Calgacus

To be fair to McCall he can only do so much with the dross he has available , the fact Shane Ferguson was trusted to get us out of trouble told its own story

McCall was probably the best we could get in the circumstances at the time he was appointed.

I quite like it...but I'd like to think it's not something that would affect us ie we'd never be involved in the middle section!

And also to be fair to McCoist, Green was always on about how much money we had, so his salary wasn't an issue for the first year or so.

Serious enough to warrant sentences of a "fine of R80 000.00 or 24 months' imprisonment on each of the 41 counts, being the maximum sentence provided for in the Income Tax Act read with the Adjustment of Fines Act 101 of 1991". The effective sentence, as confirmed in the agreement, is a fine of R3 280 000.00 or 984 months (82 years) imprisonment.

 

Seems fairly serious to me but I understand your arguments in mitigation, I don't agree but at least you are not totally blind to the issues as are some on here.

It was an agreement that got them all out of a hole, the SA authorities didn't need to continue with the more serious charges which after 10+ years they hadn't proved, despite all the time and money spent, and King could move on and get on with business. There was no way he was ever going to jail.

Your basing your whole opinion on what someone said about someone else - basically hearsay? Maybe it's good for a lot of people that not everyone does that... the judge was so sure, what did he convict DK of in this case? Was he put in prison for contempt of court? What actual gravitas did this accusation have?

 

I read that a lot of that kind of stuff was quashed when some of the disingenuous work of SARS was revealed. It's easy to look like a liar when people are constantly making up evidence about you. It all just depends on who you believe rather than actual facts.

 

He should be judged on his actions and convictions, not stuff someone said about him.

Judges often say things that are nonsense and which then get contradicted by a higher court. Just because a judge called King something, doesn't mean it was the final verdict of the SA court system.

This is where I disagree with you and almost everyone else (except JohnMc) it seems.

 

The fact that Mr King invested in the Club previously and may do so again to the tune of £10m, £30m or £50m; does not change the fact that he was convicted of serious offences on his own volition in a criminal court where the judge, cetris paribus, described him as "glib and mendacious liar".

 

I do not think it is good for the standing of our Club and I do not want such a person having anything to do with Rangers FC, I do not care how much money he has or plans to invest.

But were the charges serious? The joint statement with SARS described them as lesser counts....including failure to disclose information and failure to provide correct information. There are no overtones of dishonesty in either the statement or the charges. In particular he was not convicted of fraud or tax evasion or dishonesty.

As regards his position on the board and the sale to Whyte...it was Murray who sold his shares to Whyte, not the Company itself. In a sense King was nothing more than an unwelcome sitting tenant

According to my boss who is a Motherwell season ticket holder McCall was very guilty of throwing on defenders and trying to hold on to a lead...just like he did yesterday.

Maybe they should send it to Green to adorn the drawing room of his château?

Haha - reason for that was I was working with bromine in the lab earlier this morning....

Auditioning for a follow up of Breaking Bad?

You could end up in jail for singing the Billy Boys under the old law.

Its not fundamentally wrong at all, its clear that a ST is for the 18 home league matches, but its a nice gesture by the Club especially when a ST is priced at more than the cost of the individual league matches.

 

I think Frankie´s assessment is right though, its one in the eye for the SPFL.

It's to make up for the embarrassment of having to go to play off games!

I'm always a bit bemused as to why anyone would pay attention to anything DJ says...he doesn't come across as very knowledgeable.

Any time the English national football team, rugby team, cricket team etc are playing the petty little jacobites are out in their droves vocally supporting the opposition. All SNP'ers I'd bet.

And the total lack of respect for the UK national anthem at recent games at Hampden was another example of the hatred shown by these people

That's more down to the fact that we share a tv networks with them and know that if they do win we're going to have to suffer their gloating for months or years to come. Besides don't we usually hope the opposition will win when Celtic are playing,? that's just part of sporting rivalry...

It's all very well playing young players..but they need to be coached as well.

He's our worst player.

There's a fair amount of competition for that accolade!

He wasn't done for tax evasion..he was done for not providing the Tax Authorities with information regarding his income. If I remember his basic argument was that the monies concerned weren't his but belonged to various trusts and other entities. It also appears that the original section has been repealed and new provisions brought in where by the Tax Authorities can now levy administrative penalties ie non criminal for these matters.

You may well be right about the sequence of events.

 

The reason I remember the bit about the UEFA delegate was that at the time no one could work out how Celtic knew about it.

 

My recollection is that the punishment was automatic after that but I may be wrong and don't have time right now to look it up.

 

I'm more worried about our first trip to Kazakhstan in the ELQ4 in a couple of year's time TBH.

It won't be a problem..just have Borat for the in flight movie and nothing can go wrong

This all sounds a bit vindictive...shouldn't the right of referral be restricted to cases of serious foul play?

That's fair enough but if we make the SPL next season we'll be nowhere near them and I'm sure they'll remember this.

sufficient unto the day are the troubles thereof... I'll worry about that when the time comes.

Perhaps when we can get back to the SPL and win cups against part-time teams, then we start laughing at how other teams get on.

lighten up for a minute...part of the fun of football is laughing at teams your own team can't beat losing in a competition your own team has already been knocked out of...it's nonsensical, but it's fun. Besides most of us are laughing at their reaction to the defeat, rather than the defeat itself.

I like the all red socks like 1972

When I first saw Rangers in the late 60's they had red socks with white tops...so for me those were always the real Rangers socks!

...will now all kick-off simultaneously at 12:15 BST on Saturday 2 May.

 

More to follow...

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32332187

So thousands of supporters have their weekends mucked up all for the sake of television!

http://www.scottishfa.co.uk/scottish_fa_news.cfm?page=2566&newsCategoryID=41&newsID=14215

 

for the club. Ashley received a £10,000 fine. what's in store for us?

I hope this isn't what Jackson was hinting about in his tweet

It really irritates me the way clubs attend meetings pass rules and regulations and set down procedures and then bitch about them months or years later when they discover that a particular rule causes them a problem.

He said the Pope thing twice, once to Hartley and before that to the rest of the broadcasting team. It was all rather odd