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I imagine being on Sky will help a bit when its time to renew. Wee insight into the market here in a FT article from May 2009. Interesting to see that comparisons with the EPL in terms of TV revenue are nowhere near as starkly different when it comes to shirt sponsorship, which is curious. For example Liverpool get �£7m pa, whereas we get �£2.2m at the moment. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/fc60393c-430a-11de-b793-00144feabdc0.html

where do you get celtic's �£7m mate?

Well I'm taking it all back then mate; if its �£13m pa then we are back to square 1. Most recent/original Setanta deal approx �£13.5m pa (paid up until now) Proposed Setanta deal = �£125m or �£31m pa to start end of next season (obviously never got there) New deal �£65m and if over 5 years = �£13m. Opt-out can be seen as a review-point I'd say. So much for SDM's rant the other day then, if thats what we settle for and no OFTV proposals came up. Misleading reporting earlier saying �£65m till end of 2010/11 with two year extension/opt out clause. Effectively counting the extra two-years revenue in the �£65m.

Everywhere its being reported as a 3 year deal mate, specifically to the end of 2011/12. Last week SDM was greetin that our money had gone from �£4m to �£3m to �£2m as per the offer from Sky/ESPN of �£65m over 5 years. If so, RFC and Celtic were sharing approx 30-33% of the entire deal. If thats true, Rangers will now be receiving at least 15% of the annual �£22m which is about �£3.4 - �£3.6m range which considering where we were last week and where we've been is not to bad a turnaround imo. Plus we now have 2 professional partners. Speculating here but, we possibly have a greater share now seeing as it seems that the threat of the OF going it alone has secured the new deal. In return I'd imagine we might have asked for a bigger cut from the smaller clubs seeing as we just hiked the price up. As I posted the other day; if Sky/ESPN wanted the SPL, they'd be back. And thats exactly what's happened.

what a waste of finger skin this thread was see you chick, ya wee dick.

Why mate, whats the problem?

Interesting mate. I might be coming across as a negative, but its purely down to having no information. Presumably the clubs have all the numbers and they'll only go for it if they are confident and have margin for error. Just on the subs numbers; I believe 400k is very very very optimistic. Setanta had 1.2m subs, but their range of sport was becoming quite spectacular, including US golf and EPL and such like. Thinking that OF fans formed a third of their subs base is wild IMHO. Incidentally, Sky's subs base in Scotland is proportionately lower per capita than in England as there is less disposable income here (especially in Glasgow), along with other demographic factors. You might also be interested to find out that when the OF were last on Sky as PPV (maybe 3-4 years ago) there were in the region of 15k 'buys' for the event. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the SPL meeting today

Depends on the distribution & re-selling model mate, as well as the costs. Unless there is scope for big big upsides to the Sky/ESPN deal I think it's complicated and risky. Someone needs to manage sales, marketing, production, broadcasting, distribution, billing and customer service for a pay-tv operation. Not cheap and not easy. Presumably all of that would be out-sourced as we have no particular expertise in this field beyond selling match/season tickets. I particularly don't like the fact that if it goes ahead we will be rushing into it. We have got things quite badly wrong in the past, JJB, Admiral, Buy-Direct etc..... Basically there is virtually no information about how it would work so it's difficult to take a view on it.

I don't necessarily agree with that tbh. I've lived in England and it was a 5 hour drive for me and personally I was totally fine with that, and I would live down south again. But it does amaze me how people shunt their KIDS around the place; some footballers moving every year or two. I know they can afford good education but kids need stability too and some of them can't really get the chance to build friendships etc. Having said that, living in great places, big cities etc can be an influential experience for children and can open their eyes to the world so that's a plus point. Basically I think it's all down to the individuals and its not fair to judge either way.

"I don't mind who wins the bid as long as it gives us more money and no-one in Scottish football can afford to say no to that". ........ St. Mirren chairman.

�£1m in and a rumoured �£1.5m in wages off the books without significantly weakening the team. Makes sense for everybody and hopefully BF will be able to shine on the big stage.

Good work MF and the VB. Let's be honest, people giving British troops a hard time on British streets because of Irish Republican sympathies know exactly what they're doing and what sort of reaction they'll get.

I cant see Bougie going tbh. Murray has said QUITE CLEARLY that our best players dont need to go. Also I cant see us getting a �£4-5m bid for him so I cant see the circumstances arising. maybe if he plays well in the CL or something but he's had virtually no exposue last season outside of the SPL so why he would start attracting large bids is a mystery.

Really? Never knew that. My ex said the same thing about here arse.

Dear oh dear that is all just depressing. Poor guy.

Chick's oot a job

probably organises them on a scrabble board and points to it

I cant see any point in hanging onto a guy who has basically never played.

Good post mate. I agree and thats why I've remained largely on his side for so long, because I know what he's contributed to RFC since he was a young lad.

Yeah, Walter types the messages himself, I'm sure of that.

Now that we see things stepping up a gear, let me ask you about this; In a previous job I worked with a big media company. Their head of corporate comms was really progressive about blogging etc and was taking bold initiatives by advocating that company employees get active on messageboards etc, explaining the company's decisions and actions etc. They would post announcements on Digital Spy about upcoming releases and design changes to their front-end etc, and people left feedback, questions, criticism, praise and so on. It's still on the go and its excellent and the company genuinely took things on board and worked on them. Could this work for Rangers?

true Nothing wrong with more communication actually, its really good.

Walter, you are starting to get on my tits now.

I dont have any grudges about the Blackburn thing, none at all. I believe BF worked behind the scenes to undermine PLG. Maybe it was the right thing to do though, so 50/50 on that, mixed feelings. The Scotland thing was a complete joke. Embarrassing. If you put these 3 events on a graph........

Are you referring to Tevez's face?