot about Union voters being scared?

Cosla - anybody over 20 yrs. can't be chased, fair enough to point that out. Anybody who has been contacted in the last 20 yrs but has disappeared and now re-appeared on the electoral roll, why would Salmond make a law to debar the Cosla authorities the enhanced ability of recovering debt? If that is not the intention of bringing in the law, why introduce it then? I'm sure that in other areas of debt collection people get more frightened by the methods of bailiffs etc. than a letter from the local authority.

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yet, oddly an article in Forbes magazine - hardly the Morning Star - placed the NHS as the world's best healthcare system:

 

1. United Kingdom

2. Switzerland

3. Sweden

4. Australia

5. Germany & Netherlands (tied)

7. New Zealand & Norway (tied)

9. France

10. Canada

11. United States

http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2014/jun/mirror-mirror

 

The countries with health care systems based on your "failed socialist experiment" all turn out to be the best, whereas the one which uses the system you advocate, doesn't even make the top ten.

 

The thread is about tax, so don't feel you have to hide your opinions. I take it you're all for paying for health care, higher education, nursing homes etc? Every man for himself?

 

I guess it's all about opinions. The NHS, I feel, places a huge burden on the taxpayer. I've seen first hand the corruption, the poor elderly care, the glaring inefficiencies and I really can't be bothered going into it all.

 

I note Sweden is 3rd and they have the type of health care system being introduced in England where the private sector contributes.

 

This thread is all about tax, and I say lower taxes for everyone, remove the intrusive and inefficient state from peoples lives and watch the country flourish. It's no coincidence that Isle of Man is the richest 'part' of the UK.

 

As someone said before, stop chasing the Poll Tax and refund the guys who did pay, there's a great idea.

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The NHS is the best thing in the UK. I paid for surgery then had same operation the following year on NHS. NHS was superior in every department.

 

I'm glad you think so. Guess it depends on your experience.

 

My experience is vastly different, and I'd prefer not to be taxed to pay for the NHS. I'd then take out health insurance as an alternative. Sadly, we don't get such a choice and I don't see why I should need to pay for health care twice.

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I'm glad you think so. Guess it depends on your experience.

 

My experience is vastly different, and I'd prefer not to be taxed to pay for the NHS. I'd then take out health insurance as an alternative. Sadly, we don't get such a choice and I don't see why I should need to pay for health care twice.

 

My Dad was an ambulance man for 25 years he saw the wastefulness & how the tories strangled the NHS. Maybe an option for people with money/think like you/or a n other reasons would be you pay for insurance & pay a reduced amount of national insurance to cover emergencies.

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I'm glad you think so. Guess it depends on your experience.

 

My experience is vastly different, and I'd prefer not to be taxed to pay for the NHS. I'd then take out health insurance as an alternative. Sadly, we don't get such a choice and I don't see why I should need to pay for health care twice.

 

A nice ideal, but what about the large percentage of society which wouldn't bother taking out health insurance? It wouldn't bother a callous bastard like myself, but turning the injured and dying away from receiving hospital treatment would certainly upset the caring, sharing mob.

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Using the electoral roll for anything other than the democratic process, is about as vile, and undemocratic as it gets. Perhaps we could round these scoundrels up outside the many food banks that this wonderful British government has created.

 

The "poll tax", was inherently unjust, and as such, deserved to be protested against. Chasing people for payment after 20 years, is as ridiculous, as it is futile. If they didn't pay then, it's doubtful they will suddenly cough up now.

 

It's more than likely just another excuse for central government to squeeze the life out of local government budgets.

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I guess it's all about opinions. The NHS, I feel, places a huge burden on the taxpayer. I've seen first hand the corruption, the poor elderly care, the glaring inefficiencies and I really can't be bothered going into it all.

 

I note Sweden is 3rd and they have the type of health care system being introduced in England where the private sector contributes.

 

This thread is all about tax, and I say lower taxes for everyone, remove the intrusive and inefficient state from peoples lives and watch the country flourish. It's no coincidence that Isle of Man is the richest 'part' of the UK.

 

As someone said before, stop chasing the Poll Tax and refund the guys who did pay, there's a great idea.

 

You keep repeating the same mantra about the inefficient state but provide no evidence to support your claims. You claim the NHS is a burdon on the tax payer when it has proven itself just about the most efficient health care system in the word; you say that you would prefer a private health care system, when this proves itself to be more expensive and less efficient than state run health care.

 

You haven't answered the question as to whether you think we should do away with free higher education, whether child benefit should be abolished or whether free nursing homes and health care for the elderly should be scrapped - seeing as how these are all either socialist or SNP initiatives.

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