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We are actually quoted on PLUS rather than AIM. PLUS is not as stringent as AIM.

cheers for that i wasn't 100% sure it was aim but had never heard of PLUS

The current market capitalisation is around �£57m, and I don't see the club being worth more than that at the moment.

that seems to be the trouble , Murray owns 91% which equates to roughly �£50 million give or take a couple of hundred grand however what he actually wants is anyones guess , considering he took over as custodian ( his words not mine ) for a price of �£6 million and the club were cash rich at the time it's anyones guess what the greedy bastard really wants

Loss of CL revenue and the effects of having to sell the few decent players to compensate. Who in their right mind would buy Rangers shares now except out of emotional motivation. The tangible asset value of the club has ebbed away. The trading prospects are going down the toilet. The support is increasingly saying we've had enough. You could buy every share available for the next 100 years and you still wouldn't have a fraction of what's required to influence how the club is run. For the same reasons that Murray cannot hope to sell his shareholding and almost no one was prepared to enter into the last great share issue, I wouldn't add to my shareholding if it was the last investment on earth.

sorry but that would not have affected our share price by that much , we are not listed on the ftse but on AIM which is much less unstable , usually a change like that would be due to share s being sold

one thing is for sure , someone is going to have to pay a premium because the share s fell 14 pence to their lowest for a long while , and as they are not widely traded and not subject to the same fluctuations of the ftse something must have happened to cause this down turn

le guen desperatly wanted to sort out the team , it would have taken a strong chairman to back him, murray bottled it , ferguson won we are where we are because murray is drinking at the last chance saloon .

why people cannot accept that the past 20 years have been wasted is beyong me , murray took over when the stadium was rebuilt , the club had money in the bank , a great manager , the england team captain and a purpose . The english were banned from europe and sky tv was not even a distant thought .A few years later they had celtic within 24 hours of going bust , and players of the standard of laudrup and gazza , then the wheels came off the bogey ,murray personally offered salaries way above what was being asked , in some cases agents were not even asking for specific deals they waited on murrays offer ( this I know for a fact ), and we paid the price ,we have been on a downwards spiral ever since whilst our biggest rivals get stronger and stronger , in fact but for two last day wins they would be on course for 7 or 8 in a row , yet some still think murray has done a great job , like i said earlier 20 years and no further forward and not 1 penny of his own money invested in Rangers

down and out , till the current regime leave we will never move forward

Are we not taking about apples and oranges? You are comparing strip sponsorship with merchandising.

 

They get �£5m from Nike. What do we get from Umbro? According to the following link, we get �£6.5M. http://www.eufootball.biz/Sponsorship/1195.html

 

If you read my previous comment, the JJB deal (different from the Umbro deal) is worth in excess of �£5m to us. If we look at Celtic's accounts they had �£13.3m and �£14.3m of income from merchandising over the past 2 years. If you assume a margin of 20% then you will see that they are making between �£2.5m-�£3m.

cheers bluedell , and as far as the worldwide availability of strips , I was in New york and Miami in april and I can guarantee there were no major displays of celtic strips in any Nike store I was in , and I was in plenty , it was the same years ago when we were sponsored by nike we were in Florida and there were no strips available in any of the nike superstores

Because their deal nets them 25M over 5 years, ours is a reported 18M over ten years.

 

We earn 1.8 mill a year and they earn 5M a year,

that is a load of bollocks , sorry but just where do you get your information from , our deal was �£18 million up front plus �£3million per season for 10 years not including bonuses which could take the deal to near �£75 million plus we still own our own licences . The money is guarenteed and we have no overheads , they recently announced that profits would be down as costs increased yet they are still credited with a better deal , unbelievable