European Super League | All six PL teams withdraw from ESL

[Devil's advocaat 1,275]

49 minutes ago, ChelseaBoy said:

prides itself on its anti-Semitism

Really?

 

Aye, anyway, they've all completely misjudged this one, massive own goal.

[Bill 13,717]

22 minutes ago, craig said:

It may be an American proposal, but that wasnt what was being suggested - what was being suggested was "mainly American owners" which it clearly isnt

Now don’t go all audit accountant on me ?. 

[Biblio 123]

1 hour ago, craig said:

lol. Salford won promotion ON the pitch, where it is supposed to be won.  They did it the traditional way.  They also can still be relegated from such.

 

This new proposal prevents 12 clubs from ever being removed from its league structure.

No, they didn't. They won it with money that they did not earn and through buying players who were out of the reach of their rivals. I live in Liverpool and am familiar with the non-league scene, and Salford did not earn promotion in a fair manner. Neville is unhappy because his paymasters Sky are not part of it, if they were then he'd be all in. It''s his hypocrisy and the fact that after benefiting from a money distorted set-up in the past he has only just noticed that money can be a corrupting factor.

[compo 6,079]

Looks like its starting to fall apart 

[ranger_syntax 3,751]

11 minutes ago, Biblio said:

No, they didn't. They won it with money that they did not earn and through buying players who were out of the reach of their rivals. I live in Liverpool and am familiar with the non-league scene, and Salford did not earn promotion in a fair manner. ...

You don't need to earn money to spend it.

 

Somebody might invest money in your business for example.

[Bill 13,717]

Debts ( last listed) 
Inter €630 m
Juve € 901 m
Barca € 1 billion
Real € 901 m
Man Utd £474 m
Atletico € 999 m
Spurs £1.77 billion
Arsenal £200m

[Scott7 5,108]

That’s a lot of face painting. 

[craig 5,195]

1 hour ago, Biblio said:

No, they didn't. They won it with money that they did not earn and through buying players who were out of the reach of their rivals. I live in Liverpool and am familiar with the non-league scene, and Salford did not earn promotion in a fair manner. Neville is unhappy because his paymasters Sky are not part of it, if they were then he'd be all in. It''s his hypocrisy and the fact that after benefiting from a money distorted set-up in the past he has only just noticed that money can be a corrupting factor.

So Salford didnt put 11 players on the pitch every week the same as every other club in the league ?  lol.

 

Absolute nonsense to suggest they didnt earn promotion in a fair manner.  What rules did they break ?  What did they do that wasnt available to all the other teams ?  Every single other team had the capability to go out there and get rich investors - just so happened that Salford was local to the class of 92 and they decided to put their cash into it.  Was nothing unfair about it or, if it was unfair, then you can look at ALL the major leagues in Europe and make the exact same statement.  I guess Rangers won their 9 in a row unfairly too then ?  Because that is what we did, we outspent all the other clubs at the time.

 

You are completely incorrect about Neville too - if you think that Sky wouldnt be part of it then you havent been listening - Sky would undoubtedly have been a part of it.  You do realise it was being funded by a bank, right ?  And that in order to make it successful they need broadcasting partners, and Sky would undoubtedly be right there in the heart of those discussions.  You think Gary Neville NEEDS the money ?  Course he doesnt.  He is unhappy because this Superleague is the very antithesis of what football actually stands for.

 

He hasnt only just noticed that money can be a corrupting factor, thats patent nonsense - he literally recognised it himself when talking about the subject last night.   Gary Neville is many things but a stupid person isnt one of them.

 

Being that you live in Liverpool, you clearly have no love for Gary Neville, and that's fine - but don't let it completely cloud your objectivity. 

[craig 5,195]

30 minutes ago, Bill said:

Debts ( last listed) 
Inter €630 m
Juve € 901 m
Barca € 1 billion
Real € 901 m
Man Utd £474 m
Atletico € 999 m
Spurs £1.77 billion
Arsenal £200m

Barcelona are now over 1.3 billion Euros Bill.  And the rest are likely significantly higher too.

[Bill 13,717]

18 minutes ago, craig said:

Barcelona are now over 1.3 billion Euros Bill.  And the rest are likely significantly higher too.

These clubs clearly run their affairs on the basis of ever-increasing turnover and have hit the buffers under the current league system. This ESL really must be stopped somehow, we’re jeopardising football to bail out profligacy