Dragonfly Trumpeter

Totally disagree. Football side can be cured quite easily with the appointment of a decent but affordable manager. Look how easily Hearts and Hibs have done it.

 

I don't see any way out of the off-field problems and it will take much longer to sort out the problems there.

So have we utilised the easier option and appointed a new manager / management team yet?

If one man or the three bears chose to sell the club to the support for a fair price, that would be fine by me.

 

I don't want or expect gifts and I don't want or expect anyone to be out of pocket.

 

If I bought Rangers for £20m I would offer it to the support for that exact sum. The last thing I would want is be the sole owner of Rangers but I would love to co-own it along with 100,000 other Rangers fans.

£20 million then, that was my point. We will have fan ownership soon but it will simply not be too widespread in the main. At least there is no doubting the fans who are proactive at the minute which is tremendous news for us all.

Having a greater say is all very well, but if the ownership of the club is always up for grabs, another crisis is inevitable. It might be nice to have a say in what colour our change strip is going to be, but in the grand scheme, it is nothing compared to having the club owned and secured by the massed ranks of the support.

 

That has to be the goal and if the good guys triumph, they surely cannot ignore this very harsh lesson that has cost us dearly.

And there you have it. The club will be a club, controlled by one member, one vote, when you buy it and hand it over. Free.

not sure park could afford that and to underwrite the share issue.

 

more likely a mixture or king.

Not sure if serious, but quite funny GS

Little chance of the 'Three Bears' deal being accepted now, not that there ever was.

Much more likely now. Which is nice.

tell me this is the small light at the end of the long tunnel

This is a bright, beaming floodlight, no question.

if they have six million and king has thirteen million lump together and buy the blinking club otherwise go away and stop building up the supporters hopes

No one has ever thought about that perhaps? Because £19 million would not buy you the club today? Because 23p a share, whilst over the market cap, is not enough? Because the wigs' well is not completely dry yet? Because you cannot buy what somebody else will not sell? Because we live on a different planet maybe?

McCoist didn't write his own contract. Nor did he make racist comments or get caught posting sensitive information on public forums.

I think you are correct, I think McCoist's advisors wrote his contract for him and Greenco were not concerned about the small coal details.

They had their man and he dutifully served their purpose by backing every prat they took in.

I'd suggest that it's not particularly easy to be 'wide of the mark' when you happen to agree with the majority of someones' points.

Fair enough, but that is why I used the handy 'bold' feature

'The football side of our great club is more fractured and broken than the corporate structure.'

 

Not sure I agree with this.

 

However bad the football side, it is the corporate that could kill us.

I genuinely believe that the football side is in a worse state, will be harder to fix and will take much longer.

Far from thinking we will be killed off, a couple of long conversations I had at Easter Rd yesterday has me at the point of seriously considering becoming a shareholder in our club again very soon.

I think most folk here would agree with you mate, but despite the penny shares and other things which get thrown at the man, I do think he had the Club's best interests at heart even if he was wrong.

Strangely enough, I find that post to be a bit wide of the mark. Particularly the bit where you say "despite the penny shares and other things which get thrown at the man". Patronising in the extreme, a bit like McCoist himself. You make it sound as though people are throwing mud at the man to try and blacken his reputation. Ridiculous, he did that all on his own for personal gain. Nobody threw any penny shares at McCoist, he sold his soul and his integrity for them. Shares that the fans were paying 70p for, McCoist saw fit to rape the club for. Greenco were dead in the water and McCoist carried them through it, a nice little earner. Greenco have proved beyond a reasonable doubt that the clubs interests were tarnished a wee tadge by it though.

The primary interests McCoist had at heart whilst manager of our great club were his own. And boy did he look after them. £15k a week to watch the rugby is testament to that. And I must say he looks relaxed and content in the photo. Yet he did everything in his power to feather his nest and treated the club and the fans with utter contempt. Honestly guys, he never knew what he was getting paid - he told us that.

Yesterday, I was at Easter Rd. Well, for 62 minutes. I saw what the interests of our club are after McCoist's stewardship. A squad of 2nd time around and journeyman players, assembled by the manager and no one else, who simply do not care for the club. A £7 million a year wage bill to languish so far behind a poor Hearts team that we have no chance of automatic promotion and the players do not give a shit. Because it is what has been instilled in them for 3 years and they are all McCoist's pals, bff's.

The football side of our great club is more fractured and broken than the corporate structure. Quite unbelievable. Well done McCoist, a total and utter failure in the job since day 1 but a much wealthier one despite his own catastrophic failings.

But relax Zappa, your man will be a hero again. When he realises the error of his ways and hands his ill advised, morally disgusting corporate stake in the club over to the fans.

How could Gough give a quote, is he not still sucking Craig Whyte's dick? At least he got a job out of his staunch defence of Whyte on the rsc circuit. Personally, I will never forget how low Gough went and what he said to us, the fans. Horrible to see a Rangers great resort to that pish.

It seems a disgusting trait amongst many playing legends from our club that they support every scumbag who comes through the door and may therefore further their nest egg.

Read somewhere else that in this new "in house" share issue, existing shareholders can "only" buy as many shares as they already own. As in: if you hold 1 share, you can buy another 1, if you have 1m, you can buy another million, then perhaps scoop up any that have not been taken up. Is that correct?

No, it is wrong. RIFC is not issuing 81m new shares. And only the under writer can scoop, a bit like a dog walker.

Kenny never wanted to be a manager and dislikes talking to the press. It's not his fault he's been given this.

It is entirely his fault, he took it. He should have walked but that is another story. At least him and Durrant have one thing in common - hugely embarrassing defeats in their one and only game in charge.

Utter shit from day 1 but they did get the hump in the challenge cup as a threesome, 3 times.

it's not a case of being against it if murray is involved or any degree of hatred. it's just that he has been associated with so many failed attempts it might be best for unity if he just keeps out of it and lets these new guys take the lead. i'm sure he will be delighted to take a back seat if it's good rangers men involved .. wouldn't he!!!!

100% certain he will do whatever is best for Rangers, of that their is no question.

This thread has got potential, it is fucking brilliant already. Today will be better than Christmas eve was, and I am still gutted I was busy and only managed a couple of fleeting visits here on the 24th.

But as spectacular a Gersnet day as it was, bans should be handed out for baiting as well as biting though, dear mods But in fairness, there would have been very few left on

His actions as a manager have completely ruined his legacy.

He could ensure that is not a problem. He could simply hand over the proceeds of his disgusting corporate rape and all will be forgotten. Being a vital part of Greenco, the hard sell, backing every last one of them and the splitting up of millions of shares will be airbrushed out of the big picture.

500,000 shares each to BR & RF and he will be an absolute hero - to many. From Malmo until his sad farewell will cease to exist

No need to sit on the fence, Dragonfly. You can speak your mind freely

Devil's Advocate kind of stuff but I suppose none of it is true.

I see it was Jig who was wheeled out today to reassure the natives that tomorrow is the new beginning, silky football etc. I am all excited now, looking forward to my 12 hour shift tomorrow. I am also sure it will be worth it

McCoist the player is an absolute legend and it needs no discussion. A tremendous asset to our club all through his playing time with us.

As possibly the most disappointed man on the planet with regards his managerial efforts, I sincerely hope he goes soon and the full brutality of his dug out reign does not diminish his Rangers status totally.

A very interesting article in the op. This Christopher Jack puts forward a staunch defence of McCoist, this Rangers man attempting to save our club from disaster, fighting the corporate rapists with their onerous contracts and crusading for all those unfortunately shown the door by Greenco. No doubt this is how McCoist wants to be remembered now that his footballing MO has finally crashed for, perhaps, the last time.

So, a few questions Mr Jack may have answers for.

Did McCoist back Whyte yet survive, even though his managerial career was an unmitigated failure immediately, from Malmo & Maribor onwards?

Did administration save him, allowing him to fight with a new regime but the new regime never got a start?

Did McCoist save the new regime, a 3 week turn around from his Ibrox suite announcement, and Greenco were the mutts nuts. STs ahoy?

For being a life saver, did McCoist strengthen by far the most onerous contract in the club at the time, £800k plus expenses in the 4th division?

For his unequivocal backing, was McCoist also rewarded to the tune of 1 million shares @ 1p as part of the corporate rape when they were floated to the fans at 70p?

Like Green, Ahmed and the rest, was having an ipo cash grab from the punters high enough up his agenda to warrant the support he gave?

Did he also successfully keep his massive and ultra expensive coaching cronies in their over paid jobs down in the 4th division regardless of their contribution and remuneration?

Any truth in the rumour that he even got his beloved Greenco to pay his brief salary shortfall that resulted from admin?

And even as the results got worse, did McCoist back his fellow 1p share buddies every time they wheeled in a new mouth to feed, ceo, consultants, whatever, without exception?

Did McCoist finally get a footballing challenge, a very sad state of affairs with only approx 5 times the budget of his main rivals at his disposal and not the favoured 500x factor, giving need for tactical awareness along with man managing & coaching prowess?

Did his coaching of the old boys lot of Miller, Boyd, Smith, Hutton, McCulloch, Foster etc continue to fail, likewise with his over paid journeymen contingent of Shiels, Daly, Black, Peralta, Simonsen etc?

So after surviving the horrific league defeats to the giants of Peterhead, Annan, Stirling and the likes, was the pressure now on from the rookies at Tynecastle since his inability to coach his old pals and journeymen starting 11 was finally found out?

Did his stubborn streak and squad lack of fitness, youth, pace, width and ability amongst his preferred picks rattle the natives?

Is the corporate rape of the cash cow now a troublesome issue for many many, and has the (unknowingly) fat salaried, penny share leader lost too many disciples so it is game over?

Have the despicable fuckers not even left a measly £750k to let him slip out quietly but even richer?

Should McCoist have been sacked after 3 months, long before Greenco, instead of fighting for more cash 3.5 years into an horrific, inept and catastrophic tenure? Therefore saving all this grief, obviously.

I understand the stalemate re the board and the end of McCoist's utterly shambolic performance as manager of Rangers FC , so hopefully it will be cleared up soon. One final pay off maybe?

Discussions will be going on. McCoist has effectively said he wants to go and both parties need to find a means to allow that to happen as soon as possible

McCoist has simply activated the '1 year rolling' part to end his contract. He wants his year and his deferrals. Clever guy strengthened his position before the axe swung.

Cash is king, losing to Queens matters not.

Greedy, stubborn, arrogant, selfish. I need to watch here, trying to be as kind as i can.

I better stay out of it then....

I doubt very much that his secretary being made redundant would prompt Ally's resignation, but things do all add up and if he's been told yesterday afternoon that certain players will be sold in January and a list of certain others will not be getting new contracts, then that could have been his breaking point.

He spent a fortune taking the easy option, dispensing with any coaching malarkey and signed or re-signed a bunch of ex players, spl journeymen, old heads and some good pals. Done and dusted shoe horn McCulloch being the classic.

We are 9 points behind Hearts because we only have 5 times their budget, not 500 times like earlier in this so called journey. McCoist can have little complaint about his buddies getting punted. We are not at the races. If that was his breaking point, hurray for that.

It is astonishing that he himself survived 3 months, never mind 3 years. Not fit for purpose since day 1 and got worse. Results don't lie, starting from the very beginning sadly. Anyone else would have been sacked by Christmas in the first season.

Administration, start of the worst spell in our clubs history but the saviour of McCoist.

My feelings in this matter can be summed up in the words of the old Manfred Mann song.

 

 

"If you've gotta go, go now"!

Manfred Mann, famous for having a bass player from Fraserburgh. And not much else

Whatever else is going on, McCoist is on the team bus to Palmerston now.