Bluedell 5,329 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 In helping to prove any link could the board members in attendance be called as witnesses? From the OP the timeline suggests Muir and possibly that board meeting was the catalyst for Whyte's way in. If I was Muir and being hit with that I'd just say that part of my job was to fully understand all financial matters and the questions were only in respect of that. Whilst you and I may not believe that, I have a feeling that any court of law would find any link tenuous unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 agreed. it would take more evidence than that and possibly testimony from others. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,329 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Someone within the club HAD to have rubber stamped the sale of future ST's. Maybe not. It was all provisional until Whyte bought the club and it's possible it was done without anyone at the club knowing. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhunter 0 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 The minutes in themselves wouldn't prove anything (and probably would not record anything damning anyway). It could only be used once a link between Muir and Whyte was clearly established. PS took me a while to understand what the OP was meaning. Had to reread it several times to get the timeline right and realise what Ticketus cash and what Jelavic transfer was being referred to was their not a connection between muir and grier So who does Paul Murray feel has questions to answer over what happened to the club? "I think Donald Muir's role needs to be fully examined, I've spent a good deal of time with BDO and I am really challenging them to have a full investigation of everyone's actions, including my own. I think Donald Muir's conduct has to be looked at quite closely, in particular his relationship with David Grier. http://www.therangersstandard.co.uk/index.php/articles/current-affairs/204-paul-murray-the-rangers-standard-interview-part-2 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
the gunslinger 3,366 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 i think the trouble is someone at ticketus or ticketus were on huge commission and wanted the deal to go through as much as whyte. i remember reading 1 million commission every time we borrowed 9 and we did that 4 times. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW 0 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Muir the big Rangers man eh. I hope he develops a conscience and it eats away at him like a flesh eating virus. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhunter 0 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 i think the trouble is someone at ticketus or ticketus were on huge commission and wanted the deal to go through as much as whyte. i remember reading 1 million commission every time we borrowed 9 and we did that 4 times. That Ticketus deal is the fulcrum to all of this. I can't believe for one second no one at Ticketus contacted the out going board to ask if they were aware that whyte was seeking funding from them before he'd even acquired the club. This wasn't the previous smaller amounts of 4/5 M to see the season through it was 24Million. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,329 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 That Ticketus deal is the fulcrum to all of this. I can't believe for one second no one at Ticketus contacted the out going board to ask if they were aware that whyte was seeking funding from them before he'd even acquired the club. This wasn't the previous smaller amounts of 4/5 M to see the season through it was 24Million. A lot of these type of deals are done with the utmost confidentiality and it could be that Whyte insisted on it. I believe that Ticketus knew exactly what they were doing and knew that they were supplying the cash that Whyte had committed to paying himself and therefore it was in their interests not to let anyone in the previous board know about it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PRW 0 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 That Ticketus deal is the fulcrum to all of this. I can't believe for one second no one at Ticketus contacted the out going board to ask if they were aware that whyte was seeking funding from them before he'd even acquired the club. This wasn't the previous smaller amounts of 4/5 M to see the season through it was 24Million. Indeed, they had bought future ST's before but for set amounts and for the following season. Alarm bells had to be ringing that a) They weren't dealing with who they usually dealt with in previous transactions b) The scale of the amount being sold c) that it was for the following season and beyond. There's no chance in hell they never sought assurances from people within the board, none! and I suspect if it had been P. Murray, King, Johnston, Bain, McClelland or Grieg that the deal would have taken until late November 2011 until the support learned of the deal via the pres 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 If I was Muir and being hit with that I'd just say that part of my job was to fully understand all financial matters and the questions were only in respect of that. Whilst you and I may not believe that, I have a feeling that any court of law would find any link tenuous unfortunately. Yes, a picture is being painted rather than a case for the prosecution being prepared. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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