Bluedell 5,297 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 3 hours ago, BEARGER said: Clearly stated in the SNP EU manifesto SNP Election Manifesto ‘We’ll offer people a choice for future of Scotland as an Independent European Nation’ Electorate overwhelmingly said YES Tory Election manifesto ‘Say NO to Referendum’ Electorate overwhelmingly said NO TO THE TORIES SNP WON Let all those voted in at the EU election vote for it then. Perhaps they should propose it in the European parliament. ? The results of the EU election have got nothing to do with the Scottish premier UK parliaments. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 1,829 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Bluedell said: Let all those voted in at the EU election vote for it then. Perhaps they should propose it in the European parliament. ? The results of the EU election have got nothing to do with the Scottish premier UK parliaments. You’re missing the point, Ruth Davidson and the Tories campaigned on no 2nd referendum and failed miserably. Could not even win in her own constituency. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barca72 440 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 26 minutes ago, BEARGER said: You’re missing the point, Ruth Davidson and the Tories campaigned on no 2nd referendum and failed miserably. Could not even win in her own constituency. She was told 'NO', 5 years ago. She must be misreading a population who were completely apathetic about the EU elections to think this is a vote of confidence for a new Indy. We've seen this before in Quebec and haven't heard from the separatists since. How did the Quebec referendum of 1995 differ from that of 1980? In 1976, with the election to power of the Parti Québécois in the province, Quebec set in motion a process for an independence referendum. This first referendum, held in 1980, failed by a relatively wide margin. After generally unsuccessful attempts to amend the constitution, a second referendum was arranged for 1995. Jul 25, 2013. Does Quebec still want to separate from Canada? Most Quebecers don't want to revisit the question of independence any time soon, a new poll suggests. ... In addition, 64 per cent of francophone Quebecers surveyed agreed with the statement that "issue of Quebec sovereignty is settled, and Quebec will remain in Canada." Oct 18, 2018 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEARGER 1,829 Posted May 29, 2019 Share Posted May 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, barca72 said: She was told 'NO', 5 years ago. She must be misreading a population who were completely apathetic about the EU elections to think this is a vote of confidence for a new Indy. We've seen this before in Quebec and haven't heard from the separatists since. How did the Quebec referendum of 1995 differ from that of 1980? In 1976, with the election to power of the Parti Québécois in the province, Quebec set in motion a process for an independence referendum. This first referendum, held in 1980, failed by a relatively wide margin. After generally unsuccessful attempts to amend the constitution, a second referendum was arranged for 1995. Jul 25, 2013. Does Quebec still want to separate from Canada? Most Quebecers don't want to revisit the question of independence any time soon, a new poll suggests. ... In addition, 64 per cent of francophone Quebecers surveyed agreed with the statement that "issue of Quebec sovereignty is settled, and Quebec will remain in Canada." Oct 18, 2018 You guys are excellent at changing the story, let me state again it was Ruth Davidson who fought the EU elections with Indyref2 as the main topic. Quebec has no significance in this, ill leave it to the people who live there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,344 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 Only SNP voters considered the prospect of Indyref2 last Thursday. For the rest of us, other matters were more prominent. The Bannockburn timewarp doesn't consume us all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,297 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 9 hours ago, BEARGER said: You’re missing the point, Ruth Davidson and the Tories campaigned on no 2nd referendum and failed miserably. Could not even win in her own constituency. FFS. The elections were to elect people to the European elections, not what Sturgeon or Davidson want it to be. You seem not to understand what the elections were for. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedell 5,297 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 8 hours ago, BEARGER said: You guys are excellent at changing the story, Changing the story is all you do on here. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Bluedell said: FFS. The elections were to elect people to the European elections, not what Sturgeon or Davidson want it to be. You seem not to understand what the elections were for. Apparently Gonzo has the objective inside track on what the elections were actually for Edited May 30, 2019 by buster. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 1,871 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 All parties spin the outcome of elections to suit their needs. But there is no doubt that many saw this as a means of expressing their view on Brexit, and who can blame them - its been a total guddle. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster. 4,808 Posted May 30, 2019 Share Posted May 30, 2019 1 minute ago, stewarty said: All parties spin the outcome of elections to suit their needs. But there is no doubt that many saw this as a means of expressing their view on Brexit, and who can blame them - its been a total guddle. Agreed A general protest/disgust vote at how the government and Westminster in general have gone about it. Including those who want to leave and those who are just sick, tired and bored of the whole thing. Less so but not forgetting an ongoing protest against a political system that isn't working in the interests of large swathes of society / long term unresolved issues. What will be interesting is the next General Election. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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