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well everybody backing king said they can trump ashley, well guess what ashley just played a massive blinder.

 

its a case of king, stump up or go to admin 2

Haha, did you take a long time to think of that? I hope not. A blinder indeed....

I have no idea what board is meant or what the HofF board is. I really just said Blue room without any knowledge of what lies where. I did have a tour of Ibrox once but I believe it may be 45-50 years ago. The Trophy room and the view from the press box high up under the roof of the main stand are the only things I can really remember. I also remember walking from the kick-in area out the tunnel on to the park of course.

Might have been best to simply ignore the post then.

Sorry I don't get that. what is wrong with phoning a friend or colleague up and saying "Hey I am standing in the blue room at ibrox and I see your name on the board" I would be chuffed if a colleague phoned me up about that.

When did they put the HofF board in the blue room?

NO.

 

I stood and was elected to serve on the RFB.

 

I was removed without due process.

 

As some predicted at the time, that was probabaly the beginning of the end of the RFB; not because it was me but because I wasn't replaced.

 

Then we had them being used over the Semi Final allocation; lack of communication leading to the vote of no confidence; the two meetings with L&L; the resignation of the Chair; the publication of the Minutes with Leach' comment (which was wrong and provocative however you dress it up); and now the disbandment.

But they were clever enough not to replace you, weren't they? Killed the issue and any further meddling actions stone dead.

Chris Graham ‏@ChrisGraham76 27m27 minutes ago

RST reaction to Easdale leaving and EGM countdown http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/9732116/easdale-quits-rangers …

Could not mention RF, even when asked directly. Which is nice.

I don't know anything about Jack Irvine and I have never supported the Easdales.

 

I do think that if Llambias goes then we will need another tough cookie like him to continue the cost reduction process to the point where we are living within our means.

I can understand that you have never supported the Easdales, after all they are nothing. But you have very publicly back the lamb + the leech, and they are simply doing master Mike's bidding in dismantling our football club and stealing every revenue stream we have. You have been very clear with that.

You also do not want King nor any of his Rangers minded colleagues on the board or anywhere near our club, you would rather keep the disgusting parasitic thieves already in place. A tough cookie my arse, the meek lamb is a cheap whore servicing his pimp's requirements. Continue cost reduction, ha ha.

At least we know where your vote went and I do admire you sticking up for those you believe in.

PM WATP_Greg mate.

I have been in touch with Greg about a few things recently but I know he will see it on here. And as I said, these things are not a priority atm for RF.

RF announces a further rise in their holding - now 2.25% with another 0.7% of voting rights for EGM.

All they need to do now is update their website. Not for the shareholding change, because it is not there, but all the rest of it. Currently, it gives a very bad impression.

I know it is not a priority and the volunteers will be very busy, but, imo, the front page sends out the wrong vibes:

EGM UPDATE

Latest News

Rangers First – latest update:

The keenly awaited EGM is to be held in a hotel in London on the 4th of March.

Rangers First spokesman said this afternoon, " The board of Rangers FC and the NOMAD WH Ireland appear to have set this up to make voting as awkward as possible especially for the small share holders, many of who are Rangers Fans. Rangers First are pleased to announce that we will have a number of drop in centres available for people who need help in completing voting forms or if they would like to proxy their shares to Rangers First. We will be delighted to help any shareholders be they Rangers First members or not as it is important that as many votes are cast in this process as possible, you can also email shares@rangersfirst.com for info”

Drop in centres will be available in Glasgow, Edinburgh, Stirlingshire & North West England with other venues to be announced. If any member is struggling to attend then we will do our best to arrange a home visit.

This is a critical vote for the future of our club and we encourage everyone to find a way to exercise their vote.”

I see RF passed the 12k mark earlier this evening. Along with the earlier RST move, it makes it another fantastic day for and effort by the Rangers supporters.

Well done to all.

I doubt 20% of the shares would be relevant to an employment tribunal.

 

Hey, I'm just passing on my experience of what employment tribunals seem to look at. I'm not saying I agree with it (I definitely don't) but they tend to have a very narrow set of references.

I agree re normal employment tribunals, but think in the case of BL it would be more than relevant. The references will simply have to be wider, For many obvious reasons which are transparent and at the forefront of most RIFC board decisions since he was appointed by his long term sugar daddy and boss.

But personally,I doubt MA and BL would want their previous nor current shenanigans discussed and dissected at any tribunal. Fwiw, I think he will resign before he is voted off the board anyway.

Employee tribunals won't take into account most of what you've said. They almost always take the side of the employee. The circumstances of saying something that's your opinion about somebody that has no connection with the club wouldn't be sufficient in the eyes of a tribunal. They wouldn't take account of anything other than the incident itself.

 

Given no action would be taken by the current board and the 3Bs have no connection with the forthcoming EGM, anything subsequent to that would be looked upon as vindictive.

 

Tribunals are crazy and don't take a common sense approach. I just can't see one taking the side of a new board on this and he'll get his full pay-off in line with his contract.

If they have no connection whilst owning 20% of the company, how many more shares do you think they would need to buy to be connected?

Craig Whyte may well have a fortune. Then again he may well be on the bone of his arse. And perhaps it was coincidental that he changed the name of Wavetower to Rangers FC group as soon as he had control. Or perhaps he had some obscure reason, regardless of RFC's debt during his tenure rising by an amount very similar to our total expenditure. Or it may have been as simple as RFC having very few revenue streams.

Rangers FC or Rangers FC group, I am all confused. BDO will no doubt manage to confirm in due course.

Anyone could access the full poll results (even without being logged in!) just by clicking the number of votes next to each poll option, so SBS will have seen that you didn't vote for the removal of Llambias or Leach and that you didn't vote for the appointment of Dave King, Paul Murray or John Gilligan either.

So Mr Harris likes Ashely's control regime and does not want King, Murray or Gilligan on board, so what?

That sounds about right, given: 1 in Canada, 1 in the Highlands, 1 in N Ireland and 1 in England.

The Highlands? Hamish who?

Follow follow - are closing any thread relating to the RF - its becoming a joke.

It is not becoming a joke, they have been like that for years. This is just the latest example of their petty squabbling and blinkered viewpoint. Absolutely pathetic and an embarrassment.

They allow their host to have scumtic adverts on their site but, heavens above, don't mention the biggest fans group anywhere. Democratic and tolerant of all kinds - apart from fellow Rangers fans. Well done FF & RST

I find that in extremely bad taste.

 

However bad the current directors may be there is no need to characterise them in this way.

Well well, what a surprise. Not. Who needs enemies.

Excellent news indeed.

Well done Rangers First. Good to see and long may it continue. I did see this article posted elsewhere for a nano second the other day.

Pity FF have decided to delete any mention of you on the RST's propoganda site. Open to all, apart from some of our own. They do keep reminding us they are political though.

That's your choice DT and if it makes sense to you, then it's absolutely fine.

 

FWIW, I didn't contribute to the Gersnet share purchase fund either, but Bluedell said he was keeping it open, so I voted on the basis that I do intend to contribute to it, especially if the forum fund starts buying shares direct from the market.

It absolutely makes sense to me however I do understand most site users will vote in the poll. Maybe new members should not be accepted until the vote is closed though:whistle:

I did purchase some shares a few weeks back mind you and will, of course, be utilising my rights with them.

I will not vote because I never contributed. Which is, imo, correct.

And also, the poll threads are a clusterfuck.

Just catching up with the Dave King press conference of this morning. The man certainly appears very confident and spoke well. It's difficult to read too much into his comments though as there's a lack of depth in his answers. However, he's certainly convincing.

 

All in all, it was quite a positive conference. One can only question why he didn't take this more open strategy last year.

 

In any case, if you look at the performance, words & actions of the incumbents there's really little contest when it comes to EGM voting. Yes, there may be doubts over what King can achieve but personally I don't see the SFA or any other shareholder stopping his resolutions.

Really? Where could King have sourced the 15% of shares from last year? And the 3 bears their holding? I shudder to think how long it took them all to be able to make this happen.

What a pity that so much time and energy has been wasted over many years in the amateur financial analysis of what has been going on inside Ibrox. It didn't change anything - the wrong people are still in charge.

 

Fan ownership was put forward over ten years ago but it took far too long to build up a head of steam.. Even now, it's only making headway because people thought that Ibrox could be lost. You have to wonder - why were we never this upset when the entire club - including Ibrox - was in inappropriate ownership?

 

It has become impossible now for thousands of fans to prop up Mike Ashley's Rangers - and who can blame them.? Rangers has been consumed by a corporate empire that has effectively turned the club into SD Rangers.

 

What socially aware discerning 21st century fan in the west of Scotland is going to enthusiastically back Rangers now?

 

The EGM has become a must-win game for the Rangers support. The club will never maximise its potential while it is a glorified branch of Sports Direct.

Mr Glass's idea was excellent. A massive failure early doors yet it deserved to go places.

Any time that I have mentioned it, I got rebuked by admin for doing so. I don't see the connection between that and what you quoted. You're not saying that if I pick holes in one side, that I'm automatically with the other side, are you?

Not at all.

Chris Graham has the condescending prick routine down to a fine art. The RST have helped to fund the regime through purchasing shares. People in glass houses.

Many in our support live in glass houses and some among those who shout the loudest were Green's biggest fans and financial backers.

Yet conveniently forgotten and never mentioned. Strange, not.

No but then again we still have the same directors and still have massive financial problems.

Hence the smiley in my post. I simply wanted to acknowledge the wee bit of progress off field, Sorry.