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This is something which would only put our hesitency in the transfer window into perspective as well as shedding more insight into the modern day transfer dealings. On a sidenote though ... "profit" now would still mean that we got a large bit of the 5.5m now, but compared to what have we paid back then, the actual profit from both deals was minimal. Not that this is unusal in this day and age, unless you want to buy a player from (sic!) the EPL (or Porto).

Just out of interest ... can anyone (like Murray & MIH) ask somesuch of another businessman? For all the bluster, I simply don't understand why a new owner of a company should be open about this to an old owner. Same goesfor AJ and his stuff, or the press' constant harassment of Whyte "to tell the truth". IMHO they can demand whatever they like and ask questions to their hearts' content, but Whyte is probably as required to give answers as Lloyds Banking Group would be.

(On a sidenote, internet and its instant updates on news sure has people in their grasps these days. Hand on heart, how many of you have checked whether there's any news of the Cousin deal being concluded ... these last 30 minutes alone? )

I'd hope that football players stop utilizing him as an agent.

Wasn't it said that the Ticketus deal was done over a certain number of years ... and that payments will be made accordingly, rather than one lumps sum?

Not scanning the British media. But maybe you've got a link?

Well, from what I know of Mark Dingwall, he will not have been sitting in anyone's lap and listen to the wise words of the chairman. Then again, it seems that many on here will not be satisfied with much (to anything) what Whyte says or does, and they will demand a vis-a-vis talk with him too.

Why would HMRC have ... and show confidental company information to someone like Paul Murray? I can give me the answer to "why", but not to "show". If so, you'd have to ask serious questions about HMRC's information processing. For AFAIK, Murray is just a normal person with no special right to see our documents, or those of Celtic, Arsenal or whatnot.

On a sidenote, Rangers and the SFA were waiting for confirmation from the Gabun FA, whether Cousin is indeed under freedom of contract. So what is he on about?

While people will come up with "he may have lied", it sure can be verified: Whyte has only this week (again) stated that the Ticketus deal was done AFTER the take-over, so how on Earth should he have used that money to pay the bank? For as I am/was aware, Lloyds was paid as part of the take-over, not afterwards. From today's RST summary of their meeting with the chairman: Cannot see any benelovent motive in this action by the former chairman. At least right now.

Well, we simply should not do this ...

On a sidenote, as I just found out, you can complain about the BBC to Ofcom too, it seems. And while we are at it, since the SFA and SPL is very slow to react to any chants from the Hooped Horrors, whoe were again obvious last night, maybe someone should complain at higher authorities?!

BTW, if Cousin (or someone else) ends his contract with Sapins tomorrow, he'd essentially be a free agent to sign for anyone else the day after.

So the BBC shall remain a self-controlling business? Much like the SFA who can sanction managers and players alike, but their referees are beyond criticism by said people?

They were, for about a day and a half last May, after slaughtering Killie and retaining the title. Soon after that the usual fare crept back into the minds. Anyways, one of my mottos is that ... it is not as important to look at the deficits as it is to see the possibilities of the manageable. We are in the "now and here" and we have to live with that and make the best of it. And yes, we all know that it could be much better, and was much better. But "could" and "was" are of no help.

I just suggest to stop posting laments with nigh every transfer target that happens by. We saw that with Aluko and nothing has changed since, despite him being one of the best things we've had these last 6 months. As for the transfer deal stuff ... I am still somewhat hesitant here, since we are effectively noselead by various press stories even before any of our own people (be that management or chairman) has said a word on it. The media falls over one another with assumptions and rumours and many follow suit, ending up with an idea how things went even before the manager knows that he was interested. Sure, there were some strange thing, not least Goodwillie, but that has not solely to do with out management.

Not patronising, Sir, just stating the obvious. What does it help if we go on and on and on about the very same thing ... apart that it drags all ever more deeper into the gloom and doom levels. We know that before the HMRC thing is done there will not be major signings or improvements ... for very obvious reasons. The sooner we acknowledge this, live with it (FOR THE TIME BEING) and get on with it, the better. The team has shown pre the Cup game that it is good enough for the SPL, for the time being. Hemmings comes back ... and with Broadfoot at least someone who can play at right back at an SPL level. The more decent enough people we get in the better. IMHO Cousin will be decent enough, for say 6 months. By then we're either in administration or we are not, but that is then, not now. Now we face the Pars on the weekend.

... not possible since it is a loan deal. McMillan will burst his gut against us though.

But lamenting about it each and every time we are not linked to a super-star will not change it ...

You've seen him play in the African Cup of Nations of late? . The source that needs no clicks "Considering" and "understands" are the main words here.

As I said before, people work with assumptions - if not to say hearsay - here, for e.g. throwing the Ticketus deal about, a deal that was made after the takeover (and, as Whyte stated, it is not only common practise all over Britain, but was also done by the previous board - though not that long.) At times, I really dispair how people go on and on with information fed by the press, but ignore what Whyte has stated already. As long as that remains the case and nigh all what Whyte says is regarded as dubious, there is no real basis for keeping a discussion or debate alife. Sure people will come out now and say that Whyte does not tell the truth and one has a right to ask questions and should not keep the head in the sand. But - really - the negativity surrounding all things Whyte - well bred and fed by the press over a long year now - has a hearty grip on many people and objectivity has long since disappeared in many a discussion. People, after being nose-lead by Murray & Co. over years, apparently transferred a good portion of this ill feelings to the new owner, being lead down the hysteria garden path by a malcontent media too. That plays exactly into the hands of all those who wish our club ill and makes a mockery of the well-known line "no-one likes, us; we don't care!". "We" care more about hearsay and assumptions from the outside than anything else these days. And that transpires onto the field of play and also affects the players and staff. Job well done ...

No, Ofcom has a long standing dispute with the BBC about their apparent "carte blanche" and this is more ammunition for Ofcom's claims. People just have to use it correctly.

This is ever more bordering to the ridiculous the more it gets on. Half-truths and hearsay from all angles, assumptions and speculation all over the place. I think I'll give it a rest till we get the HMRC verdict and see what developes after that. May the press enjoy their self-stired hysteria and may the Bears keep a clean head.

Making peace with the BBC? As in giving them the card blanche to simply go on with their mudstirring? The same tactics have IMHO lead to the sad statistic that Celtic players can commit twice as many fouls per game before receiving a yellow card than any other team. The BBC has an obligation to be impartial. We do not have an obligation to serve their needs, especially when they are not fulfinging their own obligations.

Unless I am mistaken, I answered this myself with a quote from the Circular? Bluedell Now wait, when exactly did we do this deal with Ticketus? Before or after June 2011? That aside, unless I am mistaken, we did/do not get the money up front either. As I said before, we pay out some 3.5m a month. Now add up all these months to the date you require (June 2011) and then up to now to see how much we/he/TRG have to spent. It is not that difficult.