26th of foot

36 minutes ago, Pedrito said:

Was going to report this post but didn't want to be a grass.....

Almost half a century past at Uni' we had a choice of three Rizla wrapped substances : Red Leb', Pakistani Black and, Temple Ball.

These days, I suspect Philippe is a Temple Bauld man?

Ah, the excitement of sitting down with your glass of Tree Top and a Wagon Wheel immediately before, 'Herge's Adventures of Clement'.

Moules et Frites Loyal RSC.

A few points to add to the fray of discussion.

Sellik raised serious monies with their fourth share issue. It was this one that attracted the Dermot Desmond types. The fourth issue was a preferential share issue, I believe they continue to pay an annual dividend to this day? The last occasion I saw these shares mentioned in the media was MON's parting gift being a tranche of preferential shares.

Wullie Haughey made a killing out of the M74 extension. When Scottish Labour announced the intension to link the motorway from Calderpark to the M8 at Kingston, the party's biggest donor in Scotland, Wullie Haughey had already bought up large tracks of land on the proposed route. He paid somewhere around £600,000 and received in excess of £11 million in compulsory purchase compensation.

The Dalmarnock streets immediately south of London Road ie Kinnear Road, Buddon Street, Patna Street, Gailes Street, Troon Street, ........ etc were also condemned and demolished 24 years past. The District Council deliberately depopulated the area both north and south of the arterial road thus, the listed London Road Primary School was no longer needed. It was closed 20 years ago and Sellik successfully applied to the Planning Committee to demolish the Edwardian listed building and build a staff car park. Literally, it is, 'the Sellik Way'.

Reference the land, there was a railway line running parallel with the then Sellik car park adjacent to Kerrydale Street. A bridge spanned London Road carrying the line. The pylon line ran parallel with the railway line, there was a pylon in the middle of the car park, allowing the line to dog leg into Barrowfield. I imagine British Rail would have owned that strip of land and bridge? The bridge was demolished, the pylon line re-routed and, the land containinh north of London Road is contained within the Celtic Park footprint.

It had to Happen(by proxy).

Six days after the Hamas raid and the Green Brigade's reaction to it, PQ has finally acknowledged it occurred by proxy. Today's third story on their Scottish football website is entitled, 'Gossip' and, it contains a sub headline -'Abada urged to quit Celtic over Palestine'. Click on it and it reads, "Celtic winger Liel Abada, who has been critical of the Celtic fans group's support for Palestine and has been offered support by the club hierarchy, has been urged to quit the Scottish champions by Israel team-mate, Dolev Haziza". Another link is provided for the Daily Record story.

This is akin to RAB Cosgrove and Tam the Token constantly saying, "we want to hear from Rangers supporters". The last thing they want is to hear from Rangers supporters but by utilising this particular refrain, they are ticking the box for balance. Similarly, a one line hidden behind a 'Gossip' link allows BBC Scotland to say they covered the story. Once again, the PQ CSC prove they know how to play the long game. Certainly, they know and value the benefits to be reaped by playing it cute, by proxy.

A couple of years before Fergus McCann showed any interest in purchasing Sellik, the then Glasgow District Council increased Sellik's land bank significantly for the sum of one penny. 

Glasgow District Council in 1990/91 had 102 wards, 90 of the Councillors were Labour Party representatives. The other dozen were a mixture of Nationalists, Liberals and, Tories. The GDC Planning Committee had 13 members, 11 Labour, one SNP and, one Tory. The Housing Committee had already taken the decision to NOT renovate the council owned housing in three streets immediately surrounding Sellik Park and condemned the houses. Those streets were Janefield Street, Kinloch Street and, Dalriada Street; approximately 250 families occupied the housing concerned. 

The Council agreed resettlement grants should be paid to the families, average payment between £4,000-£5,000. The Council would meet the costs of demolition and land clearance, the cost to the public purse was estimated at £2.5 million. The Planning Committee agreed the ground should be sold to the sole applicant, Sellik. The vote was 11-2. Both the SNP and Tory Councillors issued a statement stating several of the Councillors were Sellik supporters and, compared the sale to ICI acquiring ground for a peppercorn rate when the majority taking the decision were ICI share holders.

It took a few months but, the GDC Convenor, Pat Lally was forced into calling a full Council meeting to ratify the sale of three streets for a penny. A full day's debate ensued and a vote was called after the Labour Party installed a three line whip. The sale was approved by a majority of 70. 

Let that sink in.

Almost concurrently, Rangers had an agreement in place to purchase St Anthony's ground adjacent to the wee Rangers Club. The intent was to preserve the Ibrox playing surface. Planning application was submitted for an initial 2,500 all seated stadium, later rising to 4,000 and, the ground would be called, 'Struth Stadium'. The club's Reserves and Youth teams were to play at the ground. The Ants were content, future secured and no objections were lodged. It took over a year for the Planning Committee to refuse the application, citing the proximity to the Airport. The ground was ring fenced as part of the industrial estate for future applications.

The Herald was still an excellent newspaper in those days and covered these stories in detail. Anyone interested, go into the Mitchell Library and request to view the relevant copies from 30 plus years past.

5 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

I'm sure that we have had this conversation before but:

 

When Azure was set up, Murray owned 70%. In its 3rd year of trading, its turnover was £4.4m and losses were £28K.

 

Azure was sold in 2004 to Eliance Events Ltd, a joint venture between Elior (51%) and Murray (49%). Its losses to date at that point were £2.2m.

 

in 2005 and 2006 Azure's turnover was around £14m but they made losses of over £600K in both years.

 

In 2008, Murray sold out his shares to Elior.

 

As for the "For every pound he injected into the club after 1998, he took in excess of £11 out" we had to pay someone for the services and why not a Murray company? Easier to control. How much of that £11 was pure profit? Unknown but it could have been £1.50-£2.00, or even less.

 

The big unknown is whether the services that the Murray companies doing so at market value? Was there a competitive tendering system?

 

There's a lot to criticise Murray for but we should make sure we're making the correct arguments.

 

Bluedell,

It is in excess of twenty years and my memory is not what it used to be; however, I remember Azure was the idea of a female employee who was rewarded with 5% of Azure equity. Maybe the figures I quoted were from the sixth year extrapolation?

Reference Elior, it was based in Nice, France. Murray bought a property and vineyard in the hills north of the town. A number of those leeching companies were also transferred to Elior including Primus and his Ayrshire based Vintners. The perceived wisdom was Murray owned Elior.

The final piece of the jigsaw was when Martin Bain bought the bijou vineyard next to Murray's; again, the perceived wisdom being it was a reward for the Boumsong deal.

After one of the Charlotte Square meetings with Murray, I was a recipient of a bottle of robust red from Sir David. I passed it to Malcolm.

9 minutes ago, Bill said:

I've tried to remember what it was back in 1997 or 1998 that signalled a change in Murray's attitude to Rangers ... but it's now lost to me. Whatever it was I do remember thinking Murray had become a liability rather than the asset he undoubtedly had been. Maybe he just grew bored with the kudos of owning Rangers. The reckless spending that came with Advocaat's arrival was the clearest indication he was on a course to destroy Rangers and when he couldn't find a buyer, the inevitable was locked in. That he continued to receive blind support right up to the end should be a lasting memorial to the dangers of group think.

Murray was/is a gambler.

He is a product of his conditioning, his old man was a professional gambler.

59 minutes ago, SykseyBear said:

I can't believe 27 people on here voted for him not to get sacked. WTF is wrong with our support. 

Ah, attempting to provide leadership to the Rangers support. You would be better attempting to herd cats.

Democracy, down with that sort of thing.

4 minutes ago, ian1964 said:

 

As Plastic sang, "Ca Plane pour moi".

10 minutes ago, Thinker said:

I'd like to express doubt over both so that if either one turns out badly Ill be able to act wise after the event.

 

(Which is to say, I don't have a Scooby.)

A most Auguste(Rodin) thought.

If we are running with this Antipodean vibe.

I insist we secure the services of Ned Kelly. He brings full body armour and a steel helmet, he will need it.

10 hours ago, Bluedell said:

Apparently my source was talking crap. Apologies. I posted in good faith. Sorry again. 

I went to bed last evening content the club may have chosen the right man. I wake up to the above.

Take away his abacus, a Bean Counter in Newton Mortgage without his favoured comfort toy is akin to a native American condemned to wander between the winds for eternity.

DJ made his debut against Cowdenbeath at Ibrox, scoring twice in a 5-0 victory. I believe he was 16.

Zak Lovelace made his debut against Queen of the South at Ibrox. I believe he was 16.

Bailey Rice made his debut away to Livi'. I believe he was 16.

Derek Ferguson made his debut in Tom Forsyth's testimonial match at Ibrox. I believe he was 15.

The only other one I can think that may be a challenger is Alex O'Hara. I believe he was 16 when he made his debut against Borussia Monchengladbach at Ibrox in a 3-2 victory.

In the second half, feed McCausland continually.

Against St Mirren's ten men, allow the young winger free range.

Sub' Goldson at half time, do not give the Ref' an opportunity to even up the numbers.

Connor could do with the rest and it allows Soutar to play on his preferred side.

St Mirren 1 Rangers 2

FGS : Lovelace.

After considerable thought, I would go for :

McCloy, Jardine, Smith, Johnstone, Mathieson, Greig, Conn, MacDonald, McLean, Stein and, Johnston.

I think they could take St Boo 3-2.

A plucky Belgian like Tintin.

Just what we need.

4 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

@26th of foot has launched a milan missile left over from his old job at the unanimous vote. 
 

A fair and even minded moderator is entitled to discard 26th’s vote for McAusland because he did not play the whole match. A substitute must play more than sixty minutes or do something exceptional in a shorter time to be eligible.

 

Either that or just retrospectively ban the bamstick.

Leadership can be a most lonely place.

The Milan missile is a most apt analogy, it flew for 14 seconds exhibiting a most distinctive signature as the solid propellent burnt off.

32 minutes ago, Rousseau said:

@26th of foot! WHY?!

 

The mythical unanimous vote...

 

Well, I could give you the, .................. after enacting the process of objective appreciation, weighing up both advantages and disadvantages and, arriving at a conclusion ....................... 

However, I admit I am in a mood, the club from Board down is a shambles.

McAusland was on for ten minutes, made three runs, set up a chance and won two corners. He contributed more than most wearing that God awful fourth strip.

Interesting to see the Northern Irish lad, McAusland on the bench.

I have seen him a dozen times in various youth and Rangers B games and he has a bit, could provide much needed width?

Aris Limassol 2 Rangers 2

FGS : Dessers.