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  1. Strangely enough I am part Lithuanian Jew, part proddy dog, part catholic cat. Anti jewish sentiment is very rare in scotland and tends to come from far right extremists, so the context is always highly derogatory and threatening, but you tend to find that as soon as you square up to a bunch of skinheads, they run away sieg heiling. The 'Kill all huns' graffiti is obviously the work of a mentally challenged, poorly raised half wit. And no, i generally don't use the word f*******, preferring 'potato eaters' instead.
  2. The new legislation is affecting fans of every team not primarily rangers. Table 9: Football Affiliation of the Accused6 Timing of Charges 3.20 Chart 1 outlines the peak days of week and times of day for charges taking place. The main peak times are Saturday and Sunday afternoons and evenings and, to a lesser extent, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday evenings. This is consistent with the timings of football matches. 6 „Other‟ refers to the football affiliation of the accused with football clubs with 4 or fewer charges. Due to the low number of charges, these clubs are not identified for to prevent disclosure of identities. Football Affiliation Number of Charges % Ayr United 6 2.2 Celtic 68 25.4 Dundee 12 4.5 Falkirk 17 6.3 Hamilton 9 3.4 Hearts 13 4.9 Hibs 28 10.4 Rangers 85 31.7 Other 20 7.5 Unknown 10 3.7 Total 268 100.0 As you can see, Falkirk apart, Hibs have (proportionally) the most arrests in Scotland, which means we get promotion this year.
  3. TBH, I don't regard the word ****** as particularly bad. Surely it is a word that has been used by irish catholics amongst themselves? I'm sure celtic fans use it also. As Scott above says, it's all about sentiment and context. Why is ****** or hun deemed worse than homophobic remarks for example? The worry for me is that soon the game will be sanitised beyond belief. After this, it will be fan's sites that will be sanitised (as the whataboutery reaches it's next logical step). I grew up at the football with men drinking bags of McEwans, smoking, standing, abusing, singing, supporting. Now it's like a battle to stay warm in a library. Personally i have nothing against rampant abuse at games except skin colour based abuse. In a way, I think the nutters, who smash windows, attack cars, send bullets, excrement etc are the ones ruining it for us all. It's just a game to be enjoyed, bants and all.
  4. I don't know anyone who thinks hun is sectarian. For me hun means someone who bleeds red white and blue,. Nacho Novo was the biggest hun I've seen (catholic), followed by Hateley, Durie, Durrant, Jig. (don't know and don't care about their religion). I've been called AIDS / HIV / gay by all and sundry away fans, aberdeen fans have been accused of bestiality, celtic accused Richard gough of being a child molester, BJK, the list is endless of insults which are actually brutal compared to a namdy pamdy 'hun'. Instead of trying to get a guy sacked for daring to write 'hun' on the internet, why don't you laugh and embrace the 'hun' jibe. I don't think it is particularly insulting at all and it is disappointing to witness the usual old firm whataboutery. It really does drag the whole game down, and let's be honest, rangers fans are pretty bad for dishing it out, but not taking it.
  5. The story here is the SPFL, instead of promoting an alcoholic drinks company to a nation of alcoholics, are promoting gambling to a nation of problem gamblers.
  6. Personally I found the recent old firm game the most depressing game in Scotland since the last old firm game.
  7. Don't think so - your strikers are so off form now. Trying too hard in a way. Boyd needs to relax.
  8. seems to depend on two things; - How good the 5 loanees from Newcastle are. - If there is a new manager in place for play offs It's fair to say the league has gone. It would take a major nosebleed by the jambos to give Rangers or Hibs a chance. Rangers' new signings, if the one that was playing last night is instructive, are very good. Five of those types in the team and I'd be very surprised if the other teams weren't overwhelmed in the play offs, Hibs included. Hibs were lucky last night. Factor in a new competent coach after your egm and I'd expect Rangers to get promotion. It is possible that Newcastle reserves will be better than anything plying their trade in Scotland outwith a handful of players - as a short term fix over a few seasons, it may be very beneficial indeed as the club's finances are restructured. Crazy as it may sound to some of you, but I make Rangers firm favourites for promotion via the play offs, as the next 2 months unfold in Ranger's favour. I may have a bet now, which will temper the crushing disappointment when the Hibbies have to spend another season in the Championship. Or, if you use exchanges, buy now and trade out in a couple of months as the price shortens. If you hadn't got those 5 in on the last day of the transfer window, you'd have had no chance. Good game last night.
  9. I'm amazed the record sells any papers at all. Every set of fans in the country believes it has a personal agenda against their club. It's the primary 7 standard of writing I can't stand. And the hotline. And Bill Leckie. And the….
  10. Still waiting for Phil Four name's condemnation…………….ho hum. Some lunatics on KDS trying to defend the assault. Scary stuff. These neds make you sick of football tbh.
  11. What did you think of it 26th of Foot? Personally I think it was given too much influence partially because it called out previous crap journalism, which leant it even more credibility. Bear in mind some of the scenarios it presented didn't materialise. It was an incredible read; ground breaking at the time. The fact the blogger remained anonymous will rankle with some people though. The legality of some of it is the contentious issue. It appeared to have garnered inside knowledge of HMRC and ranger's relationship. Has there ever been any legal challenge to it, or comment, informal or otherwise from the legal profession? Is there even a basis for a challenge?
  12. Yes you have a point. It must be a 4 year living nightmare at times, but light is at the end of the tunnel hopefully. Jambos Kickback has 75,000 posts and 5.5 Million views on their Rangers thread. Incredible. To be clear, my worry is for the blogging scene - not for old firm fans. For example, rangers would be in much worse shape if it wasn't for blogs and websites - where else would journos gather their 'intelligence'? The Daily Record hotline? How would the fan's voice be as effectively heard? There is a revolution going on in Scottish football this now, with Hibs, Rangers waging war against the boards, Hearts, Killie and Aberdeen just coming out of wars with the boards. Websites and blogs are the vanguard of these. Gersnet is the recipient of many legal threats because it is on the money with the board shenanigans, and read by the people with power. Any constraints against these sites due to a few nutters posting would be a nightmare for everyone except those in power,
  13. The Rangers Supporters Trust wishes to express its concern at what we consider to be a clear attempt by some online elements of the Celtic support to incite trouble ahead of an Old Firm game which already has the potential to be a powder keg fixture. I've not seen the advert but I can guess the content. I wouldn't imagine this is an effort to incite trouble; merely to get their opinion across as they believe (as every football supporter in Scotland believes about their own club) that the media is biased against them and their views. We, along with the vast majority of the Rangers support, noted with some amusement the recent advert taken out by Celtic supporters in a once respected Sunday newspaper. However, what has followed makes us considerably more uneasy. There is now no question that a hardcore element of the Celtic support are not content with the troubles which have plagued our club over the past few years. For them, Rangers Football Club, and by extension its fans, must cease to exist. This will be true. Not via murder and violence though. Whether this stems from an inferiority complex amongst part of a generation who had to live through Nine-In-A Row, or whether it is down to a more ingrained bigotry, a fierce football rivalry is not sufficient for these people. We are extremely concerned that the rhetoric and hatred spewed out by the likes of Phil MacGiollabhain, Angela Haggerty, Paul Brennan’s CQN website and others, is a deliberate attempt to try to stoke sectarian fires and incite violence at the upcoming fixture. This part should make a distinction between articles, and the forum areas. As a reader of virtually every football blog in Scotland, the lead articles are hardly trying to incite violence. Phil Four names' blog is particularly scathing, but not inciting violence per se. It's only a daft wee blog. If anyone assaults anyone after reading it (from any side) then it's obvious they need psychiatric help and a prison sentence. As for these sites' forums, Jambos Kickback or any Aberdeen one will also have the same anti rangers narrative. If you have read any football forums you will read some horrible opinions and terms, even on the haven from madness that is Gersnet. One need only view the reaction of some Celtic fans to the recent blog by MacGiollabhain entitled “The ****** Blood Festival” to see how these people operate. MacGiollabhain himself has never challenged the assertion that he is “tarred with a sickening sectarian brush” and he has willing servants in Miss Haggerty, CQN and several other online Celtic sites. We urge all sane Celtic fans to ignore their bile. The vast majority of scottish football fans are completely sane and do, thank God. We hope the upcoming fixture will be fiercely contested. We hope, despite being clear underdogs, that Rangers will win. We also hope that fans of both teams will be able to travel to and watch the match safely. We hope that Police Scotland, as well as policing the day effectively, will take careful note of those who continue to try to incite violence at the upcoming fixture. It would be an odd legal system that arrested people for singing songs but ignored hate speech and incitement of violence. Should the worst happen, we hope the full force of the law will be brought to bear not only on the perpetrators of any trouble but also those who encourage it online. Maybe RST should provide evidence of this 'incitement to violence.' I'm just not seeing it from the authors of any blog on any side. It creates a difficult situation for bloggers, who would have to man their forums 24/7, or delay posts, thereby spoiling debate and spontaneity. I'd hate to see blogging culture going backwards. I mean, we might actually have to start buying the daily record again otherwise. Bottom line is that IP addresses exist, and anyone going overboard can be caught. (unless of course IP hiding is being used via an external company). maybe blogs could refuse membership to such addresses. Rangers and our fans have many challenges to face in the months and years ahead. Challenges which are considerably more important to our long term future than this upcoming Old Firm game. We urge Rangers fans to stay safe, behave in a way which can make us all proud of our club and enjoy their day." Here here. You can tell an old firm game is approaching - the forums and fan's groups are becoming demented. My advice - chill out; It does't have to be all Klu Klux Klan, nappy rippers. BJK, Nacho Novo we know where you live. [Today Aberdeen and UTD played a high stakes game without a peep of trouble./B] I think the RST could have a done a little better with their statement IMHO.
  14. Thought I was on another website for a second there….
  15. Didn't both the old firm play stuttgart when magath was in charge? Stuttgart were more than decent at the time. It would surely be a major coup for rangers to secure magath in some capacity
  16. Football like art is subjective. Personally, Barca and Spain playing tikitaka did nothing for me - I prefer physical football and counter attacking at speed. I see nothing wrong with any tactic that produces a win, as long as it is in the spirit of the game. And lets face it, continental teams have won many a european tie by diving, and time wasting which isn't in the spirit of the game. A comparison could be made with Muhammed Ali beating George Foreman in the rumble in the jungle. Ali parked the bus all fight and won with a counter attack. He is hailed as a tactical genius, whilst rangers were derided for playing anti-football. Bleating from teams that would prefer Rangers to have played in a manner which suited them rather than Rangers.
  17. I'd have thought Stuart McCall would be a decent, affordable appointment until season end. A trick was missed by not approaching Alex Neil, as a poster offered a couple of weeks ago.
  18. Regarding the post that people shouldn't be taking 11/12 year olds to games on a Friday night. Sorry GS, can't agree with this. Anyone should be able to take their family to the football without fear, especially so in this era when so many working class families have been priced out of physically attending an inferior product. Scottish football is on it's knees enough without discouraging parents from bringing children. Lots of comfortable, cheaper options for entertainment out there.
  19. I realise this is the first time in a year I have seen SBS happy. Happy new year mate.
  20. If Brentford do establish themselves in the EPL, then they will receive minimum 80 million plus a season from broadcasting from 2016 apparently. It's possible if they stay in the EPL for 10 years. they will receive a billion pounds more than any Scottish club in that time. Scottish football is busted, just like most other non top 5 leagues. Our teams are sleep walking into total irrelevance. We need really radical change quickly if any scottish club wants to have the financial muscle to ward off approaches from even (no offence) third rate english teams for their best players. Soon we will lose all our 'top' talent to the english fourth tier as the TV bonanza trickles down ever more (God it makes you jealous and sick!).
  21. When I was a mere youth, I had a mad arab mate who was obsessed by Jim McLean of Dundee Utd. We were really good friends so I found myself attending United games with him in the late 80s, eventually reaching reserve game levels where we would be standing 10 feet away from Jim McLean coaching the Utd reserves or youths playing a Uni team or something in front of 25 people. (John Clark was playing with the youths half the time - he must have been punished a lot) My question is; If Rangers had signed McLean after Greig left, what would the teddies have achieved? For me, probably multiple European Cup winners. United in the Nou Camp, taking 5 off Bundesleague sides etc was unforgettable.
  22. the gunslinger not really a rebuttal though is it. - No you are quite right - wrong word. Surely we can agree with most of the points made though? I accept that expecting the wheels to come off hearts enough for rangers to catch them is now harder, though I expect the gap to be 6 points by end 17th jan. Long way to go. Hearts will never maintain this form. They will surely hit a 3-5 game blip (hope). Talking of excuses, come on man. I tried not to bore everyone with the **** saga (excuses) .
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