CV19 'passport' now required to attend games

[Bill 13,717]

It’s inconceivable the current Covid passports will have anything other than a negative effect on the SNP. The decision to delay enforcement has surely been taken for good and entirely selfish reasons. My guess, and it’s only a guess, is that this 2 week “grace period” is an attempt by Sturgeon to transition out of the hole she’s dug herself into. She’s hoping a fortnight from now the infection rates will have fallen to the extent she’ll be able to relax Covid passport requirements to indoor venues only, or like England, to “suspend” them altogether. 

[ranger_syntax 3,751]

2 hours ago, Bill said:

I met one today who wouldn't be convinced that vaccination does not prevent infection. 

 

2 hours ago, Bluedell said:

I'm not denying that they exist, but are rare.

This does not appear to be rare to me.

[gaspard 562]

19 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said:

 

This does not appear to be rare to me.

nope not rare at all, played golf with 4 different guys recently, all retired, all decent guys and capable of reasonable thinking.

All four thought that they would be a lot safer in the company of vaccinated people than non vaccinated, when pressed they were certain that getting double stabbed significantly reduced or eliminated the risks of both contracting and spreading the virus.

[CammyF 6,761]

2 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

I seriously doubt that data could be successfully obtained without serious costs and entry delays involved.

 

It'll be half-arsed spot checks conducted by stewards.

So its a pointless exercise ? what a surprise! 

[CammyF 6,761]

https://www.heraldscotland.com/politics/19611301.nicola-sturgeon-faces-vaccine-passport-judicial-review-legal-action/?ref=fbshr

[JohnMc 2,463]

11 hours ago, gaspard said:

nope not rare at all, played golf with 4 different guys recently, all retired, all decent guys and capable of reasonable thinking.

All four thought that they would be a lot safer in the company of vaccinated people than non vaccinated, when pressed they were certain that getting double stabbed significantly reduced or eliminated the risks of both contracting and spreading the virus.

Just to be clear, are you claiming being double vaccinated doesn't reduce a person's chances of contracting Covid?  

[compo 6,079]

1 hour ago, JohnMc said:

Just to be clear, are you claiming being double vaccinated doesn't reduce a person's chances of contracting Covid?  

Talking with a doctor yesterday and I asked him that and he said double vaccinated people will still get the virus but in most cases it will be less severe 

[Bill 13,717]

1 hour ago, JohnMc said:

Just to be clear, are you claiming being double vaccinated doesn't reduce a person's chances of contracting Covid?  

By “contracting Covid”, do you mean becoming infected with the virus or developing the disease it causes?

[ranger_syntax 3,751]

2 hours ago, compo said:

Talking with a doctor yesterday and I asked him that and he said double vaccinated people will still get the virus but in most cases it will be less severe 

But, but, but ... the vaccine? ... the tweets? ... the man on the idiot box?

[gaspard 562]

10 hours ago, JohnMc said:

Just to be clear, are you claiming being double vaccinated doesn't reduce a person's chances of contracting Covid?  

Yes, it just significantly reduce the chances of becoming seriously ill.

 

The Guardian recently

Fully vaccinated adults can harbour virus levels as high as unvaccinated people if infected with the Delta variant, according to a sweeping analysis of UK data, which supports the idea that hitting the threshold for herd immunity is unlikely.

There is abundant evidence that Covid vaccines in the UK continue to offer significant protection against hospitalisations and death. But this new analysis shows that although being fully vaccinated means the risk of getting infected is lower, once infected by Delta a person can carry similar virus levels as unvaccinated people.

The implications of this on transmission remain unclear, the researchers have cautioned. “We don’t yet know how much transmission can happen from people who get Covid-19 after being vaccinated – for example, they may have high levels of virus for shorter periods of time,” said Sarah Walker, a professor of medical statistics and epidemiology at the University of Oxford.

“But the fact that they can have high levels of virus suggests that people who aren’t yet vaccinated may not be as protected from the Delta variant as we hoped.”

Edited September 29, 2021 by gaspard