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  1. There have been a number of occasions in my time supporting Rangers when everything changed. I remember sitting in a Naafi outside Belfast watching Rangers play Shelbourne in a Euro Qualifier in one of Advocaats first matches, Smith's 9 in a row team had broken up in the summer and I think I recognised about 2 Rangers players that night, it really felt like the end of one era and the beginning of another. Likewise when we played our first matches in Division 3, McCoist, McDowell and Durrant remained familiar faces but a lot of the team were new and the feeling of complete uncertainty that had enveloped the club for months remained. A few years later I was watching Warburton's first competitive match against Hibs, we were following it on an iPad while travelling to a wedding. Once again most of the players were unfamiliar, so was the manager, it was another changing of the guard so to speak, a break with the past and a new era beginning. Throughout all that one man remained constant, a familiar face in the background, a reassuring presence for supporters who are far from the boardroom or the dressing room. Despite his low profile it was clear Jimmy Bell was someone players, coaches and managers gravitated too. You'd see him in the background of Rangers News photoshoots from some sun-drenched preseason training camp. You'd see him coming off the coach on Sky Sports as the camera searched for a big name player, these days you'd see him in the background as the club posted pictures from the training ground or travelling to a match. Despite what so many people think football clubs aren't businesses in the normal sense. The hint is in the word club. Rangers epitomise this as much as any. We've had turbulence in recent years, some amazing highs and terrible lows, yet we remain. A club greater than the sum of its parts. As supporters we celebrate the ephemeral, the transient player who thrills for a few season, the great performance that brightens us for a few months, the trophies we celebrate until the next one starts. But I think that as supporters it's really the long term recognition we cling too. The things that don't change like the marble staircase, the blue jerseys, the St Etienne bike; things we value way above their actual value. Jimmy Bell was one of those. His presence reassured us that everything would be okay, whilst everything on the surface had changed below the surface everything was the same. We've really needed that reassurance at times. I never met Jimmy Bell, I never spoke to him. Yet he was as familiar to me as any player or manager. He played an important role, far more important than managing the kit or driving the coach, he represented us in the club. Today is a sad day in the history of our club.
    11 points
  2. Been having a wee look at the wonderful Bert Kassies site and can see we are up to 34th in the club co-efficients list. No matter the result in Seville we climb to at least 29th for next season once our Progres disaster drops away. As one who was in attendance in Luxembourg on that embarrassing low point in our history, the transformation from there to here is of Hollywood proportions. For anyone wanting a look the link is here https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2022.html
    8 points
  3. I met Jimmy once. It was December 2004, we were in the Netherlands to play AZ Alkmaar in the UEFA Cup. My wife and I traveled to Amsterdam, booked in for 4 days with intent to do our Christmas shopping and, take in the game. Alkmaar is an old cheese town and most pretty. I journeyed through to Alkmaar the day before the game, hoping to pick up a pair of tickets, no joy at either Club shop or ticket office. The wife suggested I concentrate on securing a brief for myself. The game day, I took the train from Amsterdam central and began asking everyone for a spare? Two and a half hours before kick-off, I was outside the ground continuing to plead? A large mini-bus pitched up and Jimmy Bell jumped out. He went to the back and began to unload half-a-dozen hampers. There was a barbed wire adorned gate between jimmy/kit and the allocated changing room. He was handed a set of keys by a police officer who then joined three colleagues at the gate. I do not wear colours to the game, in fact I was wearing a Barbour jacket. I moved forward and grabbed an end of a hamper. Jimmy locked the bus and seamlessly returned to pick up the other hamper end. We went through the gate, repeating the process another several times. Whilst putting the hampers into the changing room he asked, "do you have a ticket"? He took fifteen minutes to empty the cases then took me to a small adjoined Port-a-Kabin, we put the empties inside and instructed me to sit on the floor and, he would return to let me out in a couple of hours. I offered a thanks. I saw us lose 1-0. I suspect Jimmy helped out a fair number of Bears over the decades?
    8 points
  4. I though it was worse. Faster both feet off the ground with more force. got none of the ball and was late. Both were reds or both weren't. I would say both were.
    8 points
  5. Spoken like someone who hasn't been near a Rangers match.
    7 points
  6. I'll tell you what, it's a disgrace we've lost the league to that lot. They're a shit football team and their fans are vermin. Poor show on the domestic front that needs fixed pronto.
    7 points
  7. This morning I am reliably informed a fourth question has been sent by letter to Gerry Braiden. A chap who knows his marine engineering, Dan MacPhail kens what should go roon'n'roon as opposed to up'n'doon, is willing to serve as Engineering Officer on the MV Glen Sannox. Dan has asked Gerry if the MV Glen Sannox which was launched over two years past by the First Minister, is available to sail to Algeciras, southern Spain? Dan sees no major problems in the state of the art technology currently aboard the vessel, painted on windows and cardboard funnels are assets in these days of biodiversity. Dan has a few mates, a Deep Water Skipper with decades of experience in Clyde estuary trade, a First Mate named, Dougie and, a melodeon playing Deckie, Sunny Jim. The cargo is a thousand Rangers supporters intent upon attending the Europa League Cup final in Seville. The appeal includes a gesture of goodwill, both the First Minister and Glasgow City Convenor are invited with spouses to sail on the vessel's maiden voyage. Peter Murrell and Gordon Archer are Happy Hibees and most creative. Peter ring fenced £620,000 of raised funds whereas, Gordon utilised technical difficulties to withdraw two six figure sums from a soon to be bankrupt company where he was a Director. These sums could prove crucial in any negotiations with Barbary Pirates. Now, I hear you say there are outfitting problems on the Glen Sannox ie no seating. Dan has asked Gerry if GCC can spare any of the newly provided and paid for benches from George Square? Further, Susan Aitken has been asked for an assurance that she will NOT swim alongside the vessel, as this will be deemed a hazard to navigation. Any Gersnetters wishing to participate in this buckling your swash adventure, Phil McFournames is taking even more names as of Noon tomorrow.
    7 points
  8. Gio has easily earned a shot at next season with his own players and a full season to work with them.
    7 points
  9. Jimmy Bell wasn't a Rangers player. He didn't score important goals or save penalties. Neither did he invest millions or lead the club in the business world. But, through a fantastic personality and in his daily dealings with hundreds of players of all creeds and colours he dies a legend. RIP.
    7 points
  10. Sky's production of old firm games is similar to BT Sport. At the Cup semi-final at Hampden, we saw Rod Stewart in the crowd, Martin Compston in the South Stand, Leigh Griffiths taking his seat in the Sellik end, ............ etc; all before kick-off. I think we would all have enjoyed seeing the aforementioned after Rangers notched their second goal? Yesterday, it's John Terry adorned in a green'n'grey scarf before kick-off. I checked, John Terry's old man is a convicted drugs dealer and, his maw is a convicted shoplifter. Of course John Terry supports ra Sellik, he is very much one of their own.
    7 points
  11. One more great heave and we just might get through this latest challenge but I hope no one will be critical or too disappointed if we don't. Considering the pond we swim in, we are already punching miles above our weight. This has been an astonishing EL campaign and these players deserve huge thanks for putting Rangers firmly back on the European map. With luck and judicious recruitment this summer, I think there are many reasons for optimism.
    7 points
  12. That's more like it. No moaning about what might have been. No scapegoats. Lets hope Hearts get a good doing.
    6 points
  13. A 5th Question, then: "Why don't you go home?"
    6 points
  14. Just received my ticket. Buzzing now! 🥳🇪🇦
    6 points
  15. FWIW, I don't think there's over-confidence amongst the fans - just more confidence than when we played Zenit which is a good thing. There's a big difference between playing in Germany or at Ibrox or in Seville in 30degC temps but we have a good chance and that's as much as we can ask. If the players approach the game in the same way they have others recently - especially Leipzig - then Frankfurt won't have it all their own way.
    6 points
  16. Plus Ca Change. Thursday evening saw Rangers defeat RB Leipzig 3-1 at Ibrox, securing a Europa League final place 3-2 on aggregate. BBC Scotland maintained it's low profile, humdrum approach. Big Dick sat in a PQ studio with Richard Foster and Mark Hateley, all watching a monitor streaming the BT Sport live action from the Stadium. Seriously, a Euro semi-final involving a Scots club occurring less than half a mile from the studios and PQ's output is murmurings? Friday morning and lunch time, BBC Scotland know they need a bigger reaction. They do not return to the Dandy Duo of Tyrone Smith and Derek Rae who warned on drawing Leipzig, "Rangers supporters need to think again". You would think the Editor of the Bundesliga Newsletter, Stefan Bionkowski would be the obvious choice. Remember, when Stefan was a PQ staffer - he demanded the date of the last UK General Election be moved because his beloved Sellik were due to face Cluj in Romania that evening; he argued traveling 15,000 Sellik support not voting SNP would corrupt the result. In the real world, just over 600 green'n'grey happy hoopsters traveled to the Carpathians. Stefan dismissed Rangers chances of defeating Leipzig, surely this was PQ's most comfortable option? No, no and, thrice no. PQ went with Pat Nevin. The former Sellik Bhoys Club star threw out a few adjectives congratulating Rangers and concluded, "I hope the Rangers supporters behave better in Seville than they did in Manchester". The Chief Sports Correspondent, Chris McLaughlin said and penned nothing. The Chief Football writer, Tom English had a piece on BBC Scotland's website and it was most praise worthy, he aspired to the levels of excitement felt by all Rangers supporters. Well done Tom. Saturday was more comfortable, Sellik were kicking off at Noon and they could secure the title. Concurrently, 'Off the Ball' was broadcasting on the alternate frequency and, RAB Cosgrove stuck it on us, "Rangers qualifying for the Europa League final was not good for Scottish football". Apparently, the monies accrued will only take us and the separated brethren further away from the other Scots clubs and ensure the continued duopoly of Scottish football. As usual, despite wanting to hear from Rangers supporters, RAB's bias went unchallenged, as usual. Fair play, they had Barca Bear, Dave Smith on the show to promote his book, 'the Road to Barcelona'. Dave told a couple of good stories, Tam Cowan revealed an ignorance of matters 1972 when asking, "why was the attendance only 25,000 for the final"? I was waiting on RAB readdressing his Daily Record column of 20 years past, when he dismissed the victory because UEFA had discontinued the Cup and claimed Rangers supporters ransacked Barca Cathedral. Yep, RAB defies the official history of the Basilica de la Sagrada Familia - he wants, needs the Cathedral to have been RANSACKED. It was not, I know I visited the church on the day of the final with many other Rangers supporters, it was part of the tour. Sunday saw another three from the PQ rota crowd into that studio to view that monitor and, offer murmurings during Dundee United's visit to Ibrox. Given BBC Scotland's Herculean efforts in Seville 2003, the double decker bus parked outside the ground, Jackie Bird hosting, the band playing, ............... etc. What representation can we expect Seville 2022? You pays your money, you receive a much lesser service.
    6 points
  17. Graham Fyfe - an Obituary. Looking over the team lines for 1971-72 season, Graham Fyfe is a fairly regular starter. He signed for Rangers in 1969, stayed seven years making 87 starts and, scoring 31 goals. It could be argued Graham sat on the bench for as many games? In the days of a maximum of one, then two allowed substitutions, Graham became Rangers first super-Sub'. Like David Fairclough at Liverpool, often he would come on late in a game and notch the important goal. He was a most versatile player, having appeared right across both Rangers front line and midfield. Skilful and talented, Graham had a keen eye for a pass. If no movement tempted him, he was most capable in creating more space by dribbling past two or three opposition players. A clever ball player and fairly regular scorer, older Gersnetters would agree, he was a good old fashioned inside forward. The European game suited Fyfe best, starting two of the nine game run to winning the European Cup Winners Cup in 1972. He was a named Substitute for half-a-dozen others, including being unused in the final. He made an appearance in the first ever European Super Cup final against Ajax. Fyfe was named Player of the Tournament in the Barcelona hosted Juan Gamper tourney in August'74. rangers defeated Athletico Bilbao 1-0 before succumbing 1-4 to Barca' in the final. Graham scored a wonder goal that day and local Journalists compared his talents to the opposition's Johan Cruyff. The Rangers support quickly adopted his new moniker in song, 'Johan Fyfe'. Born in Motherwell in August'51, Graham passed earlier this week aged 70 years. I have a personal favourite memory, an away League game against Celtic in September'74. We had up front injuries and Jock Wallace went with Quinton Young and Graham Fyfe as front two pairing. Despite Celtic taking a first half and half-time lead(1-0 Dalglish), we were the better, more fluid team. Young would go beyond, Fyfe drooped deeper to take the ball before reverse passing on to hard running pair DJ and Ian McDougall. In the second half Ted received a reverse pass, stepped into the D and shot off the post and into the net for our equaliser. Just over 15 minutes later, Bomber Jackson bulleted a header from a corner past Dennis Connaghan for the winner. Graham Fyfe was spectacular that day. He left Rangers for Hibs in the summer of 1976, he accompanied Ally Scott in a double swop for Iain Munro. A couple of seasons at Dumbarton ensued before spending his last six footballing years in the States at three clubs.
    6 points
  18. I'm not one for highlighting referees but some of the decisions today were beyond baffling. The one in the corner when Halliday took the feet away from Bassey was as clear a foul as you will see.
    5 points
  19. FWIW I genuinely believe we’d have won last night had Morelos been fit.
    5 points
  20. As weird as it sounds but if the final was over two legs, I think we'd have won it! Manchester was a great experience but I think the majority of us knew Zenit were going to beat us. We can say Walter was to conservative in the final, but those were the tactics that got us there. Tonight, after knocking out Dortmund and Leipzig, we thought we had a chance, and we did. I'd say Frankfurt were better team than Leipzig and remember are unbeaten in Europe this season - that is some achievement. Off course players make mistakes, managers select the "wrong players" and wrong tactics, that's football. It's hard to accept domestically but at this level, we are punching way above our weight. The way European Football is structured and financed, Rangers aren't meant to be anywhere near the final. Time to dust ourselves down and get behind the team on Saturday - it's gonna be a tough and after tonight, but we need to go again. Thanks for the memories in this season's EL I for one will certainly cherish them.
    5 points
  21. Everyone is rightly distraught tonight but you're absolutely right- this isn't the time for mudslinging. Perhaps the biggest disappointment is to see fans already hurling criticism at individual players or the manager. This has been the most amazing roller coaster ride in Europe and everyone contributed to get us to Seville. I wish we were bringing home the trophy and booking our place in the CL ..... but it is what it is and slagging off players a few days before another cup final seems fairly counter productive.
    5 points
  22. From today's Sunday Times, a short piece on GvB. Speak softly, but carry a big stick, as somebody (no, not Dick Advocaat), once said From the Moluccas islands to Ibrox: inside the mind and motivations of Rangers manager Giovanni van Bronckhorst Marcel van der Kraan charts Van Bronckhorst’s rise to Ibrox from the remote Moluccas islands via a plethora of Dutch masters Marcel van der Kraan Sunday May 15 2022, 12.01am, The Sunday Times Football To properly understand Giovanni van Bronckhorst the man and the manager, you must first understand his upbringing and education, and particularly the Moluccan heritage he is so proud of. The Moluccas are an archipelago of islands to the east of Indonesia. With the declaration of a single republic of Indonesia in 1950 to replace the federal state, they attempted to secede. Supported by the Moluccan members of the Netherlands’ special troops, it was defeated by the Indonesian army and the troops were transferred back to the Netherlands along with some refugees of the conflict. Van Bronckhorst, a real family man who is married to his childhood sweetheart Marieke and father of sons Jake and Joshua, has always been a proud Moluccan and has never described himself as Indonesian. Through the stories of his grandma, who died in 2017, the year he won his first league title as a manager, he knows how much the people of the Moluccas have suffered. He is a proud ambassador for them, a minority in the Netherlands, where mum Fransien Sapulette and dad Victor van Bronckhorst raised him in Rotterdam. He has a charity foundation and regularly returns to visit. Despite the political tensions between Indonesia and the Moluccan Islands and people, he has reached out to the capital Jakarta to support his family’s project to educate disadvantaged children there. As a boy, Van Bronckhorst’s mum took him to a small amateur club, LMO, which stands for Linker Maas Oever (Left Bank of the river Maas, which runs through Rotterdam). Everyone from Rotterdam knows that’s the poorer part of the town, but it’s also an area where kids play football on the streets, producing wonderful footballers over the years. It’s also where the famous De Kuip stadium and Feyenoord’s academy is situated, and their scouts soon discovered young Giovanni, inviting him to join the club, which had just started coaching for under-eights. That initiative came from Wim Jansen. Jansen had just retired as a player, most of his career spent playing and training with Johan Cruyff, who also became one of his best friends. Together, they helped Holland to the 1974 World Cup final, giving the world “Total Football”, a super-offensive style played with two wingers, a striker and a No 10, so eight-year-old Giovanni was educated from the youngest possible age in the same style he would later enjoy at Arsenal, Barcelona and with the Dutch national team. Significantly, this quiet and calm Moluccan boy blossomed under managers who carried the same calmness and had excellent man-management skills; Jansen at Feyenoord, Arsène Wenger at Arsenal, Frank Rijkaard at Barcelona. The fiery Dick Advocaat at Rangers was the exception, but then again, it was good, Van Bronckhorst admitted, that he also saw that style of management. He learnt organisational skills from Advocaat and was happy when the former Rangers manager came to his rescue when he went through a bad spell in his first year as Feyenoord manager. Van Bronckhorst learnt one thing in particular from his former manager — “Be tough when you need to be tough” — and used Advocaat’s wise words to win Feyenoord’s first league title for 18 years, making the former academy kid (“he’s one of our own”, sang the Kop at De Kuip) even more popular than he was before. Van Bronckhorst was ruthless when it was required that season. The most popular player was Dirk Kuyt, who had come back from Liverpool, but Van Bronckhorst reckoned Kuyt could not deliver what he wanted and put him on the bench for weeks. That led to an explosive situation, where Kuyt did not hide his frustration and disappointment in the media. Van Bronckhorst stayed cool as ice, knew he had fired Kuyt up and put him back in the side for the final game, which Feyenoord had to win. The outcome? Kuyt scored a hat-trick and the two of them celebrated the title as if nothing had happened. Van Bronckhorst won five trophies in four seasons at Feyenoord and was given a new nickname: Prijzenpakker (trophy grabber). Again, he had proved everyone wrong. In his first season, when Advocaat had to help out, there were doubters. Van Bronckhorst would never be a manager with enough authority, according to the majority of the media. Exactly the same as the critics who said he would never make it in the national team, yet, in 2010 he captained Holland against Spain in the World Cup final in South Africa and played his 106th game for his country. Van Bronckhorst never wanted to be the noisy one, yet gradually climbed to the highest level in the world. Lionel Messi named him in his team of the best players he has played with as left back. Ronaldinho said he saved so much energy for attacking at Barcelona because he had a man behind him he could always rely on. It sums up the character of the Dutchman. Reliable and delivering quality, with a football brain that’s ticking over day and night, fed by some famous coaches. One of them adjusted something in Van Bronckhorst’s style, which maybe gives him that little edge to steer a club like Rangers to a European trophy. Van Bronckhorst was assistant manager at Feyenoord to Ronald Koeman, the man taught by the super-attacking Cruyff and asked to educate a young Pep Guardiola at Barcelona. Koeman told how Cruyff called him into his room and said: “From now on, you have a new room-mate. His name is Pep and he’s from La Masia, our academy. I want you to take care of him.” Guardiola got the gist, loved every detail of Cruyff’s Dutch “Total Football”, and went to the extreme with it once he became a coach, but Koeman, who won 30 trophies in a glittering career, went one step back when he became a manager. He said he loved attacking football, but felt it was wiser to focus a few per cent more on the defence, particularly when the quality is not always Barcelona, Bayern Munich or Manchester City. Van Bronckhorst watched Koeman every day as his assistant, took it all in, saw how cool and analytical his talks with the media were, and it looks now as if that was time well spent. ON TV WEDNESDAY Eintracht Frankfurt v Rangers BT Sport 1, Kick-off 8pm https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/from-the-moluccas-islands-to-ibrox-inside-the-mind-and-motivations-of-rangers-manager-giovanni-van-bronckhorst-bgkvvwb63
    5 points
  23. The impression I'm getting from most fans is that we have this final in the bag. That actually worries me. I'm sure the squad aren't thinking that, but complacency is a killer. It's going to be an extremely tough game, Frankfurt have had some very decent results on the way to this final. I just hope we aren't underestimating them.
    5 points
  24. Lowrie is good enough to have played far more often this season. He has the flair and creativity we often lacked to turn draws into wins.
    5 points
  25. The second was such a Kamara goal. In a cauldron of ferocious atmosphere, with a European Final on the line, Kamara, so laid back, just passes it into the bottom corner from 20 yards out.
    5 points
  26. An equally nice summary of the Scottish National Party, for which he aspired to be a candidate.
    5 points
  27. "poison and toxicity, cancerous people and mendacious, pervasive forces that you simply don’t need in your life" That's a nice summary of his own media career. 😄
    5 points
  28. Nothing but good things to say about the team after that today. Incredible work-rate despite well down personnel wise and showed fantastic pride to get a draw. Just a pity we couldn't quite get the winner our play deserved.
    5 points
  29. Can't believe players, team and manager getting knocked for that performance. Opened up tonight and we'd have lost 3 or 4 nil, as it is, we were unfortunate to lose and still have a great opportunity to make the final. That'll do for me
    5 points
  30. I have to say, GVB has has had a helluva last 3 games. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
    5 points
  31. I take it posters are joking about wanting Simms? He's an awful footballer - does nothing but put his weight about.
    4 points
  32. Well done mate - a brilliant job of running it and a well deserved victory!
    4 points
  33. I think our GK situation is fine. I'd like to see McLaughlin become #1, with McGregor around as back-up - if he doesn't retire. McCrorie can come in now and again too. I don't think we need to spend money, here. Goldson is leaving, so we need a replacement CB. We've got Souttar coming in. I think Sands might get more games in this position. Balogun should be let go, so we'll need another replacement. Barisic, maybe, should be moved out, but I would not push it. The full-backs are fine, with Zukowski and Devine around. I'd like to see Mayo get a shot. Simpson and Katic should go. I think we need more Lowry-types -- who should be a starter, or very close to it next season -- and wingers. We have the engine room, with Jack, Lundstram, Aribo, Arfield (I would have released him, but he's signed for another year) and Kamara. McCann could get games. I'd maybe let Davis go, to free up wages. We need a couple of Right-wingers, IMO. Kent and Sakala on the left, is fine; Wright is decent as a squad player. Hagi is still to return. We have a duty of care over Ofoborh because it's a heart issue, so he'll stick around. If he gets the all-clear, then he'll get a shot. Otherwise, he'll run down his contract. Up front, we need a replacement/competition for Morelos; Probably a couple, since Itten looks surplus to requirements. For me, everyone is for sale. If someone gets sold, we'll need a replacement. In summary, we need a couple of CBs, a couple of Right-wingers/#10s, and a couple of strikers - plus any replacements for departures.
    4 points
  34. 4 points
  35. At some point we are going to have to give some of these young players , our own youth , a chance . We need to stop bringing in EPL youngsters on loan and paying fees . Our youngsters were all excellent today .
    4 points
  36. Would anyone else like to keep Diallo for next season? He's clearly talented, but he's only now started to meet the demands of our games. Saying that, we have played poor teams recently.
    4 points
  37. Now ready for all first picks to be rested against Hearts. This includes Tavernier and Goldson.
    4 points
  38. Well that is it sorted then, the white Gallant Pioneers top it is!
    4 points
  39. Sadly we won't be there as we didn't get tickets. To be honest, sitting about in pubs in the searing heat is not for me these days. Had we got tickets I would have been there in a flash. My nephew, who goes with us to Ibrox, fortunately got one and we are absolutely delighted for him and all of you folks on here who did get tickets. I hope you have the time of your lives.
    4 points
  40. i would swap the league any season for a shot at winning a european final. happened twice in my lifetime but we have won dozens of leagues.
    4 points
  41. Huge achievement in Europe, undoubtedly one of the best so far. However, we haven't won anything yet so I prefer to not talk about how good this team is until we can reflect back on things. It will go down as a season of missed opportunity if we win nothing, and decent season if we win the Scottish cup and one of our best ever seasons if we win both cups. So a lot riding on two games 🤞😬
    4 points
  42. Spot the difference and you can almost hear the 1st photo
    4 points
  43. we were way way fitter in the second half. When it goes back to 3 subs celtc are screwed. 1 game a week and only their keeper looks fit to last 90 mins.
    4 points
  44. Not been this nervous of a semi since I watched Brokeback Mountain.....😜
    4 points
  45. Being reported the Twitter board have accepted Elon Musk's offer. Interesting times ahead, expect the wokerati and biology deniers to go apeshit.
    4 points
  46. Wish the fans would bin all this Bobby Sands pish. It's embarrassing.
    4 points
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