No quality, no bottle, no Progrès - Should the manager be sacked?

[der Berliner 3,219]

Well, the club should organize a handful of high profile friendlies throughout the season, free of charge for those ST holders who want to go, and you will get the income that the EL games would have generated.

 

The stuff up there about PC is utterly beyond any reasoned debate though, IMHO.

[the gunslinger 3,366]

Pedro may be everything his detractors claim.

 

I still say its to early to be sure.

 

 

 

 

[compo 6,079]

Should not be to hard as to arrange a few friendly matches between now and the Motherwell match they all need match time .

[RANGERRAB 3,253]

Should not be to hard as to arrange a few friendly matches between now and the Motherwell match they all need match time .

 

Won't be easy. The LC starts soon

[Ser Barristan Selmy 222]

Or budgets perhaps.

 

We may need a big eck type.

What is a Big Eck type? Unemployed and useless?

 

He's even worse than Pedro. The Viktoria Zizkov result was more embarrassing than this given the squad he had.

Edited July 8, 2017 by Ser Barristan Selmy

[the gunslinger 3,366]

What is a Big Eck type? Unemployed and useless?

 

He's even worse than Pedro. The Viktoria Zizkov result was more embarrassing than this given the squad he had.

A genius who wins leagues with far smaller budgets than his rival in scotland.

 

That type.

 

 

[jhunter 0]

The income received from a European run, even say 3 rounds of qualies, was essential to our budget, planning, future seeding, everything the club stands for and has been desparate to get back to for the last 5 years. Failure to beat a really poor team OVER TWO LEGS is not a blip, bad night, or any such write-off. It was his second most important remit for this season, behind closing the gap at the top and ensuring a clear second place.

 

I was happy for Pedro to use this tie to bed in his players and use it as a pre-season friendly. We should have been able to rest our entire first team and play our under 20 side who would beat the part-timers no problem. We used to send our U20 to play Linfield's first team and still beat them comfortably. Progres were that level of side, and should have been brushed aside in both legs without breaking sweat.

 

The nature of the capitulation was most worrying, not the fitness level, not the integration of team harmony, but the attitude of these players and that comes down to the manager. He has been gushing at pressers saying he has been working hard with them in pre-season and they all know what he wants. He has weeded out those who dont believe in him and vice-versa, and been heavily backed by the board in providing all his transfer targets were purchased at the earliest possible moment. Why Pena and Herrera were both involved in full training but didnt start (in Pena's case not even benched) when they cant be that far behind the others, and certainly would be no less fit than our opponents, is another question for the manager.

 

Going on from a few gutless performances last season since his introduction, including a OF cup semi final and the most humiliating OF home defeat, the evidence is there for all to see that this guy IS the dud that a lot of us worried he might be when news of his impending appointment was leaked.

 

The information I got from someone very close to the inside track and the Directors (who knew we had lost the BTC on Tuesday) is very scary as to the real appointment and recruitment process which hired Pedro and all the subsequent players.

 

We can give Pedro all the time that even his staunchest supporters want to give him - it is NOT going to turn around and Stevie Wonder can see it. It seems to me the main reason for keeping him is to avoid the embarrassment of binning him after backing him so much this summer. Unfortunately you dont have to be Nostradamus to predict therer will be further humiliations before the board are forced to act.

 

I didnt want the board to sack him on Tuesday, I wanted him to resign in disgrace. £420 for a 22 hour day with Rangers Travel Club to be rewarded by the most gutless performance anybody there has ever seen, or will ever hope to see.

 

I will always be there to back the team home, away and in Europe, but I feel I can write in here amongst my fellow bears what I feel in my heart about the current situation without being branded negative or not wanting us to do well. I have been walking about totally depressed since I got back. Many tims that I discuss football with and would normally be giving me stick if we lost to Motherwell or Inverness didnt even slag me about this as they knew this was worse, much worse than anything they could ever do or say.

 

That tells you everything about just how bad this was.

 

Pedro should not have seen another sunrise as Rangers manager. Perhaps his agent can arrange the pay-off from the 10+ commissions he has "earned" from our club since April.

 

superb post

 

and admirable restraint

 

the guy's a fucking dud.

[Ser Barristan Selmy 222]

A genius who wins leagues with far smaller budgets than his rival in scotland.

 

That type.

:laugh::laugh:

 

Please stop trolling.

[der Berliner 3,219]

Well, some like-minded pals seem to have assembled early.

[JohnMc 2,463]

I flew out of Scotland on the 30th of June. Rangers were still in Europe, our most talented creative player was still on our books, there was little talk or thought of EBTs and Pedro was our manager.

I returned late last night to discover only one of the above is still true.

 

I'm staggered that anyone can make any kind of argument to keep Pedro now. It was a mistake to appoint him, it was a mistake to back him in the transfer market and it's a mistake to stick by him now just because we've invested in players he wanted. It won't come good and the sooner we accept this, make the hard but necessary change required, the better.