wabashcannonball

Simple question and still unanswered, one that explains the whole fiasco...... why, if they did indeed change their stance on matters, did the auditors do so, also has the rst not had a CA on the board for several months, if so what is and was that CA's take on the matter.

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PS...how others see things....

Grandmaster_Suck

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Re: Trust statement

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Originally Posted by forlanssister

Ok i'll bite and mention the elephant in the room.

Would it not be for the greater good of the RST as a whole,and it's long term aims, if the Dingwall chap to resign from the board?

*prepares to be thrashed with the banning stick*

It's juvenile to tie your arguement to martyrdom.

I have of course considered that course whilst the Trust Board was under the lash of Mr Harris's assorted threats to wreak havoc. However, giving into such dishonesty would not have been decent and it would have been deserting my colleagues who would have still had to cope with his behaviour.

If it is a public "fuck you" then it's as appropriate and useful as all the studied comment. However, that was clearly a reactionary comment from someone struggling to maintain his own pretence.

 

If I'm honest, as someone else wrote recently, I feel Alan Harris has simply tried to conduct himself in a very professional manner. The FSA are currently going well beyond previous authorisations and looking at everyone working within the financial services industry and reviewing, among everything else, personal & professional conduct. They're being very strict, and there isn't a day that goes past where people are not being notified by industry publications that a certain company or persons are being reviewed, investigated, fined or banned.

 

He's clearly had no shortage of both reason and excuse to do what he's done. Maybe we should just respect his intentions and accept he has given up much and gained nothing from this exercise....unlike certain other RST headline acts who have recently published mere gossip for nothing other than personal gain....and unlike many others who compromise themselves with silence.

As long as you aint a fuk faced fat greedy banker bastardo, raping the public as a customer and a taxpayer, come the glorious day, them fuks will be the first against the wa'.....

If we had moved to the EPL at the turn of the century, then given the financial profligacy and our general stewardship since then, it would be no surprise if we had ended up in a Portsmouth type scenario.

 

Lets not forget that both Chelsea and Man City were struggling in mountainous debts until their sugar daddies arrived.

And still are, despite the sugar daddies.

Yeah, just go back to the football rbr:spl: For information, with last year's AGM notice we sent out a skills audit where we asked members to volunteer and said that we were looking for particular skills, one being accountancy. This was also placed on our website. Although we got a fairly good response, we didn't get anyone with an accountancy qualification. We tried to get several others onboard but all were too busy to commit time. Mark was aware of AM as he knew her many years ago and had met up with her again as she started attending some RST functions. She was not invited onto the Board as treasurer, she has been on the board for several months and was obviously the ideal candidate to take over.

Well I can play the moothie and the spoons, the spoons would be useful fer stirring it, would these specialist skills be of use...:fish:

Quite often both sides contradict each other - hence the truth may lie somewhere in the middle. That happens in the real world too.

I was told once by a famous Glasgow Rabbi, "there is only truth all else is untruth", it has served me well through the years, death is absolute, just like life and truth.

As an aside, you must be as old as me. I loved that song.:spl:

I thought it was rather apt, since we are all going round in circles (well some are) asking questions but failing to find answers. I was old in 1970. ,,,,,,,,,, so let's go round again... if only our fitba' players were as talented...

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There's two sides to a story and each side tends to tell their own biased version.

Two sides no middle ...in the real world..

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Never you mind who I am, it doesnt make any difference . I was just saying that I think your point was rubbish, not that you are rubbish or prone to rubbish.

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Frankie, Alan did have the chance to speak at the AGM - he was the secratary and board member - that's a powerful position to air his objections to any issue he had. Any AGM I've ever attended ( which is a a lot) anyone in attendance has the right to free speech.

 

Yes, the Trust needs to improve and the sole representative on here knows that. It will never improve though due to all name calling by some and what I perceive as a smear campaign against certain board members. I don't know any of them personally but I do know, as you've already stated, the truth somewhere in the middle.

 

Alan could have waited until legal advice had shown that although mistakes were made, The Trust had acted lawfuly.

 

I've said it, you have said it and many others have said it, the trust needs a forum to engage with it's members and prospective members. Only then will we see better ideas put the board and debated in an adult-mature-like fashion.

What's with the truth somewhere in the middle pish, it's either true or it isn't, it's a bit like a little bit dead... and both sides cannot be right.... go on somebody tell us they could be.......

Wabash, I had to edit out some of your little smileys as they'd made the site go skee wiff and I'm still to sober to be able to read sqwinty.

zats awrite am pished anyhows....

rst........

We or rather the english are on the road to ruin........the danger is that they may suck us into their house of cards, with promises of untold riches, which is in truth crippling debt. The warning signs are there for all to see.

They will need us.... the Old Firm.... more than we will need them.

Manchester City have swept past Manchester United in the pay league for players, the club's annual report revealed.

The figures also show details of City's astonishing spending spree on players and salaries which have led to record losses of �£121.3million. Although City's turnover increased by 40% to �£125m this has been swamped by total salary costs of �£133.3m, a �£50m rise on a year ago.

That puts City - bankrolled by Abu Dhabi-based owner Sheikh Mansour - ahead of United, whose wage bill is �£123m, and Arsenal (�£110m) and closing in fast on Chelsea (�£142m).

City chief executive Garry Cook said the losses "should come as no surprise" but that the club would now scale back on new signings.

The trust should be fekked ower the heid wi' a large mallet, we can then enjoy the fitba....

I doubt that would be particularly comfortable......

Nah, it will be easy....at least one of them is a slippery geezer....

:spl:

I will happily take lessons

I'll see if I can fit you in between Frankie and Grandmastersuck...........:box:

How many warnings do folk get then? because in my few days here I have seen you get torn into people regularly with personal insults.

 

 

Actually, dont bother.

 

At least I can find the 'ignore' function on FF, makes things so much easier.

 

 

Appologies in public for the personal insults. It was a moment of weakness and will not happen again.

ave hud hunners, you'll be owertakin me at this rate, you must deliver your insult with the required degree of disdain and opprobrium...:fish:

Jings calamity Jane..##

One of the RST Boardââ?¬â?¢s leading lights stated one yesterday afternoon on Ã?£Ã?£.......... ââ?¬Å?The Trust and a backer were in talks. Talks became very positive and a document was submitted to the bank. It found it's way from there to the club and then was leaked. Someone at the club leaked it to damage the whole process, then ordered a three day media spin about how it couldn't work.ââ?¬Â

He's a card that Minty so he is, he wisny born yesterday...

Nah, thats the wan where the goalposts are moved to suit, usually to a grey area created by the grey suits..... wunner if Bluedell is gonny spill the beans...

I've already privately pointed out to the RST auditor why the accounts were wrong...and it was nothing to do with any of the issues under debate.

They wiz Masonic auditors that's ok then... cover yir work at all times... even in private.. :fish:

dont know them so cant judge. As i said, UK GAAP (and IFRS) is rules based to open to interpretation. Their opinion obviously differs from mine - but not everything is black and white.

You will be telling me next that there is no such thing as a simple difference between right and wrong, thankfully the great majority of people are not so easily fooled, i.e. right is right and proper, wrong is just plain wrong to the extent of in many cases being illegal...but the wordsmiths like to inhabit their own little world, where all is safe and grey..:box:

Just to make clear, this is RST business not RSA....

sorted that....

Just a question, do you have an agenda/bias towards the RSA.

RSA...?????.... you mean the RSA that released a statement beginning........

CLUB OWNERSHIP

Andrew Ellis has held talks with Donald Muir and with Sir David Murray and has provided proof of funds. However, the Chairman indicated that the Board has, as yet, received no firm details of the Ellis proposals or indeed had any discussion with him.

You can see the contradiction...or incompetence ?

Agendas are like opinions and arseholes........just depends how big and how open....

That appears to be the crux of the matter BH,...... to the rank and file all we have to go on is speculation.... a very good reason why the rst should be liquidated, certainly one way of drawing a line under the "speculation".

I said I wasn't going to answer any more questions on these threads but as I created this new thread and since this is not directly related to the accounts or my resignation and is in no way privileged information, I can say that the Management Executive Committe (MEC) was formed in February 2010 with a remit approved by the full Board principally to deliver the agreed action of the Board between Board meetings.

 

The members were Gordon Dinnie, Vice Chair, myself as Secretary, Mark Dingwall, Gordon Stewart, Kenny park and Andrew McIntyre.

 

It met on 10 occasions between 16 February and 26 May, 2010.

 

Ellis was discussed on numerous occasions and the point I was making is that no business plan was ever put on the table for discussion.

 

So if one was in existence, it was not withheld by the MEC.

 

I hope this clarifies that matter.

No BH, it doesn't, the claim has been made that MD was in receipt of a business plan/proposal from ellis, that is either true or it is bollox, if by some extreme chance it is true, that document was obviously withheld, as you clearly state you had and have no knowledge of any such document in your tenure as an executive member.

Simple equation looks as if, again if this alleged document existed, said executive committee was no more than a sop given by those who wield the real power in the rsa............just another possible example of alleged duplicity.....stinks doesn't even begin to cover it.

You were the rst official contact with ellis were you not.