andrew_2010
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No one seems offended by the killie boys being up to their knees in ayr (united) blood... Calscot should be right, but we know that even if we changed it, it would be illegal before long. Best to save it for away from the stadium!
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Are they definitely going to have Umbro on them? A friend was saying that our agreement with Umbro was up at the end of the season, but not sure if he's right...
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...and then choose to make the announcement of the purchase on Friday before noon! Funny, or just bad taste?
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If you were whyte, would you wait till Friday until an announcement, assuming you did buy the club...?
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So they want the money back on an unrealistic schedule, yet when we can better it (by getting bought over) they want to charge us for it? GTF! Something this daft actually has a ring of truth about it...
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What annoys me the most is non-rangers and even non-football fans begin to believe this shite, and this b.s. becomes the truth. He obviously hasn't met my friend who was a celtic fan, got a season ticket and swiftly gave it up due to the bigoted pseudo-Irish nonsense. And the embarrassing Neil Lennon. It's easy to say ignore this rubbish, but the mud is beginning to stick... glad the illegality of singing a song at a football ground has been challenged!
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Scottish Teams in Europe; How poor are the Old Firm
andrew_2010 replied to andrew_2010's topic in Rangers Chat
Agreed rbr! It's so obvious, and surely promotes the idea of an earlier start/summer football? Either way, the smaller teams need to do something. Or the league has to help them more. I guess it would make a good start for an article, particularly with the European football coming up, better than the tripe on the BBC about how McGeady was Scotlands savior... Sadly I'm no writer. There are many different ways to show the breakdown of this and if there is a better way to make it readable, I will happily do the changes. From a Rangers point of view, take out our contribution, and Scotland would be on 15.75 I think it was, which would mean 25th place. That means the champions have to go through 2 qualifiers to get to the group stage. Sadly, I'm no journo, and tend to get distracted and go off on tangents. Anyone interested in taking the glory can do so, as long as I get a wee thank-you! -
Scottish Teams in Europe; How poor are the Old Firm
andrew_2010 replied to andrew_2010's topic in Rangers Chat
also, as it stands, there is no difference between being ranked 14th and 15th. To finish 13th, and get automatic entry for SPL champs (provided the CL champions gain auto entry though their league spot) we need an additional 10 points... Minimum possible with progress to needed stage: 1 (win vs psv) + 1 (QF bonus) + 2 (win/lose or draw/draw @QF1) + 1 (SF bonus) + 3 (qualifying from SF plus final bonus) and that's only 8, if we won the final we'd get another 2, I don't know if you get a bonus for winning tournament... Dream scenario: 3 (win vs PSV + QF bonus) + 5 (win/win @QF and SF bonus) and so a win in one leg of the semi's would get us up to 13th. Too much maths for a Saturday, I'll leave it there for now -
Scottish Teams in Europe; How poor are the Old Firm
andrew_2010 replied to andrew_2010's topic in Rangers Chat
The difference between the team coefficient is due to the fact that all teams get 20% of the national coeffiicient, hence why this year our coefficient is 12.72 and not 12 as in my table. Also, points gained in qualifiers are not included in team coefficients. What I have looked at is each clubs contribution to the countries coefficient and not the clubs actual coefficient. Effectively we get an additional fifth on whatever points we accumulate from now on. For Scotland to get to 14th,, Scotland need an additional 0.7 points, and as we are only one team left from 5, it means we need to get another 3.5 points ourselves. It is possible, but qualification for the quarters is essential. That gives us one bonus point, and we will get there by either winning (2 points) or by pens (1 point) and so would need another positive result in the quarters. Good to know someone is checking it though All my numbers came from Bert Kassies fantastic site: http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/ In addition here are the expected weighted percentage contributions in order: 22.33333333 12.33333333 22.33333333 4 4 3.333333333 8.333333333 8.333333333 5 5 5 But this is assuming everyone gets equal points, so it's slightly warped in the sense that if one team has a good year, the rest having an "ok" year doesn't cut it, so fair play to aberdeen who are probably the only team to get close to there "share" all teams being equal, and that includes Aberdeen being in europe in the 2008 year. -
I think we all know that Scotland is a poor league, but how much are Rangers (and Celtic) doing to save our nations blushes, and maintain a decent prospect of entry into the champions league? Scotland are currently ranked 13th, and this data reveals that 50% of the coefficient acquired by Scottish teams is due to Rangers. Almost 85% is contributed by the Old Firm. What I have checked is where Scotland would be without the Old Firm. i.e. the number of points gained by other Scottish teams, divided by the number of teams (excluding the OF). What this shows is the coefficient would be 7.08. That is good enough to be ranked THIRTY SIXTH. Let's put that in perspective: That is ranked LOWER than countries such as CYPRUS, BELARUS, IRELAND, MOLDOVA, LITHUANIA and LATVIA. Barely above lowly GEORGIA and AZERBAIJAN. In contrast, the Rangers and Celtic, if they were not hindered by the poor performance of their fellow Scottish teams, would have a national coefficient of FORTY SIX if shared between them. That would rank SIXTH in the UEFA Country rankings. Above PORTUGAL and RUSSIA. Sixth place would be good enough for AUTOMATIC qualification into the group stages for BOTH clubs. Even if you added a third Scottish team (and assumed they contributed nothing) the Scottish coefficient would be 30.6667 which would be 12th, three places above their current 15th position, again, meaning again automatic entry, although only for the champions. Due to the way the dates work across Europe with Summer Football, and needing to know how many places are up for grabs before the season starts, this is in reference to european entry for the season 2012/13. Thoughts are welcome, and if there are any writers out there that wish to use this for an article, feel free! Thanks to Zappa for best method to get the table uploaded!
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haha, well it was what I was doing friday afternoon instead of work, and wanted to share it over the weekend! using an image file, and just wondering now if I can have it full size automatically rather than a thumbnail...
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Cheers, will get that up as soon as!
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I was wondering if it was possible to show tables (like in excel) on the forum? I was bored at work being ignored and under appreciated, so thought I'd put my mad maths skills to work and play around with uefa co-efficient points, and got some interesting results! If it wasn't for the old firm, the SPL would be ranked below the Irish League! Would be good to let everyone see it!
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an independent summary of the old firm...
andrew_2010 replied to andrew_2010's topic in Rangers Chat
Apologies, I totally missed it. I actually saw it on facebook from a canadian friend living in Glasgow who has no interest in football! -
Quite possibly the best article I've seen in print on the old firm. And what is even rarer, it seems balanced and objective! What do you think? http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/rangers-and-celtic-disunited-they-stand-2236083.html
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I'm sure I've read that we don't really "train" during the week. As we have so many games and such a small squad, everybody is basically involved in the matches, then there is the recovery from a game... It is concerning that Beattie looks so much better now, but part of that may be the fact he gets more space, or in fact we helped get him out of his slump of not playing in ages, and now he's back regularly Blackpool they are seeing the benefit. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he's only away on loan?
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Anyone else reminded of the Fawlty towers episode with the German visitors? He keeps talking about the war... Then the Germans complain: "Vy do you keep talking about ze vor?!" "You started it!" "No ve didn't!" "Yes you did! You invaded Poland!" kinda like celtic victimising diouf, which is OK, because he started it the last time the tims had a run in Europe... when was that again?!
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Out of interest, do we find out what these stats are? and how they were split between the teams? I'm sure there are plenty idiots on our side that deserved it, I am not ashamed to admit that, just cos an idiot supports the same team does not mean I should support him, especially if he is shaming my team and myself as he sullies the name of Gers fans in the process. I just have this perception that the "crimes" of singing Gers songs is targeted more than singing Celtic equivalents, and singing is barely a crime... unless you count the x-factor/Britain's got talent stuff...
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Metaphor or no metaphor; This type of language is distasteful at best, if not verging on threatening. What if some lunatic takes his words seriously?
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I'm not particularly for the EHD signing, but I'll be damned if I'm going to condemn him when, you're right, "he's done nothing" to warrant this witch-hunt other than a previous crime for which he served his punishment. As far as I'm concerned, everyone from day one has been out to wind him up, and most of the "trouble" has found him. None more so than what the perpetually offended CFC have dished out. What has he done since arriving that has been anything worse than the likes of Novo, Brown, Alex Rae Sutton, and even the angelic saint himself, Neil Lennon have done to wind up the opposition and/or defend themselves? Until he does something worthy of universal condemnation, as a Bear, I'll do my best to support him as well as anyone else from the rest of our team!
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At least someone has gone on the record and pointed out it is a scottish society/drink problem and not just "big bad Rangers".
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Scotland should be shamed at the persecution of Diouf, there's no other word for it. The ref fell into that plan far too easily. Shambolic.
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The most "explosive" game prior to last nights farce, in my mind has to be the game in which thompson and Sutton got sent off, Celtic got done, and unlike last night the ref seemed afraid to yellow card celtic players, the main benefactor of which was the current celtic manager who probably did enough to earn 2 red cards... After the match Martin ONeill "lost the plot". We seemed to be given yellow cards solely on the reaction of the crowd, and the ref seemed to ignore multiple fouls on our forwards/midfielders while penalising them for next to nothing (e.g. whittakers first yellow) I can't remember the media reaction, but I'm sure it was Lovenkrands (i think he was involved in thomspons red card) and the ref that got the blame, not celtic who played like animals. Yes we had a few bad challenges, but it wasn't a thuggish display nor a particularly dirty game. It was just poorly refereed. Anyone who says that didn't influence the game is obviously ignoring the fact that with 10 men you change a game, and whittaker was just beginning to get some joy down the right with the diagonal flick ons where the celtic fullback struggled. He got sent off before we could exploit this properly. Apologies if I've mixed up incidents in games, but Celtic as a club disgust me, they are liars and cheats, and have everybody except us believing them or glorifying their averageness...
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unfortunately we both played with the same ball...
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hmmm, a strange one indeed! Still, I like the video
