the gunslinger

when you get caught lying you lose trust. that's where d&p and green are.

I wouldn't believe a word out of either of their mouths. I don't think that's unreasonable its just human nature.

not a great result for the USA.

yeah this looks like nonsense.

Ha ha i thought somebody would pick me up wrong.

 

TBH mate i think he has been up there with some of the worst signings Rangers have ever made. In terms of fee, wages and ability.

 

But because he is a Rangers fan it's ok according to some.

I wouldn't go that far in fairness. we've had a lot of success since he joined and I don't buy into the theory that's despite him.

my worst one ever was kanchelskis. must have cost us 12 to 15 million all in.

Good points mate.

 

But alot of Rangers fans think Lee McCulloch is a player, so it's all about opions.

do you really think they rate jig? or just appreciate him in difficult times.

I don't thi.k he's as bad as folk make out but again we could do with better. he's got a great touch and is very strong but he's not ver mobile at all.

What is so bad about Green helping run the club anyway?

nothing at all IF he's got the cash to buy us.

The "legally binding contract" patter as well as the statements from D&P that Green's consortium would immediately default to a newco scenario in the event of the CVA proposal failing (instead of the more sensible option of opening it back up to all of the bidders again) could possibly suggest that Green's 'box seat' wasn't a free gift.

it cost 200k I thought.

we really need better ideally but s that practical. I'm not at all sure.

its from a brand new poster on ff. its hos first post.

however he seems confident and deems to have backed it up to admin at least somewhat.

file it under mibes aye mibes naw.

I heard the 6th as well.

Not having a go mate but i cant help but laugh at what this has all turned into.

 

TBK and the press can make anything up and some people take it as fact if D & P dont either deny it or sue them in court.

d&p have been quick to deny many things.

mind you denying something that's fact bassed is risky.

the real question is who told Wilson this. its not just one bid that's bigger according to him.

and the real big question is are these bidders acting on it. are the creditors?

many people have told me d&p must do what's best for creditors or go to jail. perhaps even you.

so if someone believes d&p have acted illegally then what's next?

or is Wilson making it up? and if so why aren't d&p saying so.

I'm not 100% sure marks quite right about how the club is to be funded.

perhaps bludell or Craig etc can clarify. though its clear the clubs to fund its self no matter how.

the bit where Wilson says other bids are demonstrably bigger is interesting. he's said it before. d&p haven't denied it.

if true that's your smoking gun.

tbk if they ever get preferential bidder should have ever detail of their plan scrutinised.

good articles both of them.

the real problem with green is its almost to late should he fail.

I can see another bidder being forced to pick a newco or a 25ish point penalty next season.

I will be very angry with d&p myself if green can't find the cash. I can only imagine how angry the creditors will be.

won't happen unless d&p are being dishonest if that's the case we will be safer without them.

guardian also used to go nuts about the debt element of the ticketus deal that tbk binned.

I assume he's equally disgusted about greens purchase of us via debt.

I can't qualify his post but there were some interesting points within it.

 

The only clear thing throughout all this is that the plans and funding of all bids have been unclear and open to subjective interpretation.

we've seen tbk letter of offer. if we take that at face value then we know they weren't buying the club with our cash like green.

guess work about future funding via debt is fine but not substsntive.

the point on the cva isn't set in stone. hmrc also want payments for 5 years before approving a cva green isn't offering that so his cva doesn't meet hmrc criteria.

not paying the football debt will not be a viable option for us. we will be hammered.

You say TBK wanted a CVA, yet you claim TBK would pay off football creditors first. You do realise they are two mutually exclusive ideas. HMRC would NEVER agree to a CVA which did this.

 

Now moving on to funding, leaving aside that TBK don't have any, their plan was to chip in a few bob and then have a share issue which it was claimed would be underwritten by them so couldn't fail. Well in terms of raising cash it would fail. This is where TBK propaganda slips up. It seems fair enough til you scrutinise it. Once the share issue fails, yes it will be underwritten by TBK. Given their complete lack of cash, or willingness to part with it, how will they fund that underwriting ? Yes, you've guessed it, they'd BORROW it.

 

There is also the minor matter of the £10m they were going to give Ticketus that they assured us was a good deal.

 

Aye TBK, the debt-free option.

 

You must be jesting.

you just made all that up but good on you.

the cva proposal states d&p can take any season book cash they need to run the club in June and July.

I won 26 quid all in.

I can now out bid green by 1300%

I will wait till we are out of the debt they have sold us into to get mine.

By Mark Daly?

 

 

 

Zappa, all contracts are legally binding, that's the point of them. If Charles Green has entered into a contract, then YES! It really is legally binding.

except we aren't getting to see the contract. indeed the cva confirms the letter of offer is confidential and shal remain so.

legends set themselves apart from the crowd.

its hard to see what d&p have done that any other insolvancy firm couldnt do. indeed it could be argued a team of monkeys could have done as well if not better.