Rangersitis 0 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 a couple of things in reply. at the younger age groups (generally from 11,s to 15's Rangers youth teams are excellent and would indicate that they have been able to get their hands on among the best youngsters . after that teams like Dundee united, Aberdeen , Hamilton etc seem to get these lads good enough for first team football. next up is this idea that very few youngsters will play for Rangers. Times have changed. Until the last few years that was probably the case although it didn't have to be more to do with the type of managers we had who could only work with finished pros as development was not in their skill set. we have been lower than these teams I mentioned earlier but still think we are big league big spenders.. unfortunately we kept the manager with the limited skill set and as a result completely missed the boat. the problems are so deep rooted at the club that only massive changes will remedy the situation. Excellent summation. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RANGERRAB 3,254 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 a couple of things in reply. at the younger age groups (generally from 11,s to 15's Rangers youth teams are excellent and would indicate that they have been able to get their hands on among the best youngsters . after that teams like Dundee united, Aberdeen , Hamilton etc seem to get these lads good enough for first team football. next up is this idea that very few youngsters will play for Rangers. Times have changed. Until the last few years that was probably the case although it didn't have to be more to do with the type of managers we had who could only work with finished pros as development was not in their skill set. we have been lower than these teams I mentioned earlier but still think we are big league big spenders.. unfortunately we kept the manager with the limited skill set and as a result completely missed the boat. the problems are so deep rooted at the club that only massive changes will remedy the situation. Unless they can prove they are good enough for the standard we want these youngsters serve no purpose to us. Harsh but that is the way things are at Rangers. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 The thing is we are letting them go without really having a look to see if they can raise their level. You can't always tell whether a player can hit the level by keeping him in the youths. I seem to remember we told Kenny Dalgleish he was too lightweight for the top level 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmu 0 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Unless they can prove they are good enough for the standard we want these youngsters serve no purpose to us. Harsh but that is the way things are at Rangers. ultimately, yes they have to be good enough. however the skills required to develop and nurture young players are not at our club at present. if you look at the newer crop of younger managers coming through , they have to work this way as they have no choice. the problem is the process from these young lads at about 16 years old to their introduction into the first team... 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trublusince1982 243 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 (edited) think we also as a fan base need to be better educated in the ways of youth academies and what our aims for such should be. Think Ajax have the set goal of their academy to produce three players for the first team squad every two years. That is from a well established and very well funded youth system. 6m euro a year So what is a realistic aim/goal for ours? one every two years? Edited January 4, 2015 by trublusince1982 change two to three 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmu 0 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 think we also as a fan base need to be better educated in the ways of youth academies and what our aims for such should be. Think Ajax have the set goal of their academy to produce three players for the first team squad every two years. That is from a well established and very well funded youth system. 6m euro a year So what is a realistic aim/goal for ours? one every two years? a year ago Aberdeens goal was two per season to make first team squad. any more a bonus, less and the youth department had some serious questions to answer.. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMc 2,463 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 think we also as a fan base need to be better educated in the ways of youth academies and what our aims for such should be. Think Ajax have the set goal of their academy to produce three players for the first team squad every two years. That is from a well established and very well funded youth system. 6m euro a year So what is a realistic aim/goal for ours? one every two years? This is an interesting point. A section of the Rangers support are merciless towards young players, look at the abuse that's thrown at Aird currently. Heaven forbid we might try and support the lad, you know, encourage him, help him. Fuck no, we abuse him, tell him he's shite, shouldn't be in the team and is a wage thief. That's part of the problem, a large section of our support won't allow a player to develop, to make mistakes or show inconsistency something all young players do. That vocal section expect every Rangers player to be fully formed, the finished article. Ironically they are often the same section who abuse the manager and the club for not producing young players. The SFA and the clubs should all agree to have a certain percentage of the their squad as 'home-reared', overnight it would force clubs to focus on it properly. That being said there is nothing stopping a club doing it unilaterally. But heaven help the young player who has a poor game in front of the Govan. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,499 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 This is an interesting point. A section of the Rangers support are merciless towards young players, look at the abuse that's thrown at Aird currently. Heaven forbid we might try and support the lad, you know, encourage him, help him. Fuck no, we abuse him, tell him he's shite, shouldn't be in the team and is a wage thief. That's part of the problem, a large section of our support won't allow a player to develop, to make mistakes or show inconsistency something all young players do. That vocal section expect every Rangers player to be fully formed, the finished article. Ironically they are often the same section who abuse the manager and the club for not producing young players. The SFA and the clubs should all agree to have a certain percentage of the their squad as 'home-reared', overnight it would force clubs to focus on it properly. That being said there is nothing stopping a club doing it unilaterally. But heaven help the young player who has a poor game in front of the Govan. Some people just go to the football to moan and throw abuse at the players. They normally start just after kick-off. xxxxx your a f'n wanker! They go through the whole game with the same sort of slogans. I always see to get 1 in my vicinity during a game. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy steel 0 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Some people just go to the football to moan and throw abuse at the players. They normally start just after kick-off. xxxxx your a f'n wanker! They go through the whole game with the same sort of slogans. I always see to get 1 in my vicinity during a game. And it's far from just Rangers fans. Football, in Scotland anyway, seems to attract total idiots. And they want to let the idiots get bevvied at the the game again, genius. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zappa 0 Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 And it's far from just Rangers fans. Football, in Scotland anyway, seems to attract total idiots. And they want to let the idiots get bevvied at the the game again, genius. Plenty folk get bevvied before the game anyway, so it really wouldn't make much difference, plus the price of a pint in a plastic cup from a concourse kiosk would probably be about 5 or 6 quid, so it might not be very popular. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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