Scott7 5,009 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, Uilleam said: The pun has not been the same since we went Metric. Enough. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 1,982 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, gaspard said: It is 100% panic buying initiated by the msm who mistakenly or maliciously reported that the lack of HGV drivers could cause fuel shortages. there is no shortage of drivers HGV drivers do not transport fuel ADR drivers do and there was no shortage of them 2 weeks ago, or a month ago or a year ago. There is no deficiency of fuel supplies nor the logistics to deliver it. So why has Johson granted a relaxation of visa restrictions in order to recruit 5,000 lorry drivers? By the way, I heard the Durch spokesman for euro lorry drivers say on Radio 4 this week that conditions of employment were so unattractive here that he doubted whether any drivers would be tempted to come here temporarily. Edited September 30, 2021 by alexscottislegend 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 1,982 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 14 hours ago, ranger_syntax said: Have people been blaming this on Brexit? Some have. But there's a world of difference between blaming affairs on Brexit and blaming the government for failing to properly plan well in advance for the changes anticipated post-Brexit. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 3,715 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 23 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said: Some have. But there's a world of difference between blaming affairs on Brexit and blaming the government for failing to properly plan well in advance for the changes anticipated post-Brexit. What do you expect them to plan? Any update on the quantities of fuel involved? 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewarty 1,871 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 The stat provided above doesn't give the full picture - it would help if it provided numbers to go along with the percentages to understand what has happened. However, there were ONS stats released a few days ago that estimated that approx 10k EU drivers left the UK following Brexit, but this was approx 20% of the total lost in the period. Regardless, industry experts appear to be universal in their view that the driver shortage is due to a number of factors, but the main ones being Brexit, the pandemic and working conditions. So whilst Brexit is not the sole reason, it has definitely made things worse. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranger_syntax 3,715 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 15 minutes ago, stewarty said: The stat provided above doesn't give the full picture - it would help if it provided numbers to go along with the percentages to understand what has happened. However, there were ONS stats released a few days ago that estimated that approx 10k EU drivers left the UK following Brexit, but this was approx 20% of the total lost in the period. Regardless, industry experts appear to be universal in their view that the driver shortage is due to a number of factors, but the main ones being Brexit, the pandemic and working conditions. So whilst Brexit is not the sole reason, it has definitely made things worse. If you are interested then you could scroll all the way down to the second tweet in his thread. How would one know the proportion of E.U. drivers that left because of Brexit? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo79 13,345 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: How would one know the proportion of E.U. drivers that left because of Brexit? JohnMc told me that Bill Gates, a secret cabal of Jews or Nicola Sturgeon will know. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 1,982 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 46 minutes ago, ranger_syntax said: What do you expect them to plan? Any update on the quantities of fuel involved? 1. Logistics. 2. I'm not a quantity surveyor. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexscottislegend 1,982 Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 37 minutes ago, stewarty said: The stat provided above doesn't give the full picture - it would help if it provided numbers to go along with the percentages to understand what has happened. However, there were ONS stats released a few days ago that estimated that approx 10k EU drivers left the UK following Brexit, but this was approx 20% of the total lost in the period. Regardless, industry experts appear to be universal in their view that the driver shortage is due to a number of factors, but the main ones being Brexit, the pandemic and working conditions. So whilst Brexit is not the sole reason, it has definitely made things worse. We have no alternative but to trust bodies like the ONS but there are some on here who don't believe any official statistics about anything. We can be too cynical sometimes. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill 13,687 Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 1 hour ago, alexscottislegend said: So why has Johson granted a relaxation of visa restrictions in order to recruit 5,000 lorry drivers? Eh, because we need more HGV drivers while we wait for tens of thousands of union-delayed HGV licence applications to be processed by DVLA employees who can't be arsed getting back behind their desks and doing their duty to the country. We all know HGV drivers have not enjoyed the pay and conditions they probably deserve but if things are so much worse here than across the EU then you might want to explain why so many EU drivers chose to work here prior to the Covid shutdowns. 0 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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