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Possibly the worst display of refereeing since the dawn of time. But a wonderful result. In the words of Nigel, you’re not laughing now.

Right result, mind. And anything that puts Jum Spence on suicide watch is OK by me.

Beautiful Sunday.

Harry Hood is the latest ex player to pass away Harry was an excellent player a first class passer of the ball and a good reader of the game, I knew him for a long time and his old father in law that was how he got into the pub trade .

Good luck to them. Would rather St Mirren stay up. United should reap what they have sown for a few years yet

I believe SG’s job just got a lot easier today following their appointment of Lennon. I’m genuinely surprised. I really did expect them to go for a big name. I was dreading them getting someone like Rafa Benitez

I have no inside info or knowledge but I believe in SG, I expect a couple of marquee signings and I also expect better next season, I expect to win the league next season.

It’s their west of Scotland upbringing. Brought up in Scotland but think they’re Irish & hate all things British

https://www.footballscotland.co.uk/spfl/scottish-premiership/how-scottish-premiership-clubs-qualify-15962041.amp

He would have been a tremendous addition to any team , a wonderful player.

https://www.the-ra.org/news/ifab-law-changes-2019-2020 The following summarises the main Law changes for 2019/20 with an explanation for the changes (in alphabetical order). Dropped ball - Laws 8 & 9 Changes If play is stopped inside the penalty area, the ball will be dropped for the goalkeeper If play is stopped outside the penalty area, the ball will be dropped for one player of the team that last touched the ball at the point of the last touch In all cases, all the other players (of both teams) must be at least 4m (4.5yds) away If the ball touches the referee (or another match official) and goes into the goal, team possession changes or a promising attack starts, a dropped ball is awarded Explanation The current dropped ball procedure often leads to a ‘manufactured’ restart which is ‘exploited’ unfairly (e.g. kicking the ball out for a throw-in deep in the opponents’ half) or an aggressive confrontation. Returning the ball to the team that last played it restores what was ‘lost’ when play was stopped, except in the penalty area where it is simpler to return the ball to the goalkeeper. To prevent that team gaining an unfair advantage, all players of both teams, except the player receiving the ball, must be at least 4m (4.5 yds) away. It can be very unfair if a team gains an advantage or scores a goal because the ball has hit a match official, especially the referee. Free Kicks - Law 13 Changes When there is a ‘wall’ of three or more defenders, the attackers are not allowed within 1m (1 yd) of the wall; an attacker less than 1m (1yd) from the ‘wall’ when the•kick is taken will be penalised with an indirect free kick When the defending team takes a free kick in their own penalty area, the ball is in play once the kick is taken; it does not have to leave the penalty area before it can be played Explanation Attackers standing very close to, or in, the defensive ‘wall’ at a free kick often cause management problems and waste time. There is no legitimate tactical justification for attackers to be in the ‘wall’ and their presence is against the ‘spirit of the game’•and often damages the image of the game. The experiment where, at a defending team free kick in the penalty area, the ball is in play once it is kicked and does not have to leave the penalty area, has produced a faster and more constructive restart. Opponents must remain outside the penalty area and at least 9.15m away until the ball is in play. The same change has been made to the goal kick (see Law 16). Goal Celebrations - Law 12 Changes A YC for an ‘illegal’ celebration (e.g. removing the shirt) remains even if the goal is disallowed Explanation Cautions for inappropriate goal celebrations apply even if the goal is disallowed as the impact (safety, image of the game etc.) is the same as if the goal was awarded. Goal Kick - Law 16 Changes The ball is in play once the kick is taken; it can be played before leaving the penalty area Explanation The experiment that at a goal kick the ball is in play once it is kicked, and does not have to leave the penalty area, has created a faster and more dynamic/constructive restart to the game. It has reduced the time ‘lost/wasted’ including stopping the tactic of ‘wasting’ time when a defender deliberately plays the ball before it leaves the penalty area knowing that all that will happen is the goal kick will be retaken. Opponents must remain outside the penalty area until the ball is in play Handball - Law 12 Changes Deliberate handball remains an offence The following ‘handball’ situations, even if accidental, will be a free kick: The ball goes into the goal after touching an attacking player’s hand/arm A player gains control/possession of the ball after it has touches their hand/arm•and then scores, or creates a goal-scoring opportunity The ball touches a player’s hand/arm which has made their body unnaturally bigger The ball touches a player’s hand/arm when it is above their shoulder (unless the player has deliberately played the ball which then touches their hand/arm) The following will not usually be a free kick, unless they are one of the above situations: The ball touches a player’s hand/arm directly from their own head/body/foot or the head/body/foot of another player who is close/near The ball touches a player’s hand/arm which is close to their body and has not made their body unnaturally bigger If a player is falling and the ball touches their hand/arm when it is between their body and the ground to support the body (but not extended to make the body bigger) If the goalkeeper attempts to ‘clear’ (release into play) a throw-in or deliberate kick from a team-mate but the ‘clearance’ fails, the goalkeeper can then handle the ball Explanation Greater clarity is needed for handball, especially on those occasions when ‘non- d•eliberate’ handball is an offence. The re-wording follows a number of principles: Football does not accept a goal being scored by a hand/arm (even if accidental) Football expects a player to be penalised for handball if they gain possession/control of the ball from their hand/arm and gain a major advantage e.g. score or create a goal-scoring opportunity It is natural for a player to put their arm between their body and the ground for support when falling. Having the hand/arm above shoulder height is rarely a ‘natural’ position and a player is ‘taking a risk’ by having the hand/arm in that position, including whensliding If the ball comes off the player’s body, or off another player (of either team) who is•close by, onto the hands/arms it is often impossible to avoid contact with the ball When the GK clearly kicks or tries to kick the ball into play, this shows no intention to handle the ball so, if the ‘clearance’ attempt is unsuccessful, the goalkeeper can then handle the ball without committing an offence Kick-Off - Law 8 Changes The team that wins the toss can now choose to take the kick-off or which goal to attack (previously they only had the choice of which goal to attack) Explanation Recent Law changes have made the kick-off more dynamic (e.g. a goal can be scored directly from the kick-off) so captains winning the toss often ask to take the kick-off. Medical Breaks - Law 7 Changes Difference between ‘cooling’ breaks (90 secs – 3 mins) and ‘drinks’ breaks (max 1 min) Explanation In the interests of player safety, competition rules may allow, in certain weather conditions (e.g. high humidity and temperatures), ‘cooling’ breaks (from ninety seconds to three minutes) to allow the body’s temperature to fall; they are different from ‘drinks’ breaks (maximum one minute) which are for rehydration. Penalty Kick - Law 14 Changes The team’s penalty taker can have (quick) treatment/assessment and then take the kick The goalkeeper must not be touching the goalposts/crossbar/nets; they must not be moving The goalkeeper must have at least part of one foot on/in line with the goal line when the kick is taken; cannot stand behind the line Explanation It is unfair if the kicker needs assessment/treatment and then has to leave the field and cannot take the penalty kick. The referee must not signal for the penalty kick to be taken if the goalkeeper is touching the goalposts, crossbar or net, or if they are moving e.g. the goalkeeper has kicked/shaken them Goalkeepers are not permitted to stand in front of or behind the line. Allowing the goalkeeper to have only one foot touching the goal line (or, if jumping, in line with the goal line) when the penalty kick is taken is a more practical approach as it is easier to identify if both feet are not on the line. As the kicker can ‘stutter’ in the run, it is reasonable that the goalkeeper can take one step in anticipation of the kick. Players' Equipment - Law 4 Changes Multi-coloured/patterned undershirts are allowed if they are the same as the sleeve of the main shirt Explanation Manufacturers now make patterned undershirts whose sleeves are the same as the main shirt sleeve; these should be allowed as they help match officials’ decision-making. Quick free kick and YC/RC - Law 12 Changes If the referee is about to issue a YC/RC but the non-offending team takes the free kick quickly and creates a goal-scoring opportunity, the referee can delay the YC/RC until the next stoppage if the offending team was not distracted by the referee Explanation Occasionally, an attack is stopped by a cautionable (YC) or sending-off (RC) offence and the attacking team takes a quick free kick which restores the ‘lost’ attack; it is clearly ‘unfair’ if this ‘new’ attack is stopped to issue the YC/RC. However, if the referee has distracted the offending team by starting the YC/RC procedure, the quick free kick is not allowed. For a DOGSO offence, the player will be cautioned (YC) and not sent-off (RC) because the attack was re-started (as when advantage is applied for a DOGSO offence). Substitutes - Law 3 Changes A player who is being substituted must leave the field by the nearest point on the touchline/goal line (unless the referee indicates the player can leave quickly/immediately at the halfway line or a different point because of safety, injury etc.) Explanation To stop a player who is being substituted ‘wasting’ time by leaving slowly at the halfway line (which is not a Law requirement) the player must leave at the nearest point (as with an injury) unless the referee indicates otherwise, e.g. if the player can leave quickly at the halfway line, there is a safety/security issue or the player leaves on a stretcher. The player must go immediately to the technical area or dressing room to avoid problems with substitutes, spectators, or the match officials. A player who infringes the spirit of this Law should be sanctioned for unsporting behaviour i.e. delaying the restart of play. Team Officials - Laws 5 & 12 Changes A team official guilty of misconduct will be shown a YC (caution) or RC (sending-off)*; if the offender cannot be identified, the senior coach who is in the technical area at the time will receive the YC/RC * Law 12 will have a list of YC/RC offences Explanation The experiment with YC/RC for misconduct by team officials has been successful and has revealed many benefits at all levels, including for young referees dealing with ‘difficult’ adult coaches. If the offender cannot be identified, the senior team official (usually the main coach) in the technical area will receive the YC/RC (as the person responsible for the other team officials

Now let`s hope Dundee stays strong and gets straight promotion ...

Haw Jum Spence! That complaint you made to the Police, when some young lad shouted abuse at you from across the road in your home village, how is it progressing? I was just thinking about it as your club, Dundee United missed their fourth penalty in a row in the shoot-out against St Boo. Truly, how much did it mean to you? The thing is Jum, you were a paid Consultant at Tannadice for several months, you played a part in the club's current predicament. Lovely, what goes around, comes around.

Dreadful match

John Beaton have his usual consistent game ?

He hasnt mentioned it on twitter. Not sure of their post-match stuff.

Did you know that when Fitzpatrick took over years ago he aimed to make it an all catholic club , it didn't work out and someone seen seen sense and sacked him .

I heard that Law wanted to hammer them to get his revenge for the 9-3 game in 1961

The story I heard was that in the 1967 Wembley game, Law was screaming to get the ball up to him as he wanted to crush England with lots of goals. Baxter had other plans. His way of crushing the opposition was to showboat and humiliate them that way. Baxter would also wind up Alan Ball by asking him is he was jimmy Clitheroe's dad.

Thankfully, I have absolutely no idea how Michael Stewart has reacted to the penalty incident.

Agreed. If Lennon is confirmed you have to say it sends various messages. Real ambition isn't there, eg. "we are a Champions League Team" quote will be mocked by their own support Reality for Scottish clubs is that financial marginalisation is gathering pace and little prospect of avoiding it in short to medium term Post Rodgers/Summer2018/lack of spend/inner turmoil........... Days when Biscuit Tin sees daylight* seem to be confirmed as minimum (pending summer transfer window numbers) Their Board are taking a big risk regards their own positions, eg. they are in second place come the next AGM. If we could win 55th then watch their ST numbers drop like a stone for 20/21 * You have to qualify that and say that wage bill is relatively high ---------------------------- I think it would also increase the need for us to take the opportunity and win it next season. That might mean significant financial risk for ourselves. I'd caution against too much celebration of this,... Cautious optimism is about right. Obviously, you have to see what happens in recruitment for both sides. Then it's about us putting a side together and actually consistently winning more games of football than them. 2019/20 is going to be for extremely high stakes.

Hadn’t seen that Ian, blatant dive although, I imagine Gollum was all to happy to oblige his heroes.

We need a marquee signing. It would put down marker to the yahoos who will go backwards with TLB in charge

Mind on my 4lads pod I said we would make a marquee signing ??

Why shouldn't they? They are doing what young people do and should be allowed to do it in peace.

If I played forRangers I think I’d be holidaying well away from Neanderthal man.

Marks out of 10? I'd give her one....

Thats just utter nonsense DB, to choose that one error when referring errors like on Sunday, Easter Road (twice), and player errors like Worrell at kilmarnock in jan which took all our momentum away are much more responsible than that. Given what Tav has provided at the other end, to pick out that one costly error (and it is not as if it was an open goal from that moment, we had other opportunities to prevent that error becoming a goal) is being overly critical.

As long as no one sang a nasty song, it's okay.