First of all very good read amms, cheers for that. I think participation falls very short in today's football. Just look at the fans in manland Europe trying to take part in their club. They're being shown as delinquents or nay- sayers by clubs, footballing associations and the media. Frankly, I don't feel this sort of environment in British football with clubs like Portsmouth showing how things can go down. Anyway, we have to come a long way for this and getting off your arse may sometimes be the hardest task. Just nagging is very convenient.