D'Artagnan
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1 hour ago, gaspard said:
dart, i think it may be more accurate to say that most fans believed we would part ways with sd in 2018 or at least have an opportunity to do so.
i certainly thought this was the case and the club statement at the time mentioned no fixed term to new deal.
whilst this is technically accurate the reality is somewhat different.
good grief, its just cost 1/2 a mill to contest a contract we signed just over a year ago.
Yes, I did have to cause to mention this recently (cant remember where).
Quite clearly a re-negotiated deal rather than a parting of the ways - I think you are right, it was wishful thinking that the ties had been severed, and that urban myth appears to have snowballed.
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I still cant understand why some fans thought we had severed ties with SD - we hadnt, we had re-negotiated the deal to terms which were more favourable to us. Not perfect by any means, but certainly not a parting of the ways.
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2 hours ago, Gaffer said:
Probably. That's normally the point he wants to make. ?
Youre certainly havng a blinder in this thread Gaffer.
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2 hours ago, Gaffer said:
What's your point caller? Smith knew he had a 'problem' before he joined Rangers. That's all I said.
I think the point is obvious - but I'll leave it there
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5 hours ago, Gaffer said:
He obviously spent the transfer budget in the way he thought would bring him success. He did his best, or do you know something we don't?
And as for spending all that money on someone he knew had alcohol problems, isn't that what Smith did with Gazza? It worked out for Smith. I wish it had worked for Pedro too, but it didn't unfortunately.
I am happy to disagree though. It's about opinions afterall.
Gaffer,
Gazza's first admission to The Priory Hospital due to his condition, was October 1998.
He signed for Rangers in July 1995.
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10 hours ago, Gaffer said:
Bill / D'Artagnan: please replace 'player' with 'manager'. My point is still the same. You can be a smart ass all you want, but calling a Rangers player/manager a prat is bad form in my opinion, especially when they did their best for the club. Their best just wasn't good enough. You may think it's acceptable, I don't. That's all.
If you dont think there is a difference between a player who for no reason other than a shortage of ability, and a manager who recklessly spends the transfer budget he has been given, spending a large part of it on a player he knew had alcohol related problems - then we will have to agree to disagree.
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1 hour ago, Gaffer said:
He was a rangers player that appeared to do his best (which wasn't good enough). I think he deserves to be thanked and wished well rather than calling him a prat. Don't you?
I think the clue is in the words "Portuguese prat"
Herrera is Mexican.
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13 hours ago, colinstein said:
would a news editor have the power to commission columnists ?
I reckon they made her news editor because it was obvious she was a shite writer and no one was reading what she wrote
I see BBC have been giving her gigs as well but she's been pish on those too.
what's the connection between BBC and the Herald ?.........you think of Speirs going down the same road before her
Not sure of the BBC/Sunday Herald connecton but the latter is an absolute nest of vipers - and the editor is Neil McKay whose antics will be known to many on here.
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10 hours ago, gaspard said:
Well done Dart, good piece and of course topical. RSCs are still the lifeblood and a cohesive force throughout the Rangers global community.
there appears to be very little unity anywhere else nowadays, any moves or machinations attempting to use the RSC system to create virtual or pseudo clubs for whatever reason should be exposed and resisted.
CS, regarding KP Brake club, probably pre-Ibrox but I would assume the brake was used to take the KP lads to away games.
Alex Craig had 2 spells at our club and made 144 apperances. Born in Galway in 1886 - despite his two spells he never won a major honour.
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A quick trawl through online dictionaries provides a variety of similar and succinct definitions for “Lifeblood”.
“a vital or life-giving force or component”
“the indispensable factor or influence that gives something its strength and vitality”
“the thing that is most important to the continuing success and existence of something else”
RSC’s are not comprised of people who view themselves as “uber fans”, who consider themselves better or more deserving than others, they are just a group of bears who, most probably for geographical reasons, have aligned themselves together with the common purpose of following and supporting the club we love.
They have evolved significantly since the days of their forerunner – the brake club, a name given honouring the mode of transport. A brake was large horse drawn carriage which could transport 20-30 people and brake clubs often had their own distinct banner in much the same way our modern RSC’s have their distinct logos. What a sight to behold that must have been!
With the development of both motorised transport and the railways the days of the brake as a form of transport were numbered, but not so the recognised value of Rangers fans uniting together with the common purpose of following and supporting the club they loved.
The modern-day RSC is a vital component part of the Rangers community with many more far reaching benefits than just transport. It serves to bring together like minded Rangers supporters who otherwise would have been strangers. I have in my phone 23 names which would not had been there had I not joined my local RSC. These are guys I speak with, rip the piss out of (always reciprocated) and socialise with on an almost daily basis. Our local RSC is effectively networking, bringing together people with a shared mission and vision. Collectively it serves to ignite the flames of passion for our football club. It is vital, it is strength giving and it is indispensable.
Networking with other RSC’s is a further benefit, and on several occasions now we have enjoyed the hospitality of our friends in the Toryglen True Blues. Their passion and desire for our club is epitomised on the Rangers website “Buses leave 20 Social Club, Rutherglen for every Rangers game in Scotland and to every away European game that is reachable by bus” One can almost feel the “come hell or high water” oozing out of that!
For a club which draws its support from all over Scotland and beyond the local RSC serves as the focal point for the Rangers diaspora, and one only has to look at the incredible work and achievements of the Plymouth True Blues, @ThePTBs1988 for those on twitter, as a shining example.
Of course, irrespective of the many collateral benefits of an RSC, transport to and from games remain their primary function. The local Rangers Supporter Bus provides not only an essential service, but also by their character and nature, an indispensable service. They bridge the gap in the lack of provision afforded by public transport. With their localised pick ups and unique dropping off points they can make the difference between success and failure in our desire to follow Rangers, particularly for those who find themselves less able these days. In short, they offer affordability and accessibility. It is probably no co-incidence that the largest RSC in the world is in the far-flung regions of Lewis & Harris.
As an RSC member I consider myself no better nor deserving than the bear who jumps in his or her car and makes the solitary journey to watch our beloved team. Having done that for many a year myself, I have the utmost respect for them. But having joined my local RSC, the energy, vitality and sense of belonging it provides is a drug of addiction I couldn’t be without.
Our RSC’s are our lifeblood in so many ways – let’s make sure we sustain them.
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8 hours ago, pete said:
I think the Rangers lawyers will need a miracle to get out of this one. I think there is more chance of an agreement outside the courtroom to be honest.
I did qualify that opinion Pete with the fact I had not seen the smaller print details regarding notice.
If its a clear and unequivocal breach of the terms agreed then you are probably right and we will have no other option but to settle.
But there are stark differences from the derivative continuation claim re termination which Ashley won - inasmuch as we seem to have been complying with the terms of the agreement - as Big Jaws pointed out earlier...
QuoteOK so heres where it gets slightly complicated SDI are arguing that, in this first refusal clause, there are three rights clauses that have to have their financial details broken down and that Rangers haven't done this. Rangers are arguing that the JD deal is a whole package and have submitted the details of it to SDI.
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1 hour ago, Gonzo79 said:
What's the likely outcome (in your opinion), D'Art?
I suspect Rangers will have to make another payment to SD to free ourselves completely...but that's a guess based on what I've read on this thread.
Its hard to say bud as its very much down to the small print and interpretation of what qualifies as sufficiency in terms of notice.
I have a feeling this one will see the inside of a courtroom.
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2 hours ago, DevilBlue WeeThe said:
Thanks for enlightening me D'Art.
I guess most fans just want to see positive headlines.
Supporters reading between the lines of "business deals" does not happen often and suits certain folk - me included.
I need to scrutinise things more carefully in future.
Buster's post above is also worth a read in terms of time scales.
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15 hours ago, DevilBlue WeeThe said:
Please not again - was the SD merch debacle not supposed to be done and dusted?
Crazy if true about the SD first refusal and it not being made known.
Some seem to think the announcement last year was a parting of the ways between Rangers & SD - this appears to be myth and misunderstanding rather than fact WBD.
The coverage at the time suggested a revised deal which was more favourable to the club but still working in tandem with SD.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40358177
This latest spat appears to be each party's differing interpretation of the amount of detail included in the notice give to SD regarding a third party deal.
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So, it looks like Rangers & SD had an agreement that, should Rangers enter into any prospective Retail Deal with any other party, notification of it would be sent to SD to allow them to match the proposed third party deal - and if they did, Rangers would be obliged by the terms to go with SD.
Rangers, having identified a prospective third party - have notified SD. but SD argue such notification does contain sufficient detail or breakdown.
Here we go again.
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Lol Frankie - I think the majority of us went on that journey from "Forum nonesense" to "Incredulity" in one easy lesson !
Great read
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3 hours ago, Frankie said:
I'm only going by what is said elsewhere on their site: http://club1872.co.uk/about/where-your-money-goes/
FWIW, I agree with the point that those members who've decided to allocate a portion of their contribution to projects should be the ones to decide whether or not buying more shares is correct. Indeed, I'd go so far to say that those people should be approached and asked individually to approve their own contribution but perhaps a vote is the right thing (or the best logistically).
At the end of the day - dilution or not through this issue - the organisation's aim is clear enough so I can't see why any member would vote against acquiring more shares to maintain their holding at as high a level as possible.
Agreed Frankie - but furthermore they would have to demonstrate, as a required criteria for all projects, that the intended project expenditure is beneficial to the wider Rangers community.
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Beyond belief.
There was feed back regarding this some time ago - the overwheming majority of their members chose to opt for shares at the time of joining with a much smaller no. opting for projects only. The distinction was created for a reason.
But that distintion exists, however I suspect there were be a overwhelming vote in favour of utilising the projects money for share acquisition because the majority of members are in favour of shares. (Unless of course they restrict any such poll to members who only contribute to projects)
It seems the prospect of a seat on the board has become all consuming for this organisation, to the extent they are prepared to betray the wishes of some of their members.
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An excellent response from Rangers to his standing down.
Consistent, measured yet relentless.
They will soon get the message.
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On 24/04/2018 at 12:14, 26th of foot said:
I wondered what forum would be appropriate for the topic of James Dornan MSP? Initially, the Bluenose Lounge would be favourite, but I suspect James might be about to influence our lives as Rangers supporters. Last week, James dropped out of the race to be the SNP's Deputy Leader, he wants to concentrate his efforts on fighting sectarianism. He received congratulations and encouragement from the usual suspects. The repeal of the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act has created a vacuum, and who better to fashion a tool to frame the real perpetrators of vile sectarianism than hapless James. He opposed the repeal of said Act but is very much on message as a vicTIM.
A narrative was construed where James suffered horrendous trolling from a sinister, vague force of Rangers supporters, promising a specific, 'Smash a Feni-a-n Day'. James is resonsible and correctly reported the matter to the police. So far, no news but inquiries are continuing. If James has succumbed to Fake News, I hope the police serve society by saying so. James also announced he was exasperated by his experience of social media and was considering withdrawing from the medium. It's fair to say, James was informed that he had been quite an enthusiastic protagonist of the means and captured photo-shots of current/past correspondence with both the General Secretary of the Celtic Supporters Association, Joe O'Rourke and Phil McFournames.
We know James has decided to forego his desire to withdraw by yesterday's appearance on twitter, "I utterly despise being part of the UK, uncaring, xenophobic, and fantasist exceptionalism is all I see". James claims this is a reaction to the ongoing Windrush/citizenship scandal. I wonder if the, 'fantasist exceptionalism' part is a homage to the number of tweets he issued thanking Phil for another, "on the nail" article? Further, we should be grateful that no Harland and Wolfe workers sailed on the Windrush, as Joe O'Rourke would opining pity again. You see James, you appear cast adrift on the boiling briney of sectarianism. Take my advice and grasp for next passing lifebelt.
Vigourous participation followed immediately with sudden withdrawal is the norm' for James. He was selected by the SNP as prospective parliamentary candidate for the Glasgow North East(Springburn) seat in 2004. He was hoping to replace the then Speaker, Michael Martin. He withdrew his candidacy five short days later, admitting three years of insolvency. The future for James could be as one half of a double act with Joe O'Rourke, 'James and Joe - the Men in the Know'. The fiorty years of ra Sellik's existence saw manager, Wullie Maley's brother, Tom report all matches for the Scottish Catholic Observer. Objectivity was never a strong suit for Tom, he described an early 1920s Sellik old firm victory in the following terms, 'Sinn Fein 1 the Black and Tans 0'. Tom's nomme de guerre was, 'the man in the know'. You can see the attraction for James, and indeed, Joe?
The future for James should be the Cathcart branch of the SNP deselect this clown.
Thats some trio over at the Sunday Herald now 26th...
McKay
Haggerty
Dornan
The phrase nest of vipers springs to mind...
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On 24/04/2018 at 13:39, Frankie said:
The fact people like Dornan are key opinion formers in Scottish politics and current affairs genuinely amazes me.
Frightens as opposed to amazes...
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Whole incident speaks volumes about the calibre of individuals at the SFA
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On 21/04/2018 at 17:53, RANGERRAB said:
I really don’t know why we took him on loan as he’s started so few games.
I’d like to see him & Morrlos up front. I don’t think we’re good enough to play just one striker.
Agreed Rab. I thought Windass yesterday was nothing more than a passenger who didnt know where he was meant to be going.
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I think Cummings starting would be the kind of pick me up the whole place will need.
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Rangers new hummel kits go on sale today
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I think that would one of two benchmarks for me regarding any suggested boycott. Boycott merchandise which is being released in accordance with a deal we signed in spring 2017 ?
The other concern would be another boycott on shirt sales - I would be worried that potential kit suppliers might view us as a risk not worth taking in the forseeable future.