BlackSocksRedTops 3,473 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Waltersgotstyle said: Snowflake generation my arse - this is 2018 we should not be pandering to the sectarian element within our support. I also think there is a bigger picture element to this. We need to look forward as a club and we cannot just rely on a "traditional" pool for our support in the years and decades ahead. I would find it staggering that on one hand we are looking to a global figure like Stevie Gerrard to move our club forward and then on the other hand we would be taking a myopic move by introducing an orange strip. I don't want to bring religion/politics into this but as far as I can see there is nothing positive about having any connection (albeit symbolic) with the OO. It's bewildering IMO. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,329 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, Waltersgotstyle said: Snowflake generation my arse - this is 2018 we should not be pandering to the sectarian element within our support. I'm sure there are some that claim that the things listed in my previous post do the same. Where do you draw the line? It is 2018 and we should have moved on from equating a colour to sectarianism. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,329 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, BlackSocksRedTops said: I don't want to bring religion/politics into this And yet you do it anyway. It's just a colour. You don't need to bring religion into it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSocksRedTops 3,473 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bluedell said: I'm sure there are some that claim that the things listed in my previous post do the same. Where do you draw the line? It is 2018 and we should have moved on from equating a colour to sectarianism. Of course we should but the proof is in the pudding. This strip would hugely popular among sections of our support for those exact reasons. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSocksRedTops 3,473 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Bluedell said: And yet you do it anyway. It's just a colour. You don't need to bring religion into it. Fair enough but in the context of this debate it seemed pertinent. And you know and I know, it's not just a colour 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 11 minutes ago, Bluedell said: I'm sure there are some that claim that the things listed in my previous post do the same. Where do you draw the line? It is 2018 and we should have moved on from equating a colour to sectarianism. The line IMO is orange strip ok for the reasons you mention but prominent flag, not so. Or in other words, colours rather than symbols. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,329 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, buster. said: The line IMO is orange strip ok for the reasons you mention but prominent flag, not so. Or in other words, colours rather than symbols. Or have 2 versions as I suggested earlier. BSRT suggests earlier that we can't reply on our traditional pool of support, so why not try and appeal to many south of the border with a UJ top? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSocksRedTops 3,473 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bluedell said: Or have 2 versions as I suggested earlier. BSRT suggests earlier that we can't reply on our traditional pool of support, so why not try and appeal to many south of the border with a UJ top? Why limit ourselves to south of the border? On top of that, the Union Flag means nothing to a lot of people in England 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Just now, Bluedell said: Or have 2 versions as I suggested earlier. BSRT suggests earlier that we can't reply on our traditional pool of support, so why not try and appeal to many south of the border with a UJ top? Trying to be objective and forgeting my own views on flags in general.....I look at the design of the white top with Union flag incorporated and think it's a cracker that has potential to sell extremely well and not only within our support base. With that in mind and given current circumstances, I'd actually be dissappointed if we didn't go with it. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthter 542 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 5 minutes ago, BlackSocksRedTops said: Why limit ourselves to south of the border? On top of that, the Union Flag means nothing to a lot of people in England I would say that to a helluva lot of people down south, the Union flag = England flag. Here's a wee test - do a google search for "England flag", then click on Images....a very high return of Union flags. Now do the same for "Scotland Flag"...virtually no Union flags. Best just leaving all flags off the shirt.... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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