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That's two QotS players, and possibly more on the move. I wish we were in a position to refuse such players, but it's most important we get a new manager first. Saying that, just because they performed well against us doesn't mean they are worthy of the blue jersey. I'm getting frustrated at the fan 'unrest' (perhaps too strong a word) over a lack of movement. It's only been three days! What do people expect? Give it time.

Every journalist is biased, even the ones you agree with. I just ignore what I don't agree with, and at times revel in the more extreme pieces and attitudes.

I'm quietly impressed if we have attempted to get Vitor Pereira: it suggests we are attempting to go for a better calibre of manager. I do hope it's true; it certainly appears promising.

True for most this particular pre-season.

Warburton's stockbroker/trading background really shines through in the interview. I said before that he doesn't quite excite me, but I appreciate he probably has the right skills to do a good job with his background, both his business career and football career. He appears to be a grounded, realistic and an intelligent man. He's growing on me.

I think Boyd's better than rSPL (rest of SPL--I just came up with it!) standard, but perhaps not quite at Old-Firm level; there is a bit of a jump and that's why so many look good at rSPL clubs but not at the Old-firm. However, I do think our coaching and tactics are very poor, and so must have an influence. I'd keep him. Yes, he has under-performed, but he's better than that; he wasn't what he was during his first spell but I still think he's better than his performances have shown this year.

I'd prefer a 'youngish' coach with good player development skills, with an experienced DoF. If indeed Warburton is good with player development, and he's willing to work with a DoF, I'd be content with his appointment. He doesn't quite excite me because I don't think he's been successful for long enough: runners-up in League One and then 6th (?) in the Championship; it's a good progression but it's only 2 years, at one club. I'd like McClaren: I think he's good at player development, he's a 'coach', had Derby playing some good stuff; success at Middlesbrough, Twente (winning a league title!), and worked under Sir Awec. His record is on another level, but like SBS says: it's perhaps a bit unrealistic.

Fair enough--it appeared like you were. I don't know why I'm nitpicking? I agreed with the sentiment!

Well, it's certainly a metric that reflects his level and record, but in itself it's not important IMO.

We perhaps wanted something stronger, but the statement was impartial and hit all the right points IMO.

I don't think a lack of trophies is any reason not to appoint someone, especially since a trophy was probably an unrealistic target. IIRC, Walter never won anything--in his own right--before being appointed. Mark Warburton hasn't won any trophies, but he seems to be one you would be happy to see appointed (am I right there?). However, the level McCall has managed at should rule him out, never mind his actual record, which is average to poor.

I can't believe the spelling in this thread's title has not been corrected! The papers are focusing on one particular aspect, which in itself was wrong, but there were several more incidents that were equally wrong. C'mon! I'd like to see Rangers come out with a statement condemning Mohsni, for what he did was unnecessary and over-the-top if somewhat understandable, and the actions of the Motherwell players and fans, for they were equally unnecessary and disgusting.

Oh, I agree: he's not the man we need. I'm just saying he did well with Motherwell for three years; it doesn't mean he's the new Mourinho. There is no need to focus on his negatives or his positives--he does have both if we're all honest--, the fact is he's not the man to take us forward.

The season was going to be a failure no matter what McCall achieved. I think he's done well with the resources he was left. His previous managerial record was OK: a good three years at Motherwell where he got them punching well above their weight; his other managerial positions were average to unsuccessful. I think it's unfair to judge him without him being able to develop his own squad. He should be thanked for his work; he gave it a good try. I don't think he's the man to take us forward, but not because he has 'failed' as such--because I think that's unfair--but because he doesn't have the skills that we need. He's more of an 'old-school' manager from the old-boys club, whereas I think we need to modernise and go down a different route altogether. I wouldn't trust him to rebuild a squad for the long-term--He's an OK stop-gap, but that's it. We need a young coach with a modern sensibility on the game; and we need to give them time to develop the 'project', for a project is what we are. There needs to be a level of experience, so I wouldn't be averse to a more experienced man to rebuild, but I would prefer a younger coach with an experienced DoF.

Very true, but it doesn't have to be the Championship, just a sustained period of success; for me, Warburton has not had that.

I'd take Ferguson and Vuckic. Ferguson has performed well for Championship sides so he should be ok for us. Is Bigirimana able to play for us? He was a decent young player at Coventry.

It's only been one season. If he had had more than one year in the Championship then perhaps I would be more accommodating. He just doesn't excite me. Robinson excites me more despite having only had 'success' in League One because it's been over a longer period and he's developed the whole club and brought in youth.

Warburton just does not excite me; I don't know what it is. Successful wherever he's been? That would be Brentford and...no, just Brentford.

I think we can mitigate the lack of experience in a Cathro by appointing an experienced DoF. Best of both worlds; that's what Hearts have done (It actually pains me to think another Scottish side have implemented a system that is common/successful in Europe before us).

To be honest, I'd be a little more confident if Jig was playing...up front. It's going to be a big ask, but a 2-goal deficit is not unassailable.

ICT twitter feed guy is brilliant. I would suggest signing him but he's already knocked back a request from a Celtic fan so I know how it'll go. I was surprised to find out the ICT squad are made up of English players, and many were only playing in League 2, maybe League 1. It just highlights the level of the SPL. Meekings has been a standout and is only 22; possible target? Christie has been a good performer also; quick, tricky young Scot and still only 20; another possible target? I know we should be weary of Scottish players as they are not at the level we would want, and often don't step up at an old firm club, but these two have been pretty impressive and are still very young. A CB and a Winger have been problem positions.

I'll repeat my points: McCoist has a better Win-rate, and joint-best loss-rate, but the performance on the park was poor; McDowall has the worst of all, but he did come up against the 'better' sides; McCall has an average win-rate, but joint-best loss-rate, and the performance is better. McCall has actually done better against the 'better' sides. I think it illustrates that they all have a similar record, if you extrapolate a full season. One's opinion of whom is best just depends on a subjective judgement on the performance on the park.

Oh, he has to take the blame, but I'm just saying it's not as simple as Boyd suddenly becoming incompetent. At Kilmarnock he wasn't at the level he was at us during his first spell, but still performed better than he has during his second spell.

The comparison is not as simple as that, but yes, I agree. He was always just a poacher. He scored more with Kilmarnock in the SPL than he has with us in 2nd Division, so it's not all down to him, surely? My point was that he's cumbersome, and was never quick, but that doesn't mean he's not 'fit'. I think he can last 90 minutes? And those players said he was a 'bad' trainer, not unfit. He's just not a good trainer.

It never mattered when he was banging the goals in! I wouldn't care now if he was scoring. You always get some players that just don't train well. I recall stories of Matt Le Tissier being a poor trainer, but a genius on the pitch. When Alan Ball took over at Southampton, the team barely trained, and it was Le Gods best spell in football. There are certain players that don't train well, but they don't need to to play well. We are only criticising Boyd now because he's not doing it on the pitch--correctly IMO.