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4 hours ago, the gunslinger said:

Scotland will be tory inside 20 years if independent. At a certain point you run out of cash and they are needed. 

Problem is that the seps think Scotland is mega rich in resources. It isn’t. 

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just a thought have they outlined their plan for a Scottish economy simple things first  like pensions growth taxation the Scottish NHS remembering that they wont be getting their annual bailout by way of the Balfour formula. 

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5 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

The SNP plans for an independent EU statelet were set out in The White Paper.

 

Didn't you read it?  

Yes read it along with all the other nonsense in it.

 

oil price $113 per barrel, currency union with sterling & Salmond gets seat on BoE board, automatic EU  membership despite EC president stating this wasn’t possible, etc, etc

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12 hours ago, RANGERRAB said:

Problem is that the seps think Scotland is mega rich in resources. It isn’t. 

There was a report the other day that in 2020, that renewable energy generated the equivalent of 97% of our energy demand.  Its also estimated that Scotland has 25% of Europe's capacity for wind power, and 10% for tidal wave power.  I'm not sure how much of that we currently tap into, but there's no doubt in my mind that we have significant energy resources.  With nuclear decommissioning at Hunterston/ Torness coming in the next couple of decades, Scotland and the UK will need those resources, and potentially there is scope to generate revenue by selling excess power onto the continent.   Thats not to say that we don't have a long way to go before we can heat our homes fully from renewable sources. but it does indicate the scope for change.

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37 minutes ago, stewarty said:

There was a report the other day that in 2020, that renewable energy generated the equivalent of 97% of our energy demand.  Its also estimated that Scotland has 25% of Europe's capacity for wind power, and 10% for tidal wave power.  I'm not sure how much of that we currently tap into, but there's no doubt in my mind that we have significant energy resources.  With nuclear decommissioning at Hunterston/ Torness coming in the next couple of decades, Scotland and the UK will need those resources, and potentially there is scope to generate revenue by selling excess power onto the continent.   Thats not to say that we don't have a long way to go before we can heat our homes fully from renewable sources. but it does indicate the scope for change.

I've never bought into this energy argument. On the basis of energy surplus, somewhere like Mali or Chad should be the most energy-rich country on the planet. There's a lot more to "resources" than cauld wind. How about resources like honesty in public office, educational attainment, effective political leadership, a fair justice system, a long term economic strategy, innovation, etc?

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44 minutes ago, Bill said:

I've never bought into this energy argument. On the basis of energy surplus, somewhere like Mali or Chad should be the most energy-rich country on the planet. There's a lot more to "resources" than cauld wind. How about resources like honesty in public office, educational attainment, effective political leadership, a fair justice system, a long term economic strategy, innovation, etc?

You digress from the point, but if thats the barometer then we're all f**ked because never has there been a time where those "resources"/qualities/ethics have been so routinely ignored/ dismissed in modern politics.

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7 hours ago, stewarty said:

You digress from the point, but if thats the barometer then we're all f**ked because never has there been a time where those "resources"/qualities/ethics have been so routinely ignored/ dismissed in modern politics.

It's certainly one barometer. But to digress less, the energy "resources" of Scotland are largely irrelevant unless we can harness them and use them productively. Having wind or tides in Scotland is just a weather report unless it can be converted it into wealth - otherwise it's like having oil under the sand except wind and tides can't be loaded into a tanker and sold to the world. Domestically, we simply don't have the economic activity to exploit latent renewable energy resources and convert them into meaningful wealth, so the only option is to sell the raw material to the folks next door so they can use it. It's become such a cliché to talk about Scotland's vast resources but the truth is we're still all dressed up without a party to go to. If Holyrood had spent the last 20 years creating an energy requirement that we could supply, instead of chasing energy we can't use, then there might be some point to it.

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