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Rangers often fills our lives with joy but can also bring disappointment. Those who lead our club understand that can yield criticism but that should be constructive and not personal. We shouldn't forget they love the club as much as you or I. All the best to John and his family.

It still depresses me that so many still yearn for a sugar daddy to make everything good again. I do wonder just how many in our support would accept literally anyone in control of the club if it guaranteed we'd win the league and beat Celtic. It's always worth casting your mind back and remembering why you became a Rangers supporter. Was it simply because you expected us to win the league every season? Most seasons? I started 'supporting' Rangers at primary school, mainly because most of my pals, my dad and my big cousins did. It was a north Glasgow primary in the late 1970s, you'd the choice of Rangers or Partick Thistle, no other clubs were available. But the relationship was cemented in the 1980s, when I was old enough to go to games. Here's the thing, in the first half of the 1980s there wasn't a lot of winning going on. We weren't just behind Celtic, we were behind Aberdeen, Dundee Utd and even Hearts for a while. Don't get me wrong there were some good times, a couple of League Cups, a Tennents Sixes too (well it excited me at the time!), but mainly it was a struggle on the pitch. But then going to the football isn't just about the football, is it? It was meeting up with your mates, a common shared interest. It was the ritual of going to the game, lucky omens, lucky clothing, buses or trains, the programme, the pie, I was too young to drink but clearly that was important to many guys too. Then the game itself, the singing, the noise, the smell, the chance to share every emotion, publicly. Football and gigs were probably the only places you could be emotional without feeling stupid or being ridiculed. Winning was always great, a bit of magic from a player a bonus, and a defeat met with anger. Our club is going through the most turbulent period in it's long history since the late 1800s. We're not out of it yet, we're hopefully towards the end, but who actually knows. Football is a very different sport to the one I started watching, but the essence of supporting a club, the things that cemented that bond I don't think they've changed, although pricing of tickets and timing of games does make it harder. Our club is still perfectly capable of being stable and solvent as well as competitive, some stability would help that happen, I think.

It's not rank rotten, but it's not as good as 3 or 4 seasons ago, thats without doubt. Better Rangers sides than this one have been thumped at Parkhead. A star studded Rangers side who beat Celtic 5-1 in season 2000/01 lost 6-2 and 3-0 to them that season as well. I understand supporter's are angry and disappointed after a home defeat where we were second best all over the pitch, but surely some perspective is required? We are a club and a team going through transition. Only two players remain from the Europa League final run, one of them is a back up centre half and the other our much maligned right back and captain. That's huge change in a short time. For comparison the Celtic squad for that season contains 10 players who are still regular starters for them this season. We can pinpoint moments where things might have turned out differently. The huge one is failing to beat Malmo in Champion's League qualifying in 2021. Had we secured that money the squad could have been strengthened further, perhaps Gerrard wouldn't have been tempted away and our ability to match Celtic financially would have given a huge boost. Had we sold Morelos when he was one of the most exciting strikers in Europe, had we sold Kent when he was ripping holes in Bundesliga club defences for fun, had we sold Tav when he was one of the most effective attacking full backs in the Europa League... Decisions were made and we did none of those things. Our recruitment has suffered because of that. We're now a club that looks for potential talent in leagues or clubs a rung below us financially or in the reserves of clubs a rung or two above. We're not able to buy players in their prime now, not really good ones at least. We're a stepping stone for players hoping to make it to England or another league where the pay is much higher. Diomande, Jefte, Bajrami, Igamane and ever Barron will be hoping to develop and move within a couple of seasons. Guys like Cerny, Bajrami, Cortes, Nsiala we're the required 'step back' to move forward again. I'd say Propper is our only summer signing for who signing for a club like us is the final destination rather than than a stop on the way. That's a big change from under Gerrard and even from under Beale, who was indulged to an extent that we signed Danilo (over £5 million), Dessers (over £3 million), Lammers (£3.5 million) and even Cifuentes at £1.2 million. We must all surely realise that kind of spending on that type of player isn't going to happen again? I think it's going to be a rough season. We'll take some beatings at times, maybe even domestically. But I think we'll give some out too. Some of our signings look shrewd. Diomande, Jefte and Bajrami have ben early successes I'd say, Barron has shown enough to suggest he can become an important player and the fleeting glances of Cortes and Kasanwirjo suggest similar. Time is rarely given to Rangers managers and already some feel time is up for Clement. Yet time is what we need to give someone, Clement or whoever. This season still has some twists and turns ahead but if we're to build something we'll need to show patience and support. Again, not something we've always been good at. The only way we can compete financially, even with Celtic far less Lyon, is to develop players and sell them for a profit. That requires buying ones that aren't the finished article and trying to make them better. That's what we're doing this season and I don't see what other choice we have. I don't think it's Clement's fault that our squad isn't as good as it was 25 months ago, he can only play the hand he's been dealt. I've seen enough in some games to feel he does know what he's doing, but that it will take time and luck for that to to be fulfilled.

Obviously a lot of quite young supporters on here, like Compo, who might not realise that this is the third time Lyon have beaten us, fairly easily, at home. For us old timers this is something we've seen before, sometimes a European side turns up at Ibrox and is simply quicker, stronger and more skilful over the 90 minutes. Unless you're about 12 years old then this isn't the worst Rangers team you've seen. Last night, as against Celtic and as against Dynamo Kiev, our biggest problem remains our inability to convert our chances. Our team simply doesn't have enough goals in it. Lawrence is contributing now, Dessers will score some, but the rest of our team simply aren't. The goals have dried up from Tav, our centre halves aren't much of a threat from set pieces and our other midfield and attacking players simply don't score often enough. Lyon had goals right across their forward line. I don't think there is much we can do about that. We have the squad we have until January at least. Unless someone suddenly emerges that's going to be an ongoing problem. I suspect even if Cerny or Tav had scored early on. and they both should have, we might still have lost, but goals change games, they lift the crowd and force the opposition to change how they play. So who knows. This is a Rangers side in transition. Diomande, Bajrami and of course Butland looked decent last night, others found the pace, power and skill of Lyon to much. Anyone who thinks changing manager, again, in the autumn is he answer is very wrong, in my opinion.

Tom Anguish and the Guillotine. BBC Scotland supports all Scottish clubs in Europe? Of course, we know and, the rest of Scottish football knows; BBC Scotland supports one team more than all the rest put together. It is ra Sellik state of mind. Last night's 7-1 humbling in Dortmund presents a real problem for the denizens of PQ's Gang Hut. Domestically, it is a procession for their beloved green'n'grey hooped horrors. The national broadcaster is intent upon leading the gaudy coloured cavalcade. It is an exercise in triumphalism and the usual suspects are determined to be seen exercising ridiculous swagger when leading the parade. The Drum Major tosses the stick into the air, the cheers echo and, amid the cacophony you can hear the plaintive cry, 'in Brenda we trust'. In his two spells as Sellik Gaffer, Brendan has put out teams in the Champions League that have conceded seven goals on three occasions, six goals once and, five goals twice. He conducts the after match pressers with the same line of mitigation, suffered misfortune, endured higher standards of officialdom and, lessons have been learned from the experience. The last point is something PQ CSC ignores, despite another thumping the preferred narrative of way over the top hyperbole continues. Since the Slovaking easy victory over Bratislava the specific comments emanating from the Gang Hut have compounded : "Kyogo is akin to Messi" - I might have noticed this quality last night if he had not been replete in an invisible cloak. "Maeda is the best presser in world football" - James McFadden blamed him for two of Dortmund's goals. "Celtic are playing like the Harlem Globetrotters" - I suspect they were confusing the basketball entertainers with the reality, the Gallowgate Bogtrotters? "Celtic have invested in their future with Engels whereas Rangers are stuck with the same old faces" - I am sure he will be the third famous Belgian after TinTin and Hercule Poirot. PQ CSC has wound it's neck in reference website articles. The day after their Slovan victory, we were treated to 8(eight) pieces including the effect on the Scottish coefficient and how much money was earned from the game. There are only two articles this afternoon, one of which is a hard hitting critique by Tom Anguish. I thought they may have included Financial Analyst, Kieran Maguire's jottings ie Dortmund have three times the budget of Celtic whereas ra Bhoys have a budget 25 times that of St Johnstone? No, the continuing Sellik fantasy consumes the Gang Hut, there is no sustenance in cold porridge reality. Talking of Tom, the very essence of PQ was on display near the end of Sportsound. The panel was Kenny Macintyre(the Token), Pat Bonner, James McFadden and, Tom English. There had been a fastidious non mention of the last Scottish club to visit Dortmund throughout the show's four and a half hours. It was only three years past but the game was not referenced. The consensus being Brendan's team had been both naive and soft, would he/could he change it? Pat and James opined well rehearsed platitudes then, Tom dropped the R bomb. He compared Rangers 2-4 victory, recited the Dortmund team and, suggested a more practical approach from Brendan. The responses were illuminating. James dismissed the comparison with, "Brendan won't shut up shop and hope for a result" and Pat bullishly replied, "no Celtic supporter would take advice from a Rangers performance". Kenny moved the discussion on to the next game against Atlanta because the Producer/Director guillotined further discussion on that specific topic. A reminder of a Rangers victory was only going to rub salt into collective raw wounds. Pat allowed his mask to slip but, McFadden's retort is preposterous, Rangers parked the bus and got lucky on four occasions? Watch the game again Faddy. Brendan will continue to produce many more Champion League stinking turds and PQ will do Peter's bidding by rolling each and everyone of them in glitter.

He's not back again is he?

I do not know what problem 2 Hollywood stars, American based VC firms, Saudi investment fixes. For me we are in the mess we are in because we have not recruited properly on the footballing side or in the footballing operations department. We have spent money badly. That is the problem. More money does not fix that problem. Especially when that money comes from somewhere that focuses on ROI. The fix to our issues is easy. Do better with the money we have.

Klaxon, then mouthpiece for Sir Duped/Toxic Jack (TJ), switched sides and went in to bat for 'the good guys' over the spiv years. Other outlets, eg. 'The Scottish Sun' and BBC Scotland (mainly Chris McLaughlin) were used by TJ on behalf of Green&Co, Easdales, etc. Ashley actually possessed 'wealth off the radar' and was initially welcomed by some of the support. Another important error. All you had to do was research his M.O. in business, especially at Newcastle United. Lesson is not to blindly follow follow mainstream narratives without digging deeper. But unfortunately, we are world record holders for Gullibility. Our supporter groups take Be Divided and Be Conquered, to new levels. Any prospective spiv group currently looking at Rangers as a potential project will see a support that will be easily bent over. Just as well that our current custodians are very aware of such dangers. They may be having difficulty in running the club but you can't doubt their motives.

Looking forward to 26th of foot giving us the BBC PQ analysis of last night’s Dortmund disaster…..🤓

We got beat by Lyon at home under Gerrard too, my argument is fine, I don't think you understand it. We can still make it to the business end of the EL this season. If we beat FCSB, USG and take something from Nice and Olympiacos we will get through. In fact the year we made the final, before we reached the EL we were beaten twice by a Malmo side who I'm not sure are much better than this seasons after making a tough job of some eastern European postmen in Alashkert shirts. When we started the Europa under Gerrard we suffered consecutive defeats by Lyon and Sparta Prague. But took 4 points from Brondby before Gio took over and we beat Prague and drew with Lyon in essentially a dead rubber. Dortmund was an outlier, if we had played them 10 times we would probably have lost 5 times, drawn a couple and won a couple. Leipzig too, I think they were spooked by the occasion that night at Ibrox while our team rose to it, it was a perfect storm. Red Star Belgrade and Braga no. Even Frankfurt were not a big spender in comparison to many German teams at the time. But like I say that team we had that made it to the Europa league was paid more, had been bought for more and had gelled more than what we have now. I think there is some revisionism for many supporters around Gerrard and our run to Seville. The getting a hiding from a very expensively assembled Lyon at Ibrox is just how it is. And everyone needs to pull up the big boy trousers and look forward to Sunday and 3 points, and longer term reinforcements in January's transfer window.

Well done, Ally for turning up well attired and not looking like a pantomime Rob Roy on Hallowe’en

Good news. For all his limitations, Hagi has proven himself to be a useful player in a Rangers jersey so is much better contributing to the first team than not. Best outcome for all parties.

On Dessers, he excels in one and two touch hold up/link play imo. If you're firing it into him with no immediate runners he struggles badly. Which is why I think Bajrami in the 10 will make a big difference - you saw that the other night with how they linked up through the middle. Lawrence just hasn't got the legs for it.

Illya Kuryakin did see him in the stand one day back in the 60s

John Stones perhaps ?

How are you determing "big"? CL - check EL - check OF - check There was analysis done on his goals last season and the vast majority of his goals were openers, levellers or winners. He also scored in every compition he played in last season and has done the same this season thus far. Again tonight in a cup quarter final he scores the opener and the 3rd that killed the game (great goal by the way). The big fella can't do much more but some (for whatever reason) still won't accept him.

Not dropped; rotated out to ensure minutes for other players....

Bheasts goalless at HT at home to Jambos. Brave young referee gives an early booking to a bheasts for a poor tackle, and then a penalty to Hearts when Shanklands header from a corner hits the outstretched arm of Scales. A full 2 minutes of McGregor in his face, touching his arms, gesticulating, and clearly trying to influence the referee. When VAR does their usual and says in his ear “you don’t want the hassle mate, have another look” then this behaviour pays off as the referee goes to the monitor which is located right in amongst the bheasts fans who are all screaming at him, sees exactly what he seen when he gave the penalty, and bottles it and overturns the decision. I don’t think it’s paranoia to think that if this was at Ibrox, the penalty would stand because we would not spend that time trying to put doubt in the referees mind, and VAR may not see enough to suggest a review.

Financial matters are seriously concerning. I suspect there may be a takeover in the wings. If there isn't I am even more concerned but also concerned if there is. Better the devil you know? Choppy waters indeed. It is time for us to get behind the team in a big way.

Might as well put Compo in charge. He may be able to raise temporary finance via Bet365.

https://www.rangersreview.co.uk/news/24639268.rangers-executive-set-quit-club-ibrox-shake-up-continues/ Dujon can also fill the vacancy left by Creag Robertson.

Davie Macpherson - 276 appearances, 27 caps and never rated by anyone. He looked awkward but was actually really effective. Stuart Munro - from the same era, underrated fullback, played 179 times, wasn't signed from Italy or England and so was often overlooked by media, supporters and management.

I don't hack, that's for amateurs. Subliminal messages and Jedi mind tricks more my cup of tea.

I've got some sympathy with that view. It seems that half our support are ready to jump on any bandwagon to slag off our players over the past few years and a couple of bad games get exaggerated into half a season. To be fair, it seems to me that it's largely the non-match attending fans who are the worst for it, but it does get a bit draining where some players are harassed in person and online.

Just seen the highlights. VAR missed Dessers jersey being held at a first half corner. Not a surprise any more is it?

Cerny Should be sat on the bench

When you see these results happen to them in Europe regularly it makes you sick that our lads shite their pants at the sight of green and white.

Only certain teams can win in Dortmund 😁

Baxter was a far better player than either Shearer or Greig but he was never a captain. Barron’s got what it takes to captain the side and he’ll never be as good a player as Ferguson.

I thought Liam's nadir came at the end of the match with, "Rangers have pilfered three points". 'Pilfered' - stealing something of little value. The three points won by Rangers are of the same value as the three points won by Liam's favourites against Dundee and, are even valued the same as his auld man's favourites win at Perth. Maybe Liam should concentrate his energies upon his brother, Rory? We cannot visit the sins of Rory on his bruv' but, whilst a senior Police officer it was revealed Rory had a social media history of vile comments reference the Ibrox Disaster. If Rangers are pilfering, is Rory stealing the dignity of folks who attended a football match and had the air crushed from their bodies? Liam is the very epitome of PQ.

I thought it was a pretty obvious penalty yesterday (having seen the replays).

3 points, great goal, the rest is best forgotten. We were dead on our feet for the last 25 minutes.

Plus ca change encore. Having viewed another humiliation at ra Stade de Gadd, I decided a month in French froggy France was necessary. I found both sustenance and consolation in table d'hote lunches. This allowed me to view the ensuing Rangers games on line, with varying degrees of trepidation. There is an undeniable advantage to being abroad for every Rangers supporter, when attempting to view/hear BBC Scotland's live content you are met with Big Dick telling you, "due to licensing reasons, live content is unavailable in your location". Do not fret fellow Bears, the full spectrum from indifference to hate can be accessed on BBC Scotland's website. First up is Richard Foster, I read on line that Wee Dick had been the recipient of a six match suspension due to his claims that the VAR explanation to award Dessers goal against St Johnstone was, "lies, it's a lie". I clicked on to PQ's website for a the fuller story and eventually found a two sentence report. The national broadcaster fully facilitated Wee Dick's gaffe but, obviously refrained from taking credit. Turn the volume down when Wee Dick is being caned, turn it up to eleven when he swings the boot into Rangers. Next up is Tom English, he was not impressed with Rangers performance at Tannadice. Sitting on a balcony in Brittany, it was a hard view but, I thought Rangers looked untroubled. Our problem is something that has become more apparent, profligacy? Tom decided the Ref' cautioned several Rangers players because they were hanging on and were intent upon wasting time. I thought the match stats published along side Tom's comment rubbished his claim. Dundee United did not create a single attempt on the Rangers goal. Tom was off to PQ in the green, in the green for Euro' action. He was stuck in the studio on the night when the ra Sellik faced Bratislava because he continues to suffer a Peter ban from joining the Irish diaspora at the Brendan Bowl. It was Slovakaneasy for the hooped horrors and Vladimir Weiss won a BAFTA as perfect pantomime villain. We endured eight separate stories on the PQ website : a match report, Brendan's post match comments, where Sellik won the game, Sellik second in the CL table, report on the unmatched atmosphere, Sellik carrying the Scottish standard, Sellik's contribution to the coefficient and, how much Sellik earned from the result. It was an evening of party streamers and balloons that carried into the next day's news bulletins. In contrast, PQ was considerably more downbeat when Rangers travelled to Sweden. The broadcaster's build up told us we had never beaten Malmo in Euro' action and the club's social media was extracting enormous joy from previous meetings. If we were applying our shoulder to carry the Scottish standard, PQ were determined not to provide any wind to see it flying. Despit our profligacy, Rangers enjoyed a comfortable 0-2 victory in the land of smorgasbord. The evidence suggests BBC Scotland found the buffet rather unpalatable? The website carried two reports, a match report from Martin Dowden and an insight piece from Thomas Duncan. Alongside these two items, there were three reports on Sellik ladies qualifying for the Champions League, including a two minute highlights package. Forty seconds of the 140 showed arms linked Sellik players standing in front of a Broomfield stand containing a couple of hundred supporters singing, 'You'll never walk alone'. The next day's news bulletins did not carry a mention of the Rangers result but, the perceived good news of the Bernadettes qualification and ensuing draw did. We were spared a showing/hearing of the musical anthem about suicide. Finally, another story I picked up from BBC Scotland's website was Glasgow City Council's decision to cash in on the forty year popularity of Glaswegians adorning the Queen Street Duke of Wellington's equestrian statue with traffic cone head wear. GCC are placing a bigger traffic cone hat on Chookie Boots containing paid for advertising. You know the type of thing - 'Susan Aitken Meatloaf tribute act playing soon'? I suggest PQ invest and indulge, ah mean ra Chookie was born'n'bred in Ireland. Something appropriate eg - BBC Scotland, happy to blow Peter's cheese or truthful - BBC Scotland, a Celtic State of Mind. Plus ca change encore.

We were 4-4-2 against the ball again tonight. We've always looked really solid like that. The manager hopefully sees this and implements it going forward.

Clement has not lost an away game in Europe. Betis, Benfica, Kiev, Malmo.

Some bizarre officiating by the way. I think we should have had at least 2 pens...

It's never going to happen in the near future. It could have happened in the early 90s when Sky had so much power and they could have forced the EPL to accept us, but now the EPL has grown exponentially and they don't need Sky and don't need us. UEFA will prevent things like the Atlantic league from happening with moves similar to the new (dreadful) CL and Europa League format. The only way that it could happen would be for a club to win a EU case on something like restraint of trade, but even then we would presumably still be reliant on the EPL voting to accept us, and why would they? We need to accept that we're here in Scotland and plan to improve our situation here.

I'm sure it's been mooted on here before but we should be putting in the groundwork to bring in Lyall Cameron from Dundee next summer. He'd be a more than decent flexible rotation option in the midfield who could develop into a starter imo. Especially if we're letting Lawrence go. Which we should be.

I reckon that's why we've had a slow start tbh, aye it's been a big turnover but we've got a lot of young and inexperienced players in the XI and match day squad now. I'm quietly confident that we've got the beginnings of a decent side. Let them live a European campaign and title challenge this season and they'll be better for it.

Quick update on some of the guys that have left. OUT - Kieran Wright (25) – on loan OUT - Robby McCrorie (26) - signed for Kilmarnock, already been dropped and lost his place in the team OUT - Sam Lammers (27) - sold to Twente plays most weeks and scored a couple of goals. OUT - Connor Goldson (31) - sold to Aris Limassol OUT - Todd Cantwell - sold to Blackburn Rovers → Contracts ending Summer 2024 Jon McLaughlin (36) - contract 6/2024 - signed backup at Swansea City Kemar Roofe (30) - ST - contract 6/2024 - still without a club Borna Barisic (31) - LB - contract 6/2024 - at Trabzonspor, plays rotated with their Turkish lad. Ryan Jack (32) – CM - contract 6/2024 - signed for a Turkish 2nd division outfit, on the bench at the weekend. John Lundstram (30) - CM - contract 6/2024 - signed for Trabzonspor. Played early on but dropped recently. 'Lundstram is a very heavy and cumbersome football player.' - technical director Senol Gunes Abdallah Sima (22) - RW/ST - contract till 2024 (season long loan) joined Breast, will play in the CL. Fabio Silva (21) - ST – loan to Las Palmas to play with Oli MCBurnie and Scott McKenna. Not played yet. Reason for the update - I think this illustrates how these guys we have lost wouldn't add any value (out with Sima) and we shouldn't be concerned with letting highly paid / low performing players go.

If we're patient and develop him properly Barron could be what we've been missing since Davo retired. High praise I know. I thought he dictated the game in the first half. First thought forward, if not recycle. My motm.

Wishing John Bennett a speedy recovery. A true bluenose and a good man who hasn't hesitated for a moment to plough multi-millions of his own money to keep the club going forward after the disaster that we were. I hope the club remains in the hands of like minded people. It'll take a bit of fan patience for the foreseeable future, but I think we are in good hand with John Gilligan, another of the good men who saved us when we needed saving. The club needs our backing more than ever right now. Now let's hope the team give the Dundee HIVs a doing tomorrow for John.

I'd like to see more of Nana. I might be wrong, but was there not a moment when he was moaning at or encouraging his teammates? More of that.

Sorry, but I cant understand that logic. Their league form is nothing to do with our ability to beat them considering they will play better teams than us most weeks. I think so many Rangers fans are stuck in some parallel universe to me where we should be beating sides like Lyon for fun. You will enjoy the games v Man U and Spurs. Clubs who trade players for more than our entire club is worth.

I am hearing Humza Yousaf led ten thousand Palestinian demonstrators to the Westfalenstadion at half time, demanding an immediate ceasefire.

Just back home from the match. I wish I had stayed at home!!. 3pts, clean sheet, great goal, that's it!.

The ideal start to our Europa League campaign last night. Thought for the most part we were well organised, kept our shape well and really limited Malmo to the odd set-piece whilst clearly looking very dangerous on the counter ourselves with some positive passages of play. No surprise Malmo upped their game for a period after half-time and I did think the manager was a wee bit slow to react to this and we were maybe fortunate not to concede. Barron did have the tendency to jump out of midfield to a degree which left gaps that Cerny and Lawrence sometimes struggled to identify and react to. Bringing on Raskin and Sterling basically shut down the Malmo threat and the 2nd goal really made us comfortable. All in all, a very good team performance but various individuals stood out: Souttar, Propper, Nana, Barron and Bajrami to name a few but everyone played their part. Onto Hibs now and another win really would help us gain more confidence. Credit to the manager and players for reacting well to that Old Firm humbling and not allowing the off-field/boardroom noise to affect their contribution. Can't wait to get back to a full Ibrox on Sunday!