Mountain Bear
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Look, look, I can be a good boy!
You'll need to prove that to me I'm afraid!
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The Rangers support is inclined to see everything in terms of bravado where loyalty is trumpeted, defeatism condemned and 'no surrender' lauded, but the world has changed.
This is the language of caricature where everything is seen as a battle to fight and with military terms flying around as though they actually mean something. In the real and practical world, people make decisions more rationally and calmly, and rather than manning imaginary barricades, people look at the situation in the round and are guided by their best wisdom.
That's why they will not actively support a club whose ownership is repugnant to them.
Bravado or deeply cherished values?
Loyalty should not be unconditional, but neither is it irrational to want to fight (as in "struggle to overcome, eliminate, or prevent") for something you care deeply about.
Like the parent that refuses to give up on their wayward child, I'm perfectly well aware of the dysfunctional behaviour. I don't like or condone it, but I'm not going to stop trying to change it.
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Aye, fingers crossed it is a conduit via which legally embarrassing material from the board can be publicly distributed. At the very least it could be one way of fighting back, which I couldn't see even yesterday. Fingers crossed.
I told you that the day was far from done! [emoji6]
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LOL poor craigy, too much slander is coming back to bite you on the arse.
A simple question:
Who would you trust more to protect Rangers' best interests - Somers or SoS?
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LOL poor craigy, too much slander is coming back to bite you on the arse.
slander
ˈslɑːndə/Submit
nounLAW
1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
Let's stick to the facts rather than the personalities shall we?
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We have already lost a large number of fans and more will follow them. Give them a new project to buy into and some will sign up. It's either that or they will be lost for good if this nonsense continues.
If a new club came along, those behind it would still be Rangers fans and they'll continue to support groups like the RST and its investment in Rangers because fan ownership is the only cure for this, but they'd actively back a new-born club before funding an established club whose integrity was severely in doubt.
My priority is to see Rangers healthy again, but it may not happen in the foreseeable future. A new club, if nothing else, would send out a message, but it is extremely regrettable that it has come to this.
A new Club would be the ultimate divisive issue and merely weaken efforts to cleanse Rangers IMO.
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If you haven't done it so far, what the devil would it take to push you over the edge?
A properly organised one-off boycott, rather than being just one more individual drifting away on a piecemeal basis.
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I want Rangers to be fan-owned. That's why I support the RST, its BuyRangers scheme and its merchandising initiatives.
I saw this nightmare coming years ago and it pains me to have watched it unfold while people bang on about loyalty. Would you be loyal to Rangers no matter who owned it? The test of loyalty is to do the right thing rather than continuing to tolerate mediocrity and a lack of integrity.
It is not healthy to financially prop up dubious ownership. Many thousands will stay away from Rangers until it is cleansed. A new club will give them a focal point until the original either fixes or folds.
We all want Rangers to flourish but our negligence has brought us, inevitably, to this.
People will not be taken for mugs - and that's what this Rangers board appears to think that we are.
Loyal to Rangers yes. Loyal to it's owners no.
Would I risk the very existence of the Club to rid it of the s***s who are steadily killing it anyway? Probably. Start by boycotting a single match and if the Board don't engage properly after that, keep doing it.
But starting a new Club, while the current one is still here, is a step too far for me.
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Re discussion of whether the "day is done". Evidence for an affirmative = 88.93% support for re-election of James Easdale.
Backed by hedge funds and GreenCo private investors all out to make a quick buck.
They are merely protecting their onerous contracts and the paper profit from their penny shares.
If they only care about one thing, then we either buy them out, or starve them out. This is far from over.
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If you think the day is done, there's little point in continuing to fight. I'm not sure I have completely convinced myself it is - probably still in denial - but I'm certainly leaning very much that way.
If you think something is worth fighting for, you keep going, even when the odds are against you.
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What fighting are you doing?
See my reply to Rangersitis.
Hildy, I find your posts to be relentlessly negative, tbh.
Maybe you've just been ground down by the cumulative effect of the last few years, but when the only positive action you can suggest is to start a rival club, then I've got to question how deeply you subscribe to what I consider to be core values of our Club; loyalty & determination.
I've got my eyes wide open and I'm far from naive, but I'm nowhere near giving up on my Rangers.
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What fighting are you currently engaged in?
I put my support (and money) behind RangersFirst and the RST. You may think that is futile and that's your prerogative, but I prefer it to defeatism.
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You may not like SD and I dare say that customer service isn't their strong point, but they meet the market's desire for dirt cheap sportswear.
There are plenty of companies who didn't listen to their customers and paid the price. Try Blackberry as an example.
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A new club - and it would be a new club - would be followed by people who want a club of integrity to support, but they would want Rangers to get through this period and become a recognisable and trusted entity again.
If there were two clubs to follow and the big one cleared the poison from its system, the wee one might become a feeder club to it.
If Rangers remained what it has become - a club that many diehard Rangers fans will not support any more, at least a new seed would have been planted to be whatever it wanted to be.
"We will fight 'til the day is done..."
Empty words for some.
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The divisionary tactics work well but I think the vast majority aren't in that camp where the naked hatred resides.
That is a small but loud group, we would do well to ignore them.
The middle of the road fans who are not of the UoF/SoS nor what could be termed their 'loud opposition' looked at the situation back in the summer and the ST renewal numbers showed how they viewed the actual situation at the club, rather than fan politics.
That MOR group will be the difference between the Sp*vs making a reasonable return on their investment or not.
I don't think they are as gullible as the Board seem to think any more.
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The script will stay broadly similar for the 'unconditionals' and 'serial misjudgers' of executive management.
It's about groupthink and emotionally investing in a particular strand so deeply that you can't let go, no matter what happens. It overrides rational analysis and bypasses common sense.
Most of them on Twitter don't actually like the Board, but they hate the UoF with real passion.
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Businesses that continually treat feedback from their customers with contempt, seldom thrive.
Mike Ashley needs to hear that message loud and clear.
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any one fancy meeting up before hand
I've got to go to work RBR. Unfortunate, as I'd love to hear some of the unintentional pre Christmas comedy gold from the Board.
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McInnes is pals with Ally, so he will be well briefed on the board.
what makes you think it's going to be an ex player?
The question was who would I like it to be, rather than who do I think it will be.
However, some sort of emotional connection to the Club might make our complete basket case of a scenario marginally more appealing.
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so many obvious lies.
To be fair to him, it's quite impressive cramming so many lies into so few words.
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I said he shouldn't be scoffed at, not that he must be the new manager. Is there anyone you would like to see?
McInnes is probably worth a place on the shortlist. Not sure we can afford to bin Ally and pay compensation to the Dons though.
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This was a political move to stymie another political move.
Board speaking to Butcher?
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the good guys win.
You are a bad man [emoji35]
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superb i thought. you wont like it. its all cgi and fanciful fighting but a match for lotr i thought.
High praise. I'm going tonight so don't spoil it!
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Telegraph go with leaked e-mail story
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Didn't he call that a pittance at one point?
Barely worth getting out of his 5-star hotel bed for.