stewarty 1,871 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 A good piece here from George Dobell on why England are not as good as they think they are https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27571263/england-not-good-think-are 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,687 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, Scott7 said: Is there anyone of talent outwith the squad? Anyone asking if there is anyone of talent in the squad will be reported. There's a lot more involved than talent or lack of it. Ask yourself how Northern Ireland is able to punch above its weight while Scotland is permanently mired in failure. It's not just talent. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 1,871 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 (edited) Are you talking about football or Cricket now Bill? Edited September 10, 2019 by stewarty 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,687 Posted September 10, 2019 Share Posted September 10, 2019 3 hours ago, stewarty said: Are you talking about football or Cricket now Bill? Oh bugger ?? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,188 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 Roy and Overton dropped; replaced by Curran and Woakes. Didn't think Overton did too much wrong. Roy was struggling to adapt. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rousseau 9,188 Posted September 11, 2019 Author Share Posted September 11, 2019 Stokes to play as "specialist batsman", due to a shoulder injury. Do they have to be designated? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 1,871 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, Rousseau said: Stokes to play as "specialist batsman", due to a shoulder injury. Do they have to be designated? No. They could play 11 bowlers if they wanted, but they would struggle when it came to batting and one of them would need to keep wicket. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,009 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Rousseau said: Stokes to play as "specialist batsman", due to a shoulder injury. Do they have to be designated? Stokes is an all-rounder, he can bat and he can bowl though I think his batting is better than his bowling. It just means, that on this occasion, he has been selected for his batting prowess being unable to bowl. Trevor Bailey’s definition of all-rounder is a player who can be selected for his bowling alone or for his batting alone. The fact the player can do both is a bonus. He knew, of course, that he himself fitted the definition. So far as I know, the only Englishman to open both the innings and the bowling in a Test Match though some geezers in the late 1800s/early 1900s might have done it. England have been lucky with Bailey, d’Oliviera, Greig the South African, Botham and Flintoff and now Stokes. The absolute greatest is Sir Garfield Sobers, Barbados and WI. Batsman, slip catcher, team captain and purveyor of two different types of bowling. I don’t know if he kept wicket. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,687 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, Scott7 said: Stokes is an all-rounder, he can bat and he can bowl though I think his batting is better than his bowling. It just means, that on this occasion, he has been selected for his batting prowess being unable to bowl. Trevor Bailey’s definition of all-rounder is a player who can be selected for his bowling alone or for his batting alone. The fact the player can do both is a bonus. He knew, of course, that he himself fitted the definition. So far as I know, the only Englishman to open both the innings and the bowling in a Test Match though some geezers in the late 1800s/early 1900s might have done it. England have been lucky with Bailey, d’Oliviera, Greig the South African, Botham and Flintoff and now Stokes. The absolute greatest is Sir Garfield Sobers, Barbados and WI. Batsman, slip catcher, team captain and purveyor of two different types of bowling. I don’t know if he kept wicket. Not while bowling 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7 5,009 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bill said: Not while bowling O ye of little faith. No problem for Sobers. A bit of slow left arm, hare down the wicket, nip behind the batsman, collect the ball and whip the bails off. Possibly sell life insurance to the short-legs on his way down. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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