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Maybe not the fun I had in mind! You get some funny clips:

OK, he is on more than we can afford! My point was his mental problems might mean he has to take a step down (with a pay cut), would you take a gamble on him?

As has been said above: the questions from the journalists were ridiculous, mostly based on their own wild speculations. Clueless. I've seen better questions posed on this thread.

I know what you mean, but He did then say ultimately it'll be down to the new manager. I don't have a problem with some targets being drawn up--I think he mentioned players that were available, which is not a specific target as such.

That was brilliant! All these journalists assume they know what's going on, and then for Dave to just brush that aside. Brilliant.

I know Ravel Morrison has his problems--not to mention he's probably on more than we can afford--, but would anyone take a gamble on him? Talented boy. I always thought Jack Collison looked decent also.

You could also just go to the English language version: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/statistik/vertragslosespieler

I'm so glad you said that. I am somewhat sympathetic to your view--the lack of experience etc.--as I've mentioned before, but I believe the record is, not irrelevant as such, but not that important because I think he has the skills we require; I'd rather have the skills rather than experience. I have no time for individuals who say "I won't give Rangers my support because xxxx is manager", without providing a proper reason; as you say, it says a lot about the individual. We need to give any new manager or full support and time to implement his philosophy.

I thought of this when I read the OP (just substitute Chico Flores for Guidetti):

Excellent--we can have some fun with them!

Can you post vines? On reading the OP I had the vine of Sam Allardyce laughing at a player's dive and getting no sympathy come to my mind.

For me, McCall is an old-school coach like the others we've had over the last 10 years. He may be a better coach than most of what we've had, but he, IMO, is just a different shade of what we've had. I'm not criticising the job he's done: I believe he's done the best he could. If he did get the job, and was able to build is own side, I don't see how we'd be any better than we have been over the last 10 years? He may get us winning, but it'd be awful football that's stuck in the past. I appreciate your point that we may not need a different philosophy in Scotland because it is a stagnant football culture. However, how is it ever going to change if someone doesn't develop a different way? We all want to see good football, but that'll not happen with an old-school Scottish manager (not specifically McCall). We have an opportunity to rebuild our whole infrastructure, and I cannot understand why anyone would simply want to recreate the same inefficient and unsuccessful infrastructure--for that's what it was--we had before; is that not the stagnation you we're highlighting? I've always said we need to change our set-up and outlook, I've been saying it for the last 10-15 years, but now we actually have an opportunity to progress and develop something better. I hope we take it. Repeating the same things over and over again, but hoping for something different is the definition of madness.

Experience doesn't necessarily translate into skills. A manager with the experience and the skills we require is not available for being far too expensive, and they will generally play a type of old-school football that is awful to watch a la Walter, McLeish, McCall etc. We need a younger coach with a modern, progressive philosophy. I'd rather have a man with the skills to do the job in a progressive way, rather than an old-school manager with the experience. I believe Warburton and Cathro have the skills, although Cathro less than Warburton; either would be a good appointment. Can we get both? (Too far...?) I'm not sure of Vitor Pereira simply because his track record consists of going to clubs that have a chance of winning leagues with money to spend, so I'm not sure how that is anything like our current situation.

Count me in for next season!

He excites me, but I question whether he is ready for the magnitude of this job. He certainly has skills that I would want, but I'm not sure about the range of skills. I think perhaps Warburton has more skills.

We've discussed this before. I suppose you're right: the metric of trophies won is indicative of the level at which he has managed. However, Gordon Strachan or Walter Smith, for example, can win nothing in England, but win a lot in Scotland, so I don't think it's indicative of ability as such. Do you think that a manager that has won lots of trophies in Scotland is better or worse than a manger that has led a EPL side to top 10? He ultimately failed, but I still maintain he did an OK (I'll revise down my estimation from 'Good') job with the resources he had available.

I never said he had a good record or lots of experience, in fact I've been openly critical of both his experience and his managerial record. What I did say was he appears to have the skills we require. I want someone that can do the job. He seems to run a tight ship, brings in youth, develops players, plays a 4-3-3 (according to a former player--who better as a witness?), plays 'triangles' in possession and builds from the back, likes lots of shots on target and crosses, and his financial past suggests he can deal with the pressure. He's not quite a 'star' name, but, to me, he appears to have the skills that we require, and most importantly, he looks like a credible target. I'm still more excited by Ian Cathro, but, on reflection, I'm not sure he has the skills. I'm not taking a swipe, but I'm not sure what Henk Ten Cate brings to the table? Good tactician he may be, but he's been working with the best teams, and I'm not sure he knows how to rebuild a club as such. Moreover, HTC doesn't actually have the record you advocate, because he has only managed Ajax and Panathanaikos at the top level (the rest being assistant jobs). He is a bit of a drifter recently, so perhaps he could be a target. I would certainly trust him to get the team playing well, but I'm not sure about rebuilding the clubs infrastructure.

The more I read about Warburton the more impressed I become. He appears to have the skills. Get him signed Dave!

It's amazing what you can publish when you reference 'in-house' sources ("*insert newspaper here* understands..."). Tripe. Like any University assignment, a paper should fully reference their sources. I doubt that McInnes is even in the picture despite every 'paper' under the sun wheeling that line out. As for Walter Smith... I'm not going to dignify that with a response.

McCall at his very best is a decent manager, but his managerial record has not been littered with success (I'm not complaining about a lack of trophies because that is an unfair metric considering the level at which he has managed). I think he was given the job because he was a Rangers man, he was someone to galvanise the players for a final push, and I actually think he did a good job with the resources he had at hand. He probably could do better with his own side, but what level of side could he assemble in our current situation? McLeish did well because he had a good squad, not because he was tactically proficient. McCall is an old-school manager, but not a 'coach' that can rebuild the infrastructure of the club and get the team(s)--for it's every level of our team really--playing a modern, technical brand of football. I think that's my main problem with McCall: he would 'assemble' a squad, but not develop it; and the football wouldn't be great. His record and 'philosophy' does not instill me with the confidence that he could rebuild our infrastructure in the right way. He should be thanked for his work, but told "no thanks", for we need to go down a different route.

I'm not in favour of the same-old Scottish manager; it may have worked in the past when we had the resources and infrastructure, but the football was still awful. The options above are very much cut from the same cloth. Warburton doesn't excite me because he doesn't really have a record but I'm warming to him as I think he may have the necessary skills to completely rebuild our infrastructure. Cathro would excite me because he's got a modern football philosophy but he's inexperienced and would probably need someone experienced beside him (which I'd be in favour of as I think the DoF route is the way forward); then again, experience is not really necessary if you've got the skills, look at Mourinho. I think we need to be pragmatic at this juncture. We need to rebuild. Warburton would seem to possess the skills to do that. Perhaps Cathro could be an option for the future once we have an infrastructure and a better base from which he can implement his philosophy?

All this back-and-forth 'debate' and you've stopped it with an absolutely spot-on question cutting to the heart of the matter: Would McCall even get considered for the job had he not played for Rangers? Brilliant. (Oh, the answer's Hell No!)

If it's their opinion they can say what they want. If their peddling an outright lie as fact, then that's shoddy journalism and shouldn't be tolerated. I wouldn't go so far as say their is "a war of hatred against our club", simply a group of 'journalists, columnists, commentators, that have an anti-Rangers viewpoint. They're entitled to there opinion, but they shouldn't be allowed to write outright lies. It's certainly grating, but that's because we don't agree with it; it doesn't give us the right to get an individual 'banned' or 'shut-down' for an opinion.

I'm not so sure. I agree there is quite a difference in definition and job responsibility, but I still think all news reporters are biased to a certain extent. In simple terms a Journalist would report news, but how they report it (tone, word choice etc.) will be refection of their own feelings and beliefs on the matter.

That's two QotS players, and possibly more on the move. I wish we were in a position to refuse such players, but it's most important we get a new manager first. Saying that, just because they performed well against us doesn't mean they are worthy of the blue jersey. I'm getting frustrated at the fan 'unrest' (perhaps too strong a word) over a lack of movement. It's only been three days! What do people expect? Give it time.