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23 hours ago, MacK1950 said:

What will become of the famous statue in Brussels of the wee boy weeing or the naked one in Copenhagen as a result of all these self-righteous people.

I have a photo I took of the one in Brussels so am waiting for a knock on the door.??

After Lincoln, Gandhi, Jefferson, Churchill, et al, anyone is fair game. 

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On 25/06/2020 at 15:07, alexscottislegend said:

Maybe a tad off-topic but has anyone on here heard of a sculptor called Eric Gill? There is a statue made by him on public display showing a naked child in a dubious position with an adult behind. Gill was known to have committed incest with his half-sisters, known to be a paedophile and there are even allegations of bestiality with his dog.

 

Where is this statue? Oh yes, right above the entrance to the BBC in London.

 

Sure we can all agree that that is one statue that should come down.

That is a statue BY Gill, and not a statue OF Gill, and that introduces  a different debate from that surrounding the downing of scarred, or indeed, unscarred, old slavers.

(Frankly, I don't understand how anyone would wish to celebrate slavery, in whatever form.)

 

As the biography by Fiona McCarthy makes clear, Gill was completely mental, and, according to his diaries, did have sex with his children, and with his dog.

 

 

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The statue of Colston and others similar to it are not celebrating slavery.  Colston used his wealth to build schools and for other philanthropic endeavours in his hometown, hence the erection of the statue(s).

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

The statue of Colston and others similar to it are not celebrating slavery.  Colston used his wealth to build schools and for other philanthropic endeavours in his hometown, hence the erection of the statue(s).

 

 

So he was a good slaver? 

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It's time to defund the BBC.

 

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/07/01/its-time-to-defund-the-bbc/

 

I've heard as many as 3m over 75s are ignoring the repeated postal requests by TV Licencing and are willing to clog up the courts if necessary (though if you don't let them in your property they can do nowt) 

 

https://www.defundbbc.uk/

 

Pay for it if you want it, but why fund an organisation that espouses the views of a minority of people? 

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