maineflyer
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Which is really the only thing that has any bearing on the future. You shouldn't feel that criticism of Smith is in any way seeking to detract from what he has undoubtedly achieved in the past. It is simply a belief about what he is doing now and where he is likely to take us in the future.
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Since the turn of the century, 2 out of the last 9 trophies = 22.2% 9 out of the last 24 trophies = 37.5% 2 out of the last 8 titles = 25% He might want Rangers to be successful but the real issue is whether he is capable of delivering it. Which, increasingly, he is not. Which isn't something to laugh at.
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Well, you may be right. I just don't think Smith is at the stage of his career where he is capable of fundamental change. Since we all apparently agree there needs to be a change to his negative tactics on the field of play, let's see if this starts against Falkirk on Saturday and continues thereafter. If, as I suspect, he continues with the dreadful negative approach of the last season, we might all be able to agree he should go. And since it will take him another couple of seasons and a bucket of money to change out his playing staff to allow a different style of play, the outcome seems inevitable. More than anything, I see Smith as incapable of developing new young talent and being able to trust himself to bring them into the first team. His track record in this respect is appalling and this is something we desperately need to be able to do.
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Which is why so many of are now feeling so resigned to failure ahead. Despite the wishful thinking of some, this hole is particularly deep and, as you say, there are no more ladders left.
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I think we all know it's amongst the worst in he modern era. All clubs experience these low points from time to time, the issue is understanding why they happened and doing something to address these causes.
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Basically, what you're saying is that as long as you do some good in the past, failure in the present should be forgiven. You also appear to base your arguement on a belief that Walter Smith will in fact turn this mess around in the future - without providing any reasons for this belief - other than Walter once did something you quite liked. Hell, you even appear to think Le Guen deserved more time, which in light of his achievements at Ibrox is bordering on the perverse. Then, amazingly, you try to suggest that sacking Walter is unacceptable because it would bolster Murray's position. Actually, I think you're just finding it hard to face up to difficult decisions. Walter isn't someone who just arrived at Ibrox. The players in the team today are Walter's pick. The tactics we have been employing are Walter's tactics. The backroom staff and the way they prepare this team are Walter's staff. If a year and a half down the line the best we can do is what we all witnessed on Tuesday, then I think it's fair to say that Walter has not only had the time you think fairness demands but that he has singularly failed in his task. There then only remains the price of that failure and more time shouldn't be part of the severance package.
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Failure demands its own reward and it's time Smith got what he richly deserves. Tuesday evening showed us all exactly what state the team is in. We all saw it, there was no ambiguity and no doubt how bad we were. Given the stark clarity of the situation, given the absence of doubt, is it not right that someone should assume responsibility? That someone being the manager. The question for me is this. If Walter Smith is man enough to sit in Bill Struth's chair, is he also man enough to accept the consequences of the responsibility he bears and resign now? Or is he just another part of Murray's world where you are free to say one thing and do another.
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Doesn't make sense. You're seriously blaming boo boys (whatever that means) for that display last night? They're to blame for the senseless signing of three forwards when we desperately needed midfielders? They're the reason why Smith admitted after the match that he could see it coming? There must be a hell of a lot of booing is all I can say. Time to get real bud and extract the head from the sand.
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Nah, it started several days ago. I don't think anyone is believing it, just suggesting it could be true. Which it could. The �£12m is because they ain't the only club interested.
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And I agree with you.
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It doesn't matter what is discussed. No one will be at liberty to inform any of us anyway. What we do hear will what they selectively want us to hear. It has always been like that, particularly from bodies like the RST which must be one of the most pointless, under-achieving organisations ever to emerge in the strange and duplicitous world of New Rangers. The RSA will be no different, those "running" it want enough from David Murray to make it certain they will never cross him. And so it goes on.
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Which is why I said their cold dead bodies would already be adorning a spike in George Square if there was any justice still left in this country.
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When you think about Smith's role in last night's debacle ........ He selects who we sign. He choses who plays in the team. He decides the tactics we use. He is responsible for motivation and discipline. He is responsible for preparation and fitness. He is responsible for the selection and actions of the entire backroom staff. He takes final responsibility for performance and results. I think there are plenty of reasons for laying blame at Smith's door. At least five of the players should just be taken out and shot. You might think five is too few.
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We need a good start to the domestic season - yes, but we're not going to get it. Smith has as much chance of stopping celtic winning their fourth title in a row as I have of waking up on Mars tomorrow morning. What good does it do to persist with smith for another season, only for someone new to come in and have to start a year later than he needs to.
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He could have spend more time focussing on the architect of last night's shambles. How is it that Smith gets off so lightly?
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Frankly, the last thing we needed was someone to chase crisp packets around the park. I know plenty of people who can run but none of them would solve Rangers' problems. He will make no better contribution than those we already had on the books but he has deprived us of a couple of million pounds and a huge wage bill. His "ability" to run all day is being lauded as some kind of virtue - why is this? I watched Sebo do exactly the same thing and it was pointless then but at least Smith didn't have to shell out new money for him. If Jeffers or Ostenstad had speed and stamina, they would have been called Kenny Miller. Smith was well warned but his arrogance made him do it anyway. It was a big mistake and there is little to be gained from packaging it any other way. We needed so much else in this team. Spending money on Miller and Lafferty was nothing short of incompetence.
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I thought his "performance" after being subbed was considerably better than when he was on the field of play.
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Very serious trouble indeed. This has been coming since Advocaat left. McLeish took a job that a more established manager would have left alone (cf Alex Ferguson, Jim McLean in the 1980's). The appointment of PLG was ciminally ill-conceived and only Walter Smith would ever have taken on Murray's poisoned chalice. But many of us knew from day one that the chances of Smith redeeming the situation were very slim and here we are at last, marooned without a paddle in sight. Only the stupidity and disinterest of the many nodding dogs and performing seals in the seats at Ibrox allow Murray to continue to operate this shambles with impunity. It's time for the daft wee boys to shut up and the commited supporter to find his/her voice again.
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Jol looks to me like the Dutch equivalent of WS. Spends lots of money but actually makes little difference. I think even the blind amongst us now see the futility of Smith continuing in the manager's job. He said in a post-match interview that he wasn't entirely surprised by the result, that he could "see it coming" in the previous pre-season performances. Obviously not clearly enough to do anything about it though. Last year's signings are failing badly, this year's signing just don't make any sense at all. Smith is hopelessly lost and needs to go right now. There is no future in this manager and no point whatsoever to prolonging the pain. No point other than the fact it suits Murray to have a weak and compliant manager to deal with.
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When a menager is being asked to drop so many players that he himself signed within the last year, it is a sure sign that the manager is the one who should be dropped.
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Short memory surely. McLeish was perhaps the most clueless manager I've seen. The only things going for him were that he inherited quite a few good players and that he wasn't given the money that many of his counterparts received. However, what money he did get was invariably wasted and his tactics were almost as bad as Smith's.
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Absolutely right. This didn't suddenly happen, it was there to see in almost every game we played after New Year last season.
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It seems that every football commentator in the country is on a mission to elevate Kenny Misser to heroic status. Even when he isn't actually doing anything they are assuring us that he will never complain. will run all night, always gives 100% effort, or some other meaningless twaddle. The question for me is .... why? Why this concerted effort on behalf of a striker who chases crisp bags but doesn't score goals? Why the united front, the prepared party line? Who are they all trying to impress, or protect? Is it Misser himself, or Walter, or who? What I do know is that it is so obviously contrived. I find these little media arrangements quite nauseating. A bit like realising that the dinosaur is still manager, even after tonight when his inadequacies were laid bare for the whole world to see.
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The excuse is now perfect. We won't have CL money so we had no option but to take a prudent financial decision to sell Cuellar.
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I feel genuinely sorry for you.......... never having known this great club before David Murray put his hands round its neck.
