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1 hour ago, ChelseaBoy said:

It's not just happening here, it's being debated by all clubs supporters large enough to have a forum. Nobody at any club anywhere has suggested otherwise, just like any other sport. I don't know why some people feel you have to make public shows of identity politics. If people want to come and participate they will, its so lazy to blame all the ills on white protestants or whites in general. Lazy and racist.  

Should've been more clear, I was referring to the fan who brought our club up during his speech at the BLM rally in Glasgow. (Our club being mentioned in more offical capacities regarding these social issues) I am not blaming anyone for anything really - everyone is entitled to their own view. 

I just feel BLM movement is so big and vast, it stands for so many things but mainly stands firmly vs racism and thats not a bad message for the club to align itself with. You dont have to agree with everything it stands for either. If people have such an issue with BLM would they be happy with the club doing their own thing with the everyone anyone campaign - focusing even more efforts on it?  

Has there been any chat from fans or anyone else at all regarding the toilets? Otherwise why would the cub just out the blue make an announcement on what toilets trans people can use? If people dont want the club to make a public stance with BLM and getting involved with social / political issues then why would we choose to get publicly involved with this?

4 hours ago, MacK1950 said:

Politics is politics and should not be a part of sport.This "black lives matter" has gone on long enough,should be finished with as it is too one sided.

Don't know if anyone agrees but taking the position, in which the guy was killed, is highlighting the method of what happened and not a protest and derogatory to the guys death.

Taking the knee was a BLM protest long before George Floyd's murder. 

51 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

I think that's the whole point.

 

Really? Don’t see that in the OP. I see someone wanting the club to conform to their views. Nothing about taking a survey of female fans and how they feel about it. 

Why don’t we ask female fans how they feel about the toilet issue? Instead of a bunch of dudes dictating who gets to use the loo. (Assuming the posters are male - which I’ll get cancelled for!) 
 

The whole thing about it being some guy ‘dressed up’ to sneak into female toilets is nonsense. Some length to go to, buy a ticket - go to the game ‘dressed up’ - cant imagine they would be welcome in the stands with some of the comments in the thread never mind make it to the toilets.  Now I get their is a risk of it happening, but there is also a risk when your laddy nips away for a piss. 

The same happened with gay folk back in the day - guys scared they’re gonna get bummed. 
 

Most bars these days have unisex toilets - and it’s normal in many places across the world. I’m not gonna say I fully understand why some people are trans etc - but I’ve worked with trans people and know some socially and never had any issues with any of them. 
 

All this kind of chat is why people drag our clubs name into chats about equality and racism - And some fans wonder why. Lets catch up with the times and show that the club actually is for everyone and anyone and not exclusively for people who are white Protestant.  

29 minutes ago, Charloch said:

Being anti-women and pro-fascism wouldn’t be a good look.

Then why do you want the club to send this message out? 

7 hours ago, Charloch said:

I've asked the Supporter Liaison Officer to clarify the following with respect to Rangers Diversity and Inclusion Charter:

 

•    Can you inform me how Rangers intend to implement the strategy with respect to trans status people without impinging in any way on the sex-based rights of female supporters? 
•    Can you confirm what Rangers’ position is with respect to Black Lives Matters? BLM as an organisation asserts that all white persons by virtue of their ethnicity and their ethnicity alone are guilty of racism. This is itself self-evidently a racist proposition. Consequently, BLM must fall necessarily outside of the terms and scope of Rangers’ own DIC. 

Lol wtf. Everyone was having a go at that supporter at the BLM rally in Glasgow for bringing our name in to that arena - now you want the club to just out the blue come out and say their views don’t align with BLM!? 
 

What are you wanting to hear in regards to the clubs views on racism? 
 

The toilet situation - how would you as a customer prefer it / be comfortable with it? 
 

1 hour ago, The Tin Man said:

Quite liked Polster as it goes. Don’t think he did too much wrong when he got the nod but never really set the heather on fire either. £300k’s probably aboot bob on. Good luck to the fella

Aye same. I always thought he had a great attitude and he seemed to enjoy being part of the set up and being in Scotland. Shame it didn't work out for him. 

17 minutes ago, ian1964 said:

 

His Mrs is staying though right!? 

3 hours ago, Stevie - 4lads Blog said:

*4ladshadadream interview 

My bad!

In the heart and hand interview he says there will be 200,000 units available on the 1st Aug and hoping to shift 500k in total. 

That would be amazing if we can shift that amount. 

Another loan move will be good for his development. Motherwell should be fighting for 3rd place and getting to the later stages of cup competitions. 

They will have a wee sniff at a few European qualifiers too. 

4 hours ago, Tannochsidebear said:

Sorry, a pre-sale? They are either on sale or they are not. WTF is a pre-sale? Some marketing pish by the sounds of it!

 

I assume Castore were taking money off bears as part of this "pre-sale"? Which then means it was actually "on sale", just with a 31 day delivery time. So when they dont/cant issue the tops for a month, why restrict themselves to 50K is what I wanted to know? Why not just have an unlimited "pre-sale".  If it is because they have only managed to produce 50K, then they deserve some criticism for being so small-minded, surely?

 

It's not that difficult to see 50K was never going to satisfy our demand. We have sold over 40,000 season tickets at about £500 a go for games that we wont be able to attend. With that lunacy, (sorry I mean loyalty!) then a new top that is not controlled by Ashley was always going to be of huge interest to Rangers fans across the globe.

I don't get what your issue is with this. Shirts go on general public sale on August 1st in our revamped store which opens on the same day . It will also be available in other high street retailers.  

We had a pre sale with 50,000 units. It's drums up even more interest. Gives some folk a bit of breathing room after paying for a season book. 

Yes it's some sort of marketing pish - and it's marketing that's gonna make us millions. The board and castore are not underestimating the fan base or the demand. 

The cash is coming just be patient. 

Aye it's just presale just now. 50,000 is a decent enough presale and makes it seem more exclusive and appealing to people who may not buy one usually.

Leicester between 2011-16 sold on average 50,000 shirts world wide per year. Everton 80,000 during the same period. 

We could easily sell another 100,000 home tops when they go on sale. Then atleast 50,000 away and third kit tops then all the castore training gear / hoodies ect. This is going to be a very lucrative deal for all invovled. 

Castore saying in the times that it's pretty much sold out. 

How many kits are we expected to sell? Had a Google and seen last season we sold more tops than any other Scottish team but didn't give any figures. 

I found a world top 10 list with AC Milan in at 10th place with around 650k kits sold. 

Given the demand for the home kit so far and two more kits due out we could be looking at around 2/300k units!? 

I thought he was taking Murty's spot. Good luck to him! 

Being linked with Svov Olsen via the Italian media. Arrived at Bolongna in a £5.5m deal but hasn't really got going - only 20 or so. Seems highly rated and had a great season in the Danish top flight. 

Right winger. His stats according to wiki 

This seems to be it. Launch on Wed. 

A loan with option to buy - wishful thinking is that we keep Alfredo another season with someone like Roofe as our 2nd choice with the view they take over from Alfredo the following season. 

Has kamberi been training with us since being back? 

I seen him in town the day they went back to training.

Still think if it's £150k  we should be taking him. He looked hungry to play for the jersey and would offer a decent return should he be sold on. 

Any word on how much this is worth? or what the last one was worth? 

Same with the UNIBET / 32red with it now being UNIBET are we getting more cash? or is it an existing deal just with the sister company branding?  

Dykes has started following all our players and staff on social media. 

Also noticed Alfredo on social media - he doesn't mention us in the bio and wearing his national shirt in the display pics has that always been the case?