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Big Eck, on the other hand, is free to roam Porkheid to his heart's content.

I recently put a bet on Ange Postecoglou at big odds to be our next manager but like any manager at any club it's a gamble, you don't really know if it will work out, only time will tell.

I followed a few teams in the world cup qualifiers, Australia being one of them and they just qualified through the play offs. They don't have any superstars but he played a system with what he had available to him. After reading a few more articles on him I don't think he would be right for us but who is the right man for us?

 

We are being linked to Tony Pulis and I would be very happy with him, another gamble of course and his style is perhaps not the greatest to watch but he gets results and think he would do well up here. No top class manager would do any better as there is not much funds available, he would play to our strengths and that is what we are doing wrong. We have tried the possession and passing style but without the right players its not going to work.

 

I would certainly take a gamble on Pulis at this time and no one else sticks out for me at this time.

Postecogliou just signed for a J League team. Hard luck.

Pulis would be short-termist though I can see the temptation. Suspect the board are also torn between trying to build something sustainable and the need for instant results and that’s led to indecision (pure speculation, of course).

It's all about what those in charge judge what to be the required criteria at this moment in time....and it's been made fairly clear that someone like De Boer wasn't being considered and if you look at his recent history, it would be CRAZY to think about De Boer.

 

McInnes was identified with some of the following in mind.

Stability

Consistency of results

Squad building with results outweighing budget

In depth knowledge of Scottish League and specific challenge

European quaifier experience

Knowledge of club

Media relations

 

Bonus / Weaken rival

The argument I've heard made about RdB from those who know more about Dutch football than me is that he's struggled outside the clear structure that Ajax have. There he had collection of players who were used to doing things in a way he recognised and could work with. Outside that established way of working, he's found it difficult to get his ideas across. On that basis, unless he's learnt to be more pragmatic, he might struggle to make an immediate impact. Either that, or we'll have to learn to be patient whilst the entire squad complete PhDs in Rinus Michels Studies.

I'd add that, of late, Dutch managers have stunk, wherever they've been.

It's obviously much easier for us to get a manager with nothing to lose - an up and coming SPL manager who only gets a very rare shot at a big club, or a previously successful manager who has recently hit rock bottom...

You'd have thought...

We have high expectations and a limited amount of cash with which to meet them which will scare some off. The flipside is we're a prestigious club with a decent "brand", albeit one that's waned a bit over the last five years away from Europe. But, unless we're prepared to gamble a bit, the pool of 'safe bets' is pretty limited and the EPL seems to have hoovered up a few of late.

The names getting banded about are so disappointing. I hope there is a golden nugget somewhere.

McInnes was the clear favourite for a reason.

Whether the board have made a mess of it or not all depends on how the team fare until the New Year and who (if anyone) we bring in in January.

 

That's it.

They very definitely have made a mess of it and a run of decent results under Murty won’t change that.

I think it depends to be honest.

 

If you look at it by the letter of the law (football rulebook) then we have handled it properly. We cant speak to someone under contract until we have been given permission to speak to them, In this instance where it may not have been handled properly would have been in the 6 weeks it took to ask permission. That could, and probably should, have been cut in half. Indeed, if McInnes was a front-runner from the offset then you would think we would have asked permission at the outset rather than wait till all applications had been received.

 

Alternatively you could look at it and say that waiting this long to get a manager in is ridiculous. Football is entirely different to regular business, I get that. However, in the Corporate world the failing would have been in sacking the previous encumbent without having a replacement lined up (but we aren't alone in that - look at how long it took Everton to fill their managerial position).

 

We have saved 2 months worth of wages on Pedro and his backroom team plus 1 million on compensation to McInnes... and have also leap-frogged them into 2nd place in the league. We aren't doing too badly out of it financially

looks like we can agree that we've made an arse of the process of appointing a manager

You clearly have more knowledge of this than I do. You are stating that as fact. And maybe that is the case, so I will leave you with your frustration and ire

you can be relieved he's not coming but you surely can't think the process has been handled properly?

How do we know McInnes has "dreamt of" managing us ? Why would that change over the last 6 weeks ?

he's hardly disguised the fact that he had wanted to come. he applied when Pedro got it and, until we evidently pissed him off this time, seemed very keen

Is his family not still in West of Scotland ? I could have sworn I read that somewhere recently.

cabinet ministers whose incompetence or sexual deviance had become embarrassing to their government used to resgn to spend more time with their families. That had nothing to do with their familes realky and neither does this

We better have back up plans.

of course we fucking haven't. somebody's rumaging around in the recyclung trying to find the CVs we binned after finally deciding to go for McInnes.

Titted around for so long we've managed to miss out on a bloke who's dreamt of managing us. Made an absolute cock and balls of it.

The thing is Rangers have now based the whole footballing vision right through from the youths to the first team. That is not really the system that McInnes has adopted in the past. The question is will the dog shake it's tail or will the tail shake the dog?

Haven't we abandoned the 'do plan A better' inflexibility?

The footballing vision thing doesn't have to involve playing 433 from the age of two through to the first team.

is this sunds a bit like caixhina, in the sense half are happy and the other half in dispair!

Nobody had heard of PC which allowed some to place quite inflated expectations on him. We think we know what we're getting with DM so can't do that in the same way. It's disappointed some, hence the 'there's this bloke in the Serbian third division. If we can't have Carlo Ancelotti, he'd do a job for us'-type posts.

Good luck to him (and hopefully saves us a few quid)

I think he will come in and make us hard to beat. I even think he will get us three wins in a row. However, what I find uninspiring is that we won't have our own style, and this is something I'm desperate for us to develop. He is a safe pair of hands, and perhaps I (and many others on here) just have to accept that we need stability for a while, at the expense of hope. PC and MW created hope and I liked that. They came with a chance of building something unique and special. I was excited by MW and PC, and there's no doubt that they brought an identifiable style of play with them. Some of the football we played (notwithstanding the poor results) is some of the best I've seen in years. If only the players had the determination, character, and aggression to go with it, things would be vey different now.

 

However, DM has shown at previous clubs that he can get results at the expense of anything particularly inspiring. If he is appointed, I'll have to adapt to taking enjoyment from results rather than style. That's not something I'm going to find easy. I've really been hoping that MW left his magic hat behind so Mark Allen could pull someone exciting from it.

I know what you mean but we, as a support, don’t seem to have the patience to be ‘a project’ that takes years to develop. We don’t have the cash to buy instant success either so we need some pragmatism. You’d hope that, behind the scenes, ‘the project’ and the style of play will continue to develop and that that ultimately benefits the first team.

McInnes doesn't fill me with any great excitement, I haven't a clue who I want as manager!, just not convinced he is the man to take us forward!, but we fans don't get a say in it but whoever comes in will get the same backing every Rangers manager gets.

That’s sort of the problem, isn’t it? If he’d been appointed a couple of days after Pedro went (or even after Warburton) I think more would’ve shrugged and said ‘fair enough’. But after a month and a half speculating about the world of managerial possibilities, he seems a bit of an anticlimax. I’ve no idea who applied but some of the names being thrown about social media have been unrealistic, over the hill or high risk, despairing punts.

My concern with Frank de Boer, is that he would be in a similar position to when he joined Crystal Palace in the sense that those players are used to playing in a certain way. Are they comfortable, or able, to play possession based football? His advantages are that Holland would probably have a similar league set up in that Ajax and PSV are the dominant teams, with Feyenoord being an occasional disrupter. He has played for Rangers, knows what the club is about and was a world class player, so would instantly command respect. Lots of positives, but as I say, the existing group of players would possibly struggle with implementing the Dutch football style and unless we are going to throw money at recruitment in the next transfer window (seems unlikely), the struggles could continue.

Indeed. We either need a more pragmatic manager or a lot more money and patience.

A reasoned view and well written but paints a gloomy picture.

Hopefully backsides will be kicked at AGM to force action and stop inaction.

It is gloomy but it's all fixable. The conclusions of the article are sensible but they're also readily achievable and don't require us to discover a diamond mine under the Albion Car Park.

That's surely a positive after where we've come from over the last few years.

We will do well to get as good as pardew.

That dance? At Ibrox?

Chills the blood, doesn't it?

Impression is they've talk d themselves to inaction: 'can he overhaul Sellick, is he past it, too inexperienced, too much of a gamble'

Born in Greece.

 

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Okay...

 

Seriously--I've been aware of him for a few years but I can't recall how or why. It was his tactical approach that drew me in, along with his record of success -- I'm not sure how appropriate his A-League success is as it's not the greatest of quality; but winning several league titles has to count for something. I think it was the way they played in the 2014 World Cup, rather than their results -- defeats against Spain, Chile and Netherlands in a tough group.

He has done well in Oz though it's a pretty piss poor standard (yes, even by Scots standards). He might be an absolute genius but he'd be an absolutely enormous risk. His temperament is deeply questionable too.

Plenty seem to be looking for a silver bullet. As I said before, it's a response to the unpleasantness of the situation we find ourselves in: there's managers we've heard who we want but who won't come, there's those that we've heard of who would come that we don't want. That leaves us hoping the ones we've never heard of turn out to be the next Guardiola.

Ange Postecoglou has quit the Australian national team and has risen in the betting to 9/1 for the Rangers job.

sod that. He's been a decent manager at A league level and gets some credit for taking a poor Australian side to the world cup. But it's a hell of a step up to a ckub like Rangers. His temperament is doubtful too: touchline rage of Di Canio-levels which would be a concern, given the presdure at Rangers.

Had an amusing touchline scrap with Muscat in the Grand Final a few years back. That Muscat was the innocent party forbthe first time in his career should be a warning!

survey's ok. Would have liked the opportunity to give some more context/perspective to a couple of answers.

As somebody who made a living from academic research for many years, would liked to have helped more but in a moderately sensitive job these days so regrettably have to decline the follow-up interview

can barely muster the price of a new tin foil hat, I'm sure.

I'd be more interested to read an expose of what happened after Whyte, personally.

When you see posts like this it makes me think about the amount of time we spend conversing with people on here who, in many instances, we'll never meet. It's been fun sharing time and exchanging views with YB on here.

Condolences to his family.