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8 minutes ago, Craigy1881 said:

As for paying hearts money I would be trying to give them as little as possible as well :D.  Finding players available in your price range that are good enough is also a challenge in itself.

It ultimately comes down to how much SG & MA value the player - if they see £750k (in the case of Lafferty) as good value for money then fine, they meet Hearts valuation & job done.  However, if they see him worth no more than £500k and Hearts are unwilling to sell at that price, then we walk away & close the door on a monetary deal - Hearts potentially lose out by not getting a penny.

16 minutes ago, buster. said:

I think this game has potential to develop in a way that more tests the players ability to deal with a situation.

 

ie. if they score the first goal then we are forced out of the relative comfort zone of a two goal advantage and the pressure mounts as Maribor get encouragment. 

 

First and foremost, we really have to defend well and prevent them from scoring. If Jack, Coulibally and Arfield are playing I'll be happier but still somewhat aprehensive about what happens down the left, as I don't see any options that are decent.

 

Second, we need to counter with menace and not be camped on our 18 yard box.

 

 

Agreed....I think from our side of things, we will be happy to keep the ball in the midfield & breaking up any play they may have.  Couple that with the odd break forward, just to remind them that we're a threat.  We will ultimately play for a 0-0 draw.

Maribor HAVE to try & score....if we nullify that option we then have full control of the match.

11 hours ago, the gunslinger said:

Something wrong with these stats in fairness.

Ceptics possession stats are normally quite high....they spend large parts of the game simply passing it between their back-4 & sitting midfielders, all well within their own half.  The opposition are rarely anywhere near them, as there's no point chasing the ball about & wasting energy.

11 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

He's only been a manager for a few weeks.

But he still knows (experience as a player) how to manage difficult away games to your advantage - he has already show this experience against Osijek & Shkupi.

11 minutes ago, compo said:

Therefore securing their hold on the club no complaint about that from me , but with more shares will this dilute the holdings of others .

Apparently, only being offered to specific existing shareholders.....therefore the percentage of those not included will be diluted. 

8 minutes ago, Crimson Dynamo said:

He clearly contributes.  Is he a world beater? No of course not. But we need players that can contribute and Lafferty fits that bill.

What that contribution is, depends on the players position.  We are needing an alternative to cover Freddo, in case he's injured, suspended or needing a break.  Therefore Lafferty's contribution ultimately has to be goals - I'm not convinced that Lafferty is the man to provide those goals when called upon - especially if he isn't playing week in, week out.

21 minutes ago, cooponthewing said:

It’s an ultra thing, it is what it is. Why should you want young fans in Scotland be different from ultra fans Europe wide? Should young Scottish fans be singled out and expected to behave differently? This is what they do, get over it.

Doesn't make it big, clever or right though....Who want's to be like everyone else - other fans should want to be like us!!!

All I'm saying is, with a slight change of tact, these matchday marches could be a great thing for the club & supporters.

4 minutes ago, Craigy1881 said:

that was 6 years ago.  Let it go, you'll be in a happier place when you do

based on his stats since then...he's still done a lot of ball tripping!!!!  He is NOT a prolific goal scorer - his career record supports that.  Therefore, if he's not a proven goal scorer, what is he going to bring to the team???

3 minutes ago, Bill said:

I've thought about this and still can't get my head around what the gain is from sniping at what is apparently an imminent new signing. I always thought it was traditional at Rangers to wait until a player had a ball at his feet before we start dismantling his confidence.

True...but in this case he's previously had the ball at his feet, and tripped over it

Remove the pyrotechnics & the face hiding (though didn't seem that much this time), and you have a the same impact with the fans participating & watching, but with out the potentially negative overtones.  You also have something that could be turned into a positive thing!!!

55 minutes ago, pete said:

I am not a lafferty fan but In his defence I think he was mostly played on the left wing for us so it is a bit unfair expecting a strikers tally in goals. Personally I would prefer a striker who can head the ball. I would have an inquiery about Bas Dost as I know he is unhappy at Sp. Lisbon. I have no idea what the financial side is though.

I don't know where other teams have played him, but his goal tally hasn't really improved at other clubs - I'd go as far as saying he is a less prolific goal scorer than Kenny Miller.  Acutally, checking Wikipedia - KM as a 33% career scoring record, compared to KL's 25%.

15 hours ago, Crimson Dynamo said:

Since he left Rangers he's scored goals goals in Switzerland, England, Italy, Turkey and Scotland as well as finishing top scorer for his country during their qualification for Euro 2016.

 

To me that shows a level of versatility and that he is adaptable and surely that is what Rangers should be looking for?

 

Will he be top scorer? No. Will he contribute? Yes.

 

 

Career total of 407 games....98 goals scored.

Morelos is only 25 career goals short of Lafferty, after only 137 games.  Lafferty is certainly NOT the reliable striker that many folk seem to think - his 19 goals for Hearts last season was only the 3rd time he's hit double figures in a season (other twice being 2013-14 with Palermo(12) and 2010-11 with us(15).) and also his highest goal tally ever in a single season.

Also, as we have seen in recent years, many Gers fans don't like players who "disappear" in games.....what's Lafferty's work rate like???  I've never got the impression that he was a grafter.....

1 minute ago, cooponthewing said:

That’s because your British, and you always will be Dar’t. “Our City, Our Club” has nothing to do with being Scottish. Glasgow is a British city and part of the UK??. Embrace your Britishness, you know you want too

There is nothing that will every stop me being British....coz I live in the British Isles (ie. the land mass)....however I will first & foremost ALWAYS be Scottish.

On 10/08/2018 at 16:27, Gonzo79 said:

Why am I not surprised that you and Darther don't approve of the UNION Bears.  ?

 

I've got nothing against them...they can call themselves whatever they like - makes no difference to me.

Also, nothing against them organising marches - think it's a good thing in that it brings supporters together.  However, I don't agree with the face covering/identity hiding or the pyrotechnics - is that what makes them "Ultras"???  Why feel the need to hide your face, when your not doing anything wrong???

On thing that did make me smile though "Our City, Our club"....but suggest we're actually Scottish & you get called all sorts!!!!

Ceptic have a big squad, but as the weekend showed it doesn't mean they are all world beaters.

What is important is have a good TEAM.  As we've seen (all be it mainly in friendlies), we are developing a team that can be interchanged without impacting the style & quality of play too much.  A possibly problem with Ceptic is that they have individuals playing more for themselves, than the greater good of the team.

6 hours ago, Gonzo79 said:

Completely the opposite of every Ultra activity in history then.

Why does it need to be "Ultras" who march???

Why not use something like that to Celebrate the club, it's fans & it's diversity???

14 minutes ago, buster. said:

Was

 

His value or International caps wouldn't have increased by sitting in the Ibrox stand.

 

Better to take the money now and free up a wage.

He has been injured recently, hence Flanagan(a RB) starting.  He is still worth considerably more than £800k.

John is/was a 1st team regular, with several years left on his contract.  He's 23 & a Wales international....£800k is embarrassing!!!!

Nothing wrong with a wee march to the stadium....but it should be a fun, family friendly thing.  The last UB March was anything but that & showed the club in a very bad light.

10 minutes ago, rbr said:

£2.5 million for a player with all the talent but no heart is a decent return

No it's not....he should be getting substantially more than that.  Players in their last year of contract with notably less game time are going for 3x that fee.....

17 hours ago, the gunslinger said:

Only attacking wins games.

We should stop playing a keeper and go with sn extra striker.

Seemed that way at times last season, due to the number of goals lost

5 hours ago, Uilleam said:

"Keelies" is an old usage (sorry, S7, but it is) which seems to have dropped out of common parlance. 

It's origin, I have been told, relates to the influx of Irish immigrants in the 19th C, and is a corruption of "Kellys". This may be nonsense, but I have never heard another explanation. I stand to be corrected, if anyone has a better account. 

 

"Weegies" is a term dreamed up by East coast hicks, in a Leith Wine Bar, as some kind of pejorative label. It has, however, never stuck, and is not recognised by the native of No Mean City. Its use is an irritation, like midges, and tells one more about the person applying the term than it does about the person to whom it is applied. 

I always took Weegie to be an abbreviation of Glaswegian - denoting a person from Glasgow.

1 minute ago, DMAA said:

I think it’s 3?

Was it not 3 for Jack last season, then this one???

Is that at least 4 Red cards now either reduced or rescinded completely, over the course of a season & 1 game.

A thorough analysis needs to be done of cards received/challenged by us compared to other premiership teams, along with other refereeing "mistakes".  Then, present those findings to the SFA/SPFL - for closed door discussion.  The details shouldn't be put out to the public (initially) - LEt the fans know it's happening, but keep the details quiet until decision is reached.

These kind of decisions are costing the club points.  It's all well & good to say, the "punishment" has been reduced, but we lost an important player, in an equally important match.  Reducing the card afterwards doesn't alter the result & while there's no guarantee, we wouldn't have lost the goal....it is less likely if we had a full compliment of players on the pitch.

5 minutes ago, Ser Barristan Selmy said:

And if we won those games we would have won the league. The tims proved when it mattered that they had a much better attack than us. 

 

We were absolutely garbage in attack last season. 

 

I really am gone now ?

There was nothing wrong with out attack or ability to score goals....it was the inability to stop the opposition scoring that caused us problems.