Norris Cole

This. Managing Rangers in 2016 is a bit like trying to run the 100m with your legs tied together. After McCoist, you can at least see that Warburton has a vision. Where I would criticise him is I think he had rather a poor transfer window in the summer. But so have the best managers in the game. I think Warburton has shown enough forward thinking to merit a bit of patience from the most impatient fans in world football. Alternatively you could think back to how we set up under McCoist. I think we're reaching a stage where questions will begin to be asked of the size of King's wallet.

They'll start selling it here in a month. Be prepared for some amount of pish then. Windass and Halliday are a cut above the rest of the players IMO, based on nothing other than what I've seen this season. Just to put football forums in perspective, Windass has been given a 2 and a 7 just on this thread.

Interesting what you say about Wallace. I wonder what would happen if MW threw the armband to Halliday?

Not since 2013 according to these pages.

Klopp's a difficult guy to dislike. He's like the cool uncle who'll give you a swatch of his porno mags and a sip of his beer without telling your dad.

Something's gone wrong with him and I don't know what it is. For a decade the guy was unstoppable, but that's been a few years now where everything he touches goes to sh*t. Peculiar. One or two more dodgy seasons and there'll be severe reputational damage.

Disagree on Windass. My issue with him is that, along with most of the summer signings, he doesn't appear to have the fitness required. But there is no way he was the worst player today, on the contrary he was one of the few bright spots IMO. And at Parkhead he was again one of very few with pass marks. I like him. McKay, as previously stated, needs a prolonged period out of the team. He'll be back, but he needs taken out of the team right now.

That would have been his debut in the 2001/02 season, when he came on as a sub at home to Kilmarnock for his debut. One of only two times I've ever seen a Rangers scorer's name and thought, sorry who? The other was Fabrice Fernandes.

Wait a minute, you accuse me on another thread of being negative, but you give Windass 4/10?

This has been said in the past, yes. However, I will not have a word said against the bold Norris.

I remember being at Ibrox for a League Cup tie against St Johnstone in 2003 and thinking we'd found the new Baxter. You win some, you lose some. I wish him all the best, like I say, a guy I always willed to make a career for himself at Rangers. As you say, he made a decent career for himself, I just hoped for so much more when he broke through.

It came across magnificently on the telly.

Re. Windass, I am clearly seeing a different player to some fans. A fit Josh Windass would be in my team more often than not.

With regard to guys like Crooks, Rossiter, Krancjar, Windass; do the guys who do medicals before we sign players need to up their game? I'll give them their due for dodging the Lescott bullet, but three months into the season we seem to have a stack of players who just can't achieve match fitness.

Windass 4/10 Can we not all at least agree that Gilks was MOTM?

Chris mother*cking Burke! Is that where he is now? There was a time when I thought he'd be a player for us. He seemed to rub Rangers fans up the wrong way but he was a player I always wanted to do well for us.

To be fair, the sh*te we've been through, we're doing well to turn up never mind make noise.

Ha ha, this thread can't even see consensus, consensus is in some far-off tropical tundra region.

I see we've also lost Wija, the cantankerous bugger

Chelsea 4-0 Man Utd Oh dear, what happened there? Early days, but that's a bit of a bottleneck at the top of the EPL.

Let's be honest, some Rangers fans are no angels. But this sort of sh*t is perpetrated by animals who will continue to carry out such acts with no repercussion thanks to the sinister appeasement of the powers that be in today's Scotland. There will be nothing about this in tomorrow's press, and we all know why. I hope the boy's ok, that would have traumatised me at that age. Still, we did damage their toilets. And as one online Celtic fan said, Ryan Baird's death was of course karma for said damage.

Disgraceful. For all the hype surrounding the OF, it's a Scottish football match. Surely the trade descriptions act could have a field day with that.

I'm always a bit wary when it comes to the Europe obsession. Sure, I love European nights as much as the next man, I was there in Manchester and the result felt like a death in the family. But for all the talk about Europe being the be all and end all, it wasn't so long ago that we sold out Ibrox for a meaningless friendly against Chelsea, and then a few days later only about 25,000 bothered their arse to come back for the CL qualifier v Malmö (or in other words, the most important game of the season).

Are they charging over 40 quid for OF games now? Jesus. An earlier poster was pretty spot on - if a neutral was watching that game today they would just think it was two sh*te teams.

Interesting. As I said earlier, a true judgement on Warburton can come when he's finally had the chance to play Celtic at Ibrox. For what it's worth, I thought that while clearly an inferior team and while not disagreeing with the end result, we gave Celtic a game today and it could quite conceivably have been us who sneaked a goal in the last minute. There were long spells today when it was genuinely end-to-end. Can you ever walk away from a 5-1 defeat and say you gave the opposition a game? Thinking back to that game, some of the players showed the heart of a mouse, I'll call out Barton for starters. At least today we did pretty much all we could conceivably do with the quality (or lack thereof) at our disposal against a team with an obscene financial disparity in their playing squad. There was no lack of effort today. I said before the game that Celtic v Rangers in 2016 is equatable to Celtic v Motherwell/St Johnstone/Hibs in 2006. That's just where we are. So all things considered, yes, Warburton has at least some justification in claiming we got closer to them today. But we all know we're still a few years from where we all want to be. Or if you're a glass half full type, two or three transfer windows. King needs to open his wallet and Warburton needs to up his game in the transfer market. And just as importantly, these are the "days of failure" of which the great Bill Struth spoke, so let's show some "tolerance and sanity" and get right behind the team.