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1 hour ago, Gonzo79 said:

I hope Sturgeon's use of this situation to increase her already bloated nanny stateism comes back to haunt the SNP.

 

But the unquestioning compliance amongst their voters suggest it's a forlorn hope.

But a fair few of her voters are our people, how have they managed to create this zombie like adherence to whatever comes out of her mouth or the SNP HQ. With all the failures in healthcare, education, jobs and now care homes, why are more ordinary folk not challenging and questioning? We will see come May. 

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10 hours ago, compo said:

Now we have Baroness Lawrence bumping her gums that black ethnic and Asian people were over exposed to the virus and face barriers to healthcare ah well I thi think she's just talking a load of tripe .

How is this woman qualified to speak about anything? 

Her conclusions,  however they were compiled are totally expected,  in fact I could have written the script for her and saved her some valuable time.

 

Of course the real travesty is that nobody, with any influence or public standing will have courage to challenge any aspect of this.

 

 

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Government adviser, Dr Raghib Ali and Equalities Minister Kemi Badenoch have already published reports/statements which dismiss some of what's in Baroness Lawrence's statement. 

 

Maybe Covid-19 should be sent for 'unconscious bias' training?

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54696873

 

So this means that the covid virus vaccine (if one is produced) may not give us permanent immunity. Yet another example of how this virus is different to others we have faced.

 

Anecdotally I spoke to someone yesterday who had a friend caring for husband in poor health. He had been out of the house for 2 years. Yet he tested positive for Covid and she - who has been going here, there and everywhere- tested negative!

 

Suggests to me that the testing system is totally flawed.

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31 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54696873

 

So this means that the covid virus vaccine (if one is produced) may not give us permanent immunity. Yet another example of how this virus is different to others we have faced.

 

Anecdotally I spoke to someone yesterday who had a friend caring for husband in poor health. He had been out of the house for 2 years. Yet he tested positive for Covid and she - who has been going here, there and everywhere- tested negative!

 

Suggests to me that the testing system is totally flawed.

Not sure if there has ever been a vaccine for a respiratory virus that protects permanently, the flu jab changes constantly as they do not use the same constituent parts each year, just like pneumonia and previous strains of bird flu which still have outbreaks across Asia. 

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5 minutes ago, ChelseaBoy said:

Not sure if there has ever been a vaccine for a respiratory virus that protects permanently, the flu jab changes constantly as they do not use the same constituent parts each year, just like pneumonia and previous strains of bird flu which still have outbreaks across Asia. 

Yeh, but it kind of militates against herd immunity if millions have to keep getting re-injections every six months or so or even less. Researcher was on radio this morning saying that immunity dies pretty quickly.

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51 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said:

if millions have to keep getting re-injections every six months or so or even less

Why so often?

 

The economic and other health problems will soon dwarf the problems caused by Covid.

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1 hour ago, alexscottislegend said:

Researcher was on radio this morning saying that immunity dies pretty quickly.

Then the "researcher" maybe should speak to someone who understands how immunity works because that's a conclusion that simply can't be drawn from the fact that antibody count diminishes. Antibody count or the change in that count over time is not a direct measure of immune system response to future infection. There's no shortage of shite written about Covid and no shortage of numpties willing to spread it.

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2 hours ago, alexscottislegend said:

Yeh, but it kind of militates against herd immunity if millions have to keep getting re-injections every six months or so or even less. Researcher was on radio this morning saying that immunity dies pretty quickly.

Yes but they also said among those who did not show symptoms and generally those that didnt have a bad experience they remain longer. 

 

We are only hearing of very few cases of re-infection from the 45m people who have officially had it and you can probably double, triple or more that number .  

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