Pacific Quay Musings?

[BlackSocksRedTops 3,470]

1 hour ago, pete said:

His posts are a fantastic read.

Agreed. You could compile these posts into a single volume/publication and I for one would not hesitate in parting with my cash. Fantastic work 26th. Take several well deserved bows sir

[buster. 4,808]

Will PQ use it's various programmes today to highlight the lack of reaction from Celtic FC to the growing momentum that is ever more damming in detail, that rips up the club's 'nowt to do with us Guv' stance ?

 

My bet (shorter odds than City to win the Cup) is that PQ will adopt the 'nowt to do with the fitbaw but we will talk a lot about the Celtic statement on Flanagan line'

[Walterbear 557]

1 hour ago, buster. said:

Will PQ use it's various programmes today to highlight the lack of reaction from Celtic FC to the growing momentum that is ever more damming in detail, that rips up the club's 'nowt to do with us Guv' stance ?

 

My bet (shorter odds than City to win the Cup) is that PQ will adopt the 'nowt to do with the fitbaw but we will talk a lot about the Celtic statement on Flanagan line'

The BBC have their own skeletons in this particular cupboard. They ignored Saville and the rest of them for years despite strong suspicions. 

[buster. 4,808]

16 minutes ago, Walterbear said:

The BBC have their own skeletons in this particular cupboard. They ignored Saville and the rest of them for years despite strong suspicions. 

Yes, but as far as this thread is concerned, it's about BBC Scotland and how it is reporting/reacting to ongoing events in and around the Celtic Boys Club abuse scandal.

 

We'll have to see how things develop but the question that emerges is would PQ deliberately slant coverage (or lack of) to favour one side of the compensation claim case that victims have made on Celtic FC ?  And beyond that, is it part of an ongoing editorial imbalance that permeates throughout the organisation ?

 

 

This issue in particular is more about the News programmes than Sportsound.

 

 

Edited May 18, 2019 by buster.

[cooponthewing 1,139]

On 18/05/2019 at 11:26, buster. said:

We'll have to see how things develop but the question that emerges is would PQ deliberately slant coverage (or lack of) to favour one side of the compensation claim case that victims have made on Celtic FC ?  And beyond that, is it part of an ongoing editorial imbalance that permeates throughout the organisation ?

Great point made Buster ? 

[Walterbear 557]

On 18/05/2019 at 12:26, buster. said:

Yes, but as far as this thread is concerned, it's about BBC Scotland and how it is reporting/reacting to ongoing events in and around the Celtic Boys Club abuse scandal.

 

We'll have to see how things develop but the question that emerges is would PQ deliberately slant coverage (or lack of) to favour one side of the compensation claim case that victims have made on Celtic FC ?  And beyond that, is it part of an ongoing editorial imbalance that permeates throughout the organisation ?

 

 

This issue in particular is more about the News programmes than Sportsound.

 

 

I think we’re probably on the same wavelength here Buster. However I am not aware of a compensation claim case that has been made. I’m aware of threats to take them to court but those are early positioning statements from P Maguire, Celtic refuse to open a dialogue and no court papers exist. Nothing is happening in a formal legal compensation case therefore BBC have not actually got much to report on regarding a compensation claim. They would point to their Daly work in demonstrating they were generally taking the whole business seriously. Of course Daly could do a lot more now given all the stuff crawling out the woodwork. Even Celtic admit they held an inquiry into the Boys Club but no one such as the BBC have asked to see their papers. 

 

It’s very clear BBC Scotland is not applying as much airtime or other media output to this scandal as would be expected and perhaps there are complaints to be raised there but it’s hard to see what the case would be ie specifically what part of the BBC Charter would they be falling foul of.  

 

Whether they are deliberately editing in favour of either pre trial compensation position is hard to prove and I would suggest would be a lot of effort in vain and I’m not clear how you would prove the point. Without a whistleblower it’s virtually impossible to validate. A complaint of that nature would be easy to rebut at this stage imo unless you have very clear wordings in output from the BBC (or a whistleblower). 

[buster. 4,808]

9 hours ago, Walterbear said:

I think we’re probably on the same wavelength here Buster. However I am not aware of a compensation claim case that has been made. I’m aware of threats to take them to court but those are early positioning statements from P Maguire, Celtic refuse to open a dialogue and no court papers exist. Nothing is happening in a formal legal compensation case therefore BBC have not actually got much to report on regarding a compensation claim. They would point to their Daly work in demonstrating they were generally taking the whole business seriously. Of course Daly could do a lot more now given all the stuff crawling out the woodwork. Even Celtic admit they held an inquiry into the Boys Club but no one such as the BBC have asked to see their papers. 

 

It’s very clear BBC Scotland is not applying as much airtime or other media output to this scandal as would be expected and perhaps there are complaints to be raised there but it’s hard to see what the case would be ie specifically what part of the BBC Charter would they be falling foul of.  

 

Whether they are deliberately editing in favour of either pre trial compensation position is hard to prove and I would suggest would be a lot of effort in vain and I’m not clear how you would prove the point. Without a whistleblower it’s virtually impossible to validate. A complaint of that nature would be easy to rebut at this stage imo unless you have very clear wordings in output from the BBC (or a whistleblower). 

Thank's WB !

I thought there had been early moves made by the lawyer representing the victims but if not then I understand what you are saying.

[26th of foot 5,825]

Sensitivities.

 

I am in France at the moment, thus listening to the Beeb is confined to the world service.

 

On Sunday last, ra Sellik played their final league fixture of the season against Hearts. There's a trophy to b e presented at the culmination of the game, before kick-off, Hearts provided a guard of honour. Hearts have three strips, a home, an away, and a third. They wore their third kit, an all darkish blue affair. Neither of the other two would have clashed, but they could have provided severe embarrassment to a most sensitive Sellik and their support. Both have the sponsorship across the chest, 'Save the Children'.

 

In a week where the MSM in Scotland finally grew a set and challenged Sellik on their separate entity line, it was felt Hearts providing a guard of honour with Save the Children featuring prominently would be taking the pysh. A senioor Scots club had to wear a third non-sponsorship strip to assuage Sellik.

 

Apparently, this was the talk of Sunday night's Sportswriters bash. It was wondered aloud why so many Hearts supporters inside PQ decided to ignore the happening? Particularly, those on the satirical side of things. A proud sponsor ie 'Save the Children' relegated to save Peter et al, from an awkward and inconvenient situation.

 

I left the UK, just after the last old firm game(I know the term annoys some at PQ). On the Saturday, Shereen Nanjiani presented her ninety minute show and for the first time in four/five weeks, Angela Haggerty was a guest. It was the week of English sides Euro comebacks and the topic was raised. We learned from Angela has no English team, all her love is confined to ra Sellik, and the greatest comeback of all time occurred in Lisbon'67.

 

Angela's disappearance from the show coincided with the IRA's murder of Lyra McKee, a young Journalist from Belfast. Angela's last utterance on the Beeb before popping up on Shereen's; was to demand full prosecution of 'Soldier F', but explained no prosecution of IRA members could take place because as of the Good Friday Agreement, "they are a defunct organisation". Now, we can see why Angela has been missing, awkward!

 

Just like when her co-founder of 'Call it Out' Jeanette Findlay's place of work, Glasgow University received letter bombs from the IRA a couple of months past, Angela is conveniently withdrawn hors de combat. A lot of the nationalist contributors to PQ have a huge problem with Lyra McKee's murder, in fact they refuse to refer to her passing as murder. DrStu' informed us that her classification of death is, 'by crossfire'. I though you needed two sides shooting for such an occurrence? Shona Craven of the National on the Beeb was at pains to describe the poor girl's passing, "we need a new classification". Dr Eamonn O'Neill was adamant, "Lyra was not targeted".

 

Just like old firm becoming an unacceptable term at PQ, 'IRA murder' is also beyond the pale. I will leave it up to Father Edward Magill who conducted Lyra's service at St Anne's in Belfast, "why did it take the murder of a 29 year old girl ......."?

 

If we accept the language of our opponents, then we have already lost the debate.

[Scott7 5,108]

I don’t like “old firm” either but if it annoys pqcsc I might use it again.

[26th of foot 5,825]

As I remain in France, Cordes sur Ciel to be exact; and as such do not have access to BBC Scotland's highlights, how has Mikey Stewart reacted to Edouard's dive to win a penalty? A solid Jambo is Mikey, or will he allow his seething hatred of Craig Levein to 'cloud' his judgement?

 

There must be at least ten differing camera angles?