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Just now, ranger_syntax said:

Fitness might have played a part but I think that his plan to move on was the main problem.

 

Some players just lose motivation at that point.

 

He looks like he will not recover the motivation that we need.

I'm sure he'll be able to regain the motivation at the right club and in the right environment, neither of which he had in Turkey. 

I'm sure he'd do a great job for a championship club in England. 

I'm not sure whether we can take the "profit" at face value. Wages are £179K which seems incredibly light given the staff that work there during the week and the staff that work on matchdays and at events (security. bar staff etc). I guess Rangers must incur much of these costs but I have to wonder whether they are being fully recharged.

The accounts already state that the audit fees are met by Rangers and I wonder how much else isn't being recharged. It had to make a profit politically for the directors.

This project seemed ego driven and the directors wanted it in place for the 150 anniversary (it was late) and were willing to sell the Albion to fund it.

I'm glad we've got NEH but not at the cost of losing the Albion, and perhaps a but more time should have been taken if we wouldn't afford it.  It does seem a long way away from generating £1m profit that was mentioned.

13 hours ago, Bill said:

So a purely subjective opinion then and no more objectively valid than @compo's opinion to the contrary?

It's a forum. Most posts are subjective opinion. Surely you're aware of that?

32 minutes ago, Bill said:

Is there any way of backup my up that claim?

Just watching games from the 70s and comparing them with current day games. 

34 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

That team had season long stamina of mind and body.

Players nowadays are faster, stronger and generally fitter than they were in the days of Gullane. The advancements in the science of it all are significant.

You only have to watch games from back then to realise how players have changed and how much more intense the game is now.

Perhaps there's an argument about the relative fitness given the time but in absolute terms there's no question that players now are far fitter.

15 hours ago, ian1964 said:

 

There's a few from QSTB who have travelled across to Spain and staying in La Manga, and are hoping to get access to the closed door game. Good luck to them for that dedication!

33 minutes ago, der Berliner said:

Jon McLaughlin too ... 

He's going nowhere. Nobody else is going to pick up his salary at that level till the end of the season, so we're stuck with him.

I wouldn't be surprised if he then retired.

2 hours ago, alexscottislegend said:

Just as long as there is a buying option added.

Apparently there isn't.

Edit - we're apparently looking for 2.5m for him and not sure that they can afford that, but we'll take it from anyone.

2 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

What makes you think we offered these two players smaller sign-on fees and wages than other clubs?

It's well publicised that Butland took a wage cut to join us rather than be 3rd choice at Man Utd.

19 minutes ago, Fa1833 said:

Let’s hope we have more players like Jack and Dijon’s agents who want them to play football , 

Sterling hasn't been playing that much football. We brought him in primarily as cover for the right back position and has never looked that great there. He had one great game at left back coming on as a sub, but he has done well as a defensive midfielder, but still isn't first choice in that position. Let's hope 

As for Jack, I p[resume that you mean Butland? There's an element of risk bringing in a 30-something player who has hardly played over the last few years. Goalie is probably the easiest position to do that. We've won a watch with him, but we've been burnt in the past with bringing in similar players. I'm not sure using him as a basis of a trading model will lead to long term success.

35 minutes ago, Fa1833 said:

Yeah of course it will to some degree but look at the quality of players coming to Rangers who have saved us from games , Djion and Jack cost us nothing,  if I was head of recruitment and players weren’t playing European football and still young like the talent of Djion and Jack, id be pushing sign for us for 2-3 years  guaranteed to play European football and win cups and potentially league , yes we aren’t going to compete with the big dogs in prices but we can compete when there buying the latest “ top players” and leaving players like Djion sitting in the bench when we could easily have and use those players to our advantage and signed on a contract for a fraction of the price , plus we don’t need to pay large sums of money for players past there peak on loan to us for situations like Tillman to become an occasional thing within the club , How much would you say Djion is worth now compared to 4 months ago? I’d say by the end of the season easily £7-8 million if he keeps on playing the way he does, no doubt he will be sold on or goes on a free after his contract expires, especially if this is what we are doing with all the players who have come before us like  Bassey with talent , who has this actually profited not Rangers football club itself or the fans. 

That is the current model, but it's also the model of many other clubs around Europe. 

We have had some limited success with it, but it's not that easy to do AND be successful on the park. We've also still not had a profitable year over the last 15 years. We need to aim to consistently break-even over a period of time before we can build up a reserve of cash to look at stadium expansion.

18 minutes ago, Uilleam said:

Don't shoot the messenger.

Don't bet in reliance on this.

The tweet is from Jan 1st.

Given there's a been no mention of it anywhere else in the past week, we can probably file it under "lot of shite".

17 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

You can never have enough of those types, possessing real quality, for me. 

 

Obviously, you still want a goalscorer.

 

I get the impression PC likes those quick, versatile players. They're raw, athletic players that a good coach can mould (Gelhardt had a good spell under Bielsa, who similarly likes that type of player, for example).

So he should persevere with Lammers? 😂

15 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

Gelhardt's a wonderful player; strong, quick, good dribbler and his build-up play - in the right system (Bielsa) - is superb. He is not a goalscorer, but can play anywhere across the front-three and #10. 

 

I'm sure we have one of those in our squad already 

1 hour ago, Devil's advocaat said:

Tour guide was excellent, Billy was his name but I never caught his surname, sure I recognised him from somewhere.

 

One of the Gersnet members is now a tour guide at Ibrox.

24 minutes ago, compo said:

Next time I’m in Glasgow will pay it a visit can you just walk in there’s no booking or anything like that 

I think that you need to book, but it can be done easily online with hourly slots.

13 hours ago, Malangsob said:

Rangers did that for their 'everyone anyone' campaign a few years ago.

It was a huge virtue signal that highlighted every statistical outlier in the fan base. 

 People missing limbs, some guy with the tats on his face, lesbians, a pirate, a Bornean head hunter...Nigel Farage.

It was both cringe and vomit inducing.

I personally loathe the shit out of that kinda crap....such as Scott7's mention of a kit selection to highlight knife violence.

It's inane, vain, drivel, akin to standing in front of a burning home holding a sign that says 'look at me!'

 

I'm not sure that the Arsenal thing will have much of an impact. Calling for stiffer sentences for carrying a knife would be better.

I think that the "Everyone Anyone" campaign does have merit though. A gay friend of mine suffered homophobic abuse abuse, albeit mild, at Ibrox and my daughter learned some sectarian terms a few weeks ago, which I'd have preferred her not to hear. Attitudes on things like this are changing and continued campaigns can help.

In addition, it's helpful from a UEFA/KIO situation that they can point to it and show that they are trying.

22 hours ago, Fa1833 said:

I know Rangers do loads of stuff be it Football for children who are Autistic my son being one who attends and it’s helped him massively.

That's great to hear!

35 minutes ago, Tannochsidebear said:

But what atmosphere are they generating. All I hear is that bloody drum, and some infantile made up songs about players who have done nothing in the Rangers careers to date to merit such adulation. To me it doesnt add anything to the atmosphere, just some background noise. 

Background noise is surely better than silence?

Your argument falls down when you complain about them singing about players in the team. You obviously have no objectivity, which I guess is due to your interactions with them.. I can understand them being criticised for some of their repertoire but don't see what's wrong in creating songs about individual players. They are trying to support the current team. Are they meant to limit their songs to past players and BSOI? There's loads to complain about the UBs on, but the songs about the current players is bottom of the list. Tell me you didn't join in with the Lundstram song at the Leipzig game? 

16 hours ago, Bill said:

However you spin this, the objective of VAR is to deliver correct and factual decision making on a consistent basis. That's clearly not happening. If VAR depends on the impartiality and fairness of officials then it's probably a waste of time in Scotland. The stain of bigotry and corruption permeates everything in Scottish football and it will never fulfil its mission unless it is taken out of the hands of our domestic officials. Ergo, something is very wrong with VAR.

VAR has given us penalties against Hearts, Livingston, Aberdeen and Dundee this season when the ref missed the incidents (and maybe more, that's all I can remember).

It's got its faults but it's hardly a waste of time. It generally does pick up referee's errors, deliberate or otherwise, and generally works in our favour when refs in general are so pro-Celtic. They can't get away with all the stuff that they did before VAR was introduced and that's why Celtic are so against it.

There's obviously a human aspect involved and it's never going to be perfect but things are a lot better than they were before its introduction.

2 hours ago, Tannochsidebear said:

I dont see how waving a flag is encouraging the team to play while the ball is in play. All it is doing is obstructing the view of Rangers fans who actually want to watch the team play. Incredible capitulation by the club.

They've said that flags should not be raised while the ball is in play. It'll be interesting to see if they stick to that.

I'd have thought that a big issue would also be those remaining in CF whose view may be obstructed by the singing section who stand for the whole game. I'd be asking for a seat move if I had to stand for the whole game.

2 hours ago, Tannochsidebear said:

Its almost as if they think the great atmosphere at the big Euro games was down to them and not the other 49,000 supporters who made the noise on those occasions. If it was all down to them then surely the atmosphere would be good every week? Newsflash, it isnt. It is just an irritable drumbeat throughout the game adding nothing to the atmosphere.

TBF, virtually all atmosphere in regular games is created by them. the stadium would be a morgue at times without them.

3 hours ago, Sutton_blows_goats said:

I think it needs to be simplified and have the 3 review rule like in tennis.

 

Forget about these offside by a fingernail things over examining every goal to see if someone farted during the build up.

 

Only review incidents after a manager or captain request - will reduce the amount of VAR stoppages.

 

There's been a couple of incidents this season where nobody has claimed but VAR has picked up a hand ball and we've got a penalty. 

Obviously tennis has natural pauses after each point. I'm not sure it would work the same in football. If the captain isn't near the ref or management are busy trying to review the incident on screens to decide whether an appeal is justified and the opposition try and restart the game to prevent the appeal could be problematic.