Gonzo79 13,351 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 Apparently it's 'destructive' to tell a male to "man up". https://www.bbc.com/ideas/videos/why-the-phrase-man-up-is-so-destructive/p06sdqg6 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pensively Staring 46 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 It can be for certain mental illnesses and what not. It's the old tough love vs arm round the shoulder debate. But I suppose it's all about context. Telling someone to man up when they are terminal isn't helpful I don't think. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,351 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 It's not a coincidence that the more we're informed about mental health issues, the suicide rate amongst men rises and prescription drug use goes up. Stiff upper lip? What doesn't kill you makes you stronger? Sticks and stones...? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pensively Staring 46 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 correlation isn't causation bud, I would look at the quality of life, diet and substance abuse before I lay it at the door of psychologists. I do think though, and could be entirely wrong, that single parent households also have a hand in young men not having a solid role model to build on. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,351 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 It's certainly an interesting subject. I suspect it is correlation and causation, rather than one or the other. In the modern era, (Western) men have very little to believe in. I was always told, "There's always someone worse off than you.", when I was a kid. A good thing to remember when things aren't going well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,687 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 25 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said: It's certainly an interesting subject. I suspect it is correlation and causation, rather than one or the other. In the modern era, (Western) men have very little to believe in. I was always told, "There's always someone worse off than you.", when I was a kid. A good thing to remember when things aren't going well. You can't create a generation of entitled, disrespectful, self-centred young people with neither resilience nor humility and expect them to be able to "man up". 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,351 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 A lot of the most admirable aspects of Presbyterianism seem to being disregarded...resilience, thrift, taking responsibility, work ethic and steadfastness. One wonders who can possibly benefit from a Britain full of whining jessies (who are signed off work with depression and in insurmountable debt)? 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
compo 5,952 Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 I blame the smart phone? people cat function without gawping at their phones . 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacK1950 2,224 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 28/11/2018 at 20:20, Pensively Staring said: do think though, and could be entirely wrong, that single parent households also have a hand in young men not having a solid role model to build on. I have that belief too as I feel children need both parents in upbringing. I also believe that in same gender marriages/partnerships children are also disadvantaged in not having father & mother upbringing. Sadly today too many children are victims of unwanted pregnancies and can also suffer. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 2,493 Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 I just heard today that saying "A pig in a poke" "A cat in a sack" and "killing two birds with one stone" should be banned as it is promoting animal cruelty. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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