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For the fans......but it is off the pitch that is the root problem. Break everything down and it is about us and them, both on and off the pitch. We have been playing catch-up for a decade and after getting quite high up on the snakes and ladders board, we fell down a long ladder after 55.

Forgeting individuals, squad management has been awful and yes, a lot of it is to do with trying to squeeze value and of what amount to outside bets. No-one really seems to want to take responsibility. Will things change? Will Beale and his team make an ongoing difference ? We have to hope so but as you partly allude to, the elephant in the room is Finance.....and how we lag behind the other side of the city in revenue generation. I note what Forlan has said about the medical department and you wonder what is going on. We know there have been changes made post Gerrard&Co. Is it subject to a financial squeeze / poor recruitment ? Couldn't believe we seem to be offering Morelos another deal. Wilson mentioned that we'd received only one bid for Alfredo (and one for Ryan Kent). Was it the Chinese or French bid ?

Bit like Maggie Thatcher going to the House of Commons to take the flack for the Westland affair (slight exaggeration!!!) I was a younger man listening to the radio live coverage and Kinnock made a complete arse of it. I was shouting at the radio for him to wake the fcuk up 😁 I think the board are looking for the new first team management to take the heat off them with an upturn in results. However, some of the underlying issues will soon return, if/when results hit a sticky patch.

John Bennet brought the subject up in the interview to RTV. David Graham was then moved on. Various things went Pete Tong and they clammed up. Nothing was mentioned about it in the AGM. I don't know who has taken on the remit David Graham had.

Communicaton I mentioned this as being an issue in the summer, alongside awful squad mgmt. and that the AGM would see an announcement regards progress on the stadium disability issues #TrumpetBlown A few weeks later John Bennet came out on RTV to talk about communication issues. Shortly after, David Graham left the building. Thereafter, as the club stuttered on the field of play and several other issues came up that some/many fans weren't happy about, the board seemed to hide in a bunker. The line about waiting for the AGM to complain became almost as popular as injured players being out until the World Cup Finals. I just watched the AGM on Utube and Communication doesn't seem to have been mentioned. Can anyone enlighten me as to who is doing the remit that David Graham left/was pushed from ? What we saw post Bennet RTV videos, was a club that effectively didn't want to know about meaningful communication. I think because various things started to go badly/become an issue. Communication remains an issue -------------- God, it is a difficult gig to be in that boardroom. - Costs Millions (for some) - Stop 10 - European Final But a couple of false steps and you are slaughtered. Honest and timely communication would, IMO, mitigate the potential wrath you might have to face.

Will be 32 in January. At least he'll bring down the average age !!

It is no easy thing to do in Glasgow.

You obviously need to produce or bring in a decent level of youth to have any hope of it working. I don't know enough to talk about individuals although I would love to see Lowry grab a chance because of how he plays. Tillman isn't our player as yet and it would be much better if Lowry could do enough to get in front of him. At least, give him the chance.

Better off increasing the balance of youth in and around the first team. Should use what is left of this season to give some of the better youth prospects real gametime and see if we get a real player or two. It is also a potential route to adding value or fattening up livestock before they get traded for a decent whack at market. We need to find bodies for the player trading model. Our accounts won't work without them. Said a year or two back, our only viable route would end up being the Scottish diluted version of the Ajax model. Vital you have the right people in charge.

I am fairly sure Beale will have final say on first team signings but I am not so sure Gio had the upper hand WRT squad mgmt as a whole. I think we'll take on board the successful change by Celtic regards recruitment. Lawwell left the building and new manager got the players he wanted. It showed how quickly you could turn round a situation with a good managerial appointment and good recruitment. Easier said than done, especially when we lack anywhere close to the budget they had. In an ideal world I would be looking to say Cheerio to Ross Wilson and Stewart Robertson. Replace Wilson, bring in decent CEO and a specialised PR professional. Plus upgrade medical staff. But it ain't an ideal world.

Yes, Gio managed it about eleven months ago but as sure as night follows day, this group won't be able to keep it up for a sustained period. We aren't going to be able to change everything in the January window but we need to use the next two windows to have a much more energectic and fresh looking squad for the beginning of 23/24. IMO Ross Wilson isn't the man to be at the heart of this. He now comes accross as a somewhat confused individual attempting (poorly) to justify himself. Is he on the Red Bull or something ? Can't stop bouncing around in his chair. Hadn't noticed this until the Beale Blue Room Presser.

You are cruel, you could have just said he finished 8th 😁 I was referring to a thread on here about a fans election. Might try and look it up for some sad entertainment.

I'd drive Morelos to Tranmere to get him off the wage bill and out of the dressing room. IF Kent is going to Everton (DB rumour above), he could get a lift at the same time.

To keep it going we need sellable assets, we currently haven't got any of significant value. The player trading that we will need to focus on in the next couple of windows (at least) will mostly be about replacing those that will be leaving. I think it reasonable to assume a net spend on player trading between now and September 2023. Next years accounts should be ok. Beyond that may be problematic unless we start producing and improving younger players.

A World Cup almost lit up by the left back of the team bottom of the Scottish top tier. Aziz Behich was a last ditch tackle from becoming immortal. He could have sent the tie into extra time with Cumdog Cummings to come off the bench to score the winning penalty 😁 Seriously, it was a very Messi like mazy with the added detail that Messi was on the pitch watching.

An under scrutiny Ross Wison comes accross as very unconvincing IMO. Whatever way you paint it, squad management has been awful and we are in a place where not only do we see it in our results, managerial fall out and associated expenses but in the brief flirtation with a player trading model that is already stuttering to a relative stand still. Beyond year end June 2023, financial projections without an important net gain on player trading certainly won't get anywhere close to breaking even.

Seems many moons ago. I have hazy recollections of winding him up to the point he couldn't credibly stand for an election for something around that time 🙂

Yes It is somewhat surprising at just how easy it has been for King to more or less takeover C1872. One David became Sir Duped. Mr.King, not long ago a hero has become Dodgy Dave

The Moroccan goalie had it sussed with his counter tactics. Don't go to ground early and move from side to side, thus confusing the dancing penalty taker. The guy who came on in the last minute of extra time, to take the penalty ended up hitting the post twice. Which was a close as Spain got to scoring in over 200 minutes of WC football plus shoot-out. Their penalties were a perfect representation of how they had gone about their business in those 200 minutes previously. No penetration, it was like a guy out on a Friday night looking for his hole, chatting to quality fandan for hours but dropping his bottle and not even asking the question.

If C1872 wanted info on the more recent merchandise fiasco, couldn't they just have asked the man in charge. In charge of both the fiasco and seemingly of C1872.

Semi Finals Netherlands v Brazil Portugal v England

IMO, we have arrived at an absurd situation which only we could manage to do. After DK hooked at least part of the C1872 executive and inserted his man, (apparently paid by the club) the fan group have effectively become a willing tool of the ex chairman. If that is the case and Chris Graham seemed to have that paid position when King was still on the board, that is the then Rangers chairman basically infiltrating the group to provide a route to offloading shares and until doing so, increased leverage. Is DK capable of such ? ....I'd say look at his history and conclude, without doubt. Are a large group of Rangers supporters so gullible ?...I'd say look at the history and conclude, without doubt. So now we have a supporters shareholding group who do have some valid points and questions but they have little credibility. At least resolution 8 was passed, but the soap opera and problems around these ongoing issues take attention away from where it could be more constructively employed.

What is abundantly clear is that you are a waste of time to engage with.

I said... If Michael Beale and the board are on the very same page regards direction of travel, then it has a better chance of working. The conversations before the contract was signed would have been in part abut trying to make sure both parties understood each other and were in general broad agreement about the way forward. Basic but important. Your positivity is subjective opinion that I don't share. Supporters appreciate being told the truth. They can take on board narratives which might later be used to rationalise hard times. Obviously that doesn't cover everyone. An example being the arrival of Gerrard and 'Stop the 10', which gave him three years.....opposed to Warburton's first attempt at the top flight being widely associated with 55. Real (competent) leadership will result in less irrational complaints. Fine, disagree with what I say but comments like can't take it seriously, fairy story and bizarre just make you look a bit silly, IMO.

They didn't need to speak with a representative of the fans. There are fans on the board, but they live closer to the harsh reality of our financial situation and will tend to have a different perspective. IMO it is wholly understandable why they thought it an opportunity not to be turned down. Regardless, the boardroom should have been able to judge the room better than they did. IMO they should have spoke individually with fans who they could trust not to leak the info, whom they valued their judgement and who would speak plainly. It might only have been a handful but if they were all saying the same thing, it would have been a red flag. Regards to names, it really depends on their relationships with individuals which I'm not privvy to but one that comes to mind is David Edgar. Close enough to the fanbase, forthright and I reckon with enough integrity to stay stum, if asked to. Possibly, Forlan if he is still closer than most, to the loop. The pursuit of Pounds Sterling has been an obvious priority and might have knocked all the above into the Bollox to That file. However, the pursuit is proving costly down to one bad judgement call after another. From King trying to take on Ashley to this latest feck up. The rational doesn't always apply to football, especially Glasgow.