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Gersave, a story waiting to be told and yet to unfold ?

Scrap bonuses and make them live in the real world, i.e. earn what they are paid to do, time and motion men put paid to bonus systems in many industries, fitba players can thank their lucky stars they have been protected from them.

Proceeds is another interesting aspect of unity and how much the individual is willing to invest in that unity, be it cash or some other useful currency. The cash question was answered in spades by the failure of Minty's share issue, which he was obliged to underwrite in some form that is shrouded in mystery and blind alleys. The vast majority of fans still see Murray as the second coming, but have better things to do with their cash than underwrite often below average fitba players lifestyles. The internet is its own incestuous gossip shop, where facts are less than necessary, and often deliberately distorted, mostly about point scoring real or perceived. The other currency is mostly time, for which a great many expect a tie and a blazer, fek all to do with bettering anything other than their own position or standing, as they see it. Some people are supporters some are fan(atics), I place myself firmly in the former category, fitba much as I love it, comes someway down the list of my priorities in life, as I will suggest it does with most supporters, of any club. The club could and should solve the whole sorry mess at one fell swoop, but will they.

Like I said, unity is a dream to far.

17 pages and still the obvious is ignored, there is no unity there is no will by the vast majority for unity, the apathy of past years and failed ventures are testament to that.....despite good intentions and fine words nothing will ever change, most bears will settle for their Saturday/Sunday/midweek fix....and get on with the rest of their lifes.

FFS he deserves every last penny, don't you know it's tough at the top.

The irony is all but lost, Rangers Supporters Trust.

The rst is damaged goods, history.

The rst has in the grand scheme of things, an exposure which its results by their very nature show is unjustified.

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My mate at the SJFA says restructure will be when hell freezes over, the SJFA are doing very nicely thank you.

The bottom line is the rst is a waste of space and time, we have to many conflicting interests in our support, time for one body with all having a voice and a meaningful vote..

Everyone has motives, history is littered with them, and as always the victors record that history will see their motives as righteous.

Perhaps because that association would be inaccurate, the ****** party was founded as a non denominational party, indeed one of its founding members seen by many as its figurehead , was one Thomas Davis a member of the Protestant Irish gentry. We really should not let the mhanks hi-jack everything Irish.

In an industry awash with money for the cartels and chosen view, the english game spits in the eye of its greatest heroes, a direct mirror of how society via its government treats all of our heroes, when they are of no further use. The english football authorities should hang their heads in collective shame, some days I wonder where this wonderful game is heading, including ours, and I don't like what I see. http://www.google.co.uk/url?q=http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/news/8002155/Nobby-Stiles-weeps-over-1966-World-Cup-medal-sale.html&sa=X&ei=5TqTTOXqKIGisQP77_HACg&ved=0CC8QqQIoAzAA&usg=AFQjCNGbfQg6zw_Y6L7ImVCFDeaDklaNpA

There is an old saying , sticks and stones etc.... we seemed to handle things with so much more style in days gone by, we laughed at it. The article may or may not be of interest, personally I couldn't give a fuk what anyone calls me, inner knowledge is a wonderful anvil. Swastikas Over Ibrox THERE IS a famous photo of the England football team giving the Nazi salute in Berlin in 1938. But less well known is the part Nazi politics played two years earlier, the last time a united Germany faced Scotland at Ibrox, on Wednesday, October 14, 1936. The countries had only met once before, in 1929, when a makeshift all tartan Scotland team had drawn 1-1 in Berlin. Yet despite the curiosity value, a crowd of 40,000 was much smaller than expected due to the political feeling about the game - even in 1936 there were strong misgivings about the Nazi regime, combined with bitter memories of the Great War. The press even hinted that a demonstration was feared, but there were no signs of trouble on the day thanks to a heavy police presence. "Here were our enemies of a few years ago," one reporter wrote. "Were they fated to play the same role in the near future? Was this great gesture of sport a useless thing, already destined to be jeered at?" Three days before the match the German party arrived at Renfrew Aerodrome and booked in at the Central Hotel before enjoying the time-honoured tradition of second house at the Pavilion. The next morning they went to Ibrox for a training session and were observed performing "a kind of goose-step, diverting the ball from one knee to the other". Sounds like keepy uppy! As the game approached, the political overtones were rife. There was an atmosphere of having an unwanted guest to stay; no-one wanted to be rude and everyone ended up being overbearingly polite instead. Mind you, Rangers and Scotland goalkeeper Jerry Dawson tried to make light of the situation: he dabbed a small black moustache on his upper lip and pulled his hair over his right eyebrow. "Dat's good fonny," a visitor remarked, trying hard not to show offence. There was widespread suspicion that the German 'amateurs' were playing for more than just national pride after the humiliation of losing to Norway in their own Olympic Games. According to the Evening Dispatch: "The visitors will be keen to uphold the honour of their Fatherland, and as was the case with successful athletes at the Olympic Games there is no saying what reward will be meted out to the scorer of the winning goal should there be such luck for a German in the contest." Rangers manager William Struth, familiar with most of the German players, said they did not have the finesse of Scottish footballers but were very fast, and their sudden bursts could rip open an opposing defence. As it turned out, they could not have been more sporting opponents, and every time a German fouled an opponent he instantly extended his hand to receive the shake of forgiveness. When the match came around, the start was delayed for 18 minutes, with the German party held up in heavy traffic. When the team eventually came out, they were wearing white shirts with red collars and cuffs, and black shorts - the Nazi colours; their shirt badge was a Nazi eagle. The players lined up and gave a Nazi salute to the main stand to "loud applause", turned and saluted the opposite side, and again repeated the salute during both national anthems. The Scottish team refrained. The visitors' actions, however, were echoed in the stand by about 500 Germans who had arranged a cruise to fit in this match with the weekend's encounter in Dublin against the Irish Free State. During both national anthems they stood to attention and gave the Nazi salute, as did the German press contingent, much to the bemusement of the Scottish reporters. To make their politics entirely clear, the Germans had brought with them two large Nazi flags - red with a black swastika on a white circle - and these flew over the Ibrox stand together with a Union Jack. At last the match could start. Playing attractive one touch football, the German forwards threatened the Scots goal regularly but nearly always failed to get a shot in, and when they did Dawson came to the rescue. Gellesch did have the ball in the net after just three minutes, but was marginally offside. Scotland made few chances as they stuttered along, and reached half-time with the scoreline blank. Stamina and experience paid off in the end, however, and Scotland's second half performance was enough to secure a 2-0 win with strikes from Celtic's Jimmy Delaney (67 and 83 mins), his first international goals. Overall, it was a poor performance by Scotland who, although never in much danger of losing, failed to settle to a steady game. All the flair came from the visitors. The Germans left the pitch with another Nazi salute to the crowd, and went on to Dublin where they lost 5-2. They can little have thought that it would be almost 60 years before a united German team again met Scotland in Glasgow. They would hardly recognise Ibrox, either, although the Union Jacks are still there. Scotland: Dawson (Rangers), Anderson (Hearts), Cummings (Aston Villa), Massie (Aston Villa), Simpson (Rangers, captain), Brown (Rangers), Delaney (Celtic), Walker (Hearts), Armstrong (Aberdeen), McPhail (Rangers) and Duncan (Derby County). Germany: Jakob (Jahn Regensburg), Munzenberg (Alemannia Aachen), Munkert (1FC Nurnberg), Janes (Fortuna Dusseldorf), Goldbrunner (Bayern Munich), Kitzinger (Schweinfurt 05), Elbern (SV 06 Beuel), Gellesch (Schalke 04), Siffling (SV Waldhof Mannheim), Szepan (Schalke 04) and Urban (Schalke 04). Referee: Harry Nattrass (England).

If there was any will to address perceived sectarianism, a secular outlook would have been law in this country many moons ago, there isn't and there hasn't been, so why anyone gives a flyin' fuk about anything to do with religious power beats me, all to do with money and fuk all to do with good and Godly works by any persuasion.

Greetin faced tossers..... http://tinyurl.com/25upa2k

The english media and talksport radio are slaughtering us to a man, for a pub team (us) having the temerity to match one of their top teams on the pitch, you know they are rattled when they resort to deflecting from the simple truth.......mhanky man u didn't score because we didn't let the. Days like this make me proud to be a Gers and Scottish.

MOM....every single one of them.

David Edgar, of the Rangers Supporters Trust, said: “To get on a long bus journey to be corralled, surrounded by stewards and police, to have to watch what you are saying, it’s just not an attractive proposition. The club has done everything possible to ensure things go smoothly. This is not 2008 with 150,000 ticketless fans. Rangers insider “Rangers fans are realists. We are not going to win so we would be better off spending our money on going to Valencia.” However Andy Kerr, president of the Rangers Supporters’ Assembly, said the last of the tickets had been taken up yesterday morning. http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/home-news/eyes-of-world-on-rangers-fans-1.1054918 boabies will be sooked and hell freeze over....etc etc...

You may be confusing ambition with achievment. We have a lot more of both, than any englunder mob. :spl:

A wee question for all those who want to jump the dyke at Hadrians Wa',........ are you prepared to sacrifice our clubs identity as a Scottish institution by taking if it was offered the tainted EPL fools gold, the irish mob don't count they never had a Scottish identity. And don't come back with the bollox that we would still be as we always have been....we would have sold our soul and our heritage for english and aussie bawbees.....my club is priceless the fuks aint got enough shekels to ever afford us...........

I take it the bold DE will be instructing his Advocates in the form of litigious action, against the mhanky mankchester rag, but maybe not....

If Big Lee clatters yon Berbatov early, he will hide for the rest o the game, one down ten to go...