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Feel quite confident about today. We've not played a team willing to open and come forward for a while so with the onus in Celtic to attack, I genuinely feel that will suit us (if we are on our game). Morelos needs his shooting boots on today. 

Apparently some random guy (with American accent) lashing out with a knuckleduster. He also attacked 3/4 other people around the same time. 

46 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

I wish the UBs would put away the drums and megaphone and just stick to singing songs we've all sung for decades.  But they wind up ScotNats, so I'm always on their side.  

 

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Yep. Keep singing about ******s and Bobby Sands. Keep dragging our club through the gutter. As long as it annoys some people who separate football and politics. Way to go!

37 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

Players nowhere in modern football pay any attention to the actual words sung by the respective supports.  The passion is what matters.

 

 

 

Excuses, excuses 

1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said:

Aye, songs about the Ibrox disaster, "go home ya Huns", Ian Durrant's injury and countless Irish Republican anthems are all preferable to the occasional Loyalist add-on, right you are.

 

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No wonder we're such easy meat these days.

Who said they were preferable? Two wrongs don't make a right. Other fans unwanted chants should never be a excuse for our own problematic song book. 

If Messi had an ego as big as Ronaldo's, he would have a ton more goals. Messi's assists are a huge factor in this debate IMO. Ronaldo is a truly world class player but Messi is from another planet 

1 hour ago, Bill said:

There are a few in these parts who could learn a lot from the consistency and clarity of purpose that’s long been a hallmark of Vanguardbears, instead of spouting bollocks about VB “attacking Rangers fans”. I suppose there are always a few emotional souls who travel more slowly towards the truth though. 

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4 hours ago, buster. said:

Maybe you shouldn't preach to people what to do with their money #freedom

 

 

Agreed. Seems like there is a lot preaching on here these days. 

7 minutes ago, Whosthedado said:

Why does Gerrard not use the bench??? So many missed chances too. We got what we deserved. We are still two or three players short of a championship challenge.

 

Hibs are an awful side and the fact we have hardly beaten them since that Cup Final really really sticks in my throat

We have to be more clinical and stronger away from home. If we were to turn 5 of our 8 draws into wins we would be genuinely giving them more to think about. Draws are as good as defeats in a tight race IMO. I can think of at least 4 of our draws where we should have won. Aberdeen away, Hibs away x 2, Motherwell away. 

Still there buddy. Was down on page 2

7 minutes ago, alexscottislegend said:

Surprised there's been no comment on the sad passing of this great. Won 40 caps before his leg break at a time when international games were fewer. Ritchie, Shearer, Caldow (capt.)....

There was a thread at the start of the week

2 minutes ago, Stevie - 4lads Blog said:

Rangers today beat Livingston 1-0 in a closed door match at HTC, Steven Davis scored the goal

 

Rangers team was - Firth, Flanagan, Katic, McAuley, Wallace, Kelly, Davis, McCrorie, Middleton, Lafferty & Grezda

 

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Grezda? Is he ahead of schedule?

2 minutes ago, MacK1950 said:

Not just the fans most of the players would not have a scoobie either.

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11 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

A vast majority will object to not being able to sing The Sash, Derry's Walls etc.

That's not what I'm getting at. I'm more than aware that there are fans who want to sing these songs. I can't change that but I was thinking more of something new and non political. If fans want to sing those (without any add-ons) fair enough, that box is ticked. Imagine we had a blank piece of paper, what could we do that is non political and is purely about the club as a wall in Derry, Sash's et all mean nowt to a large number of fans

1 minute ago, Bluedell said:

Sure, but those who going to get off their backsides and be leaders in generating the atmosphere (UB07, and previously TBO and CDL) aren't going to accept such restrictions.

 

If it's something that's to be introduced then it needs to be something looked at in the long term. It's difficult enough to get those who sing to not use the F or P words never mind getting them to stop singing Derry's Walls (not that I'm suggesting that we should).

 

If we're going to be serious about this then there needs to be a realistic view taken.

Not a restriction as such. Just something new to galvanize ALL fans. If it's positive and all about the club/team then who could object? 

I also feel if the club want to eradicate the "naughty" words and songs they need to be more pro-active

18 minutes ago, Bluedell said:

Introducing caveats like "non-political" is going to reduce the atmosphere, not improve it.

 

We get ex-players coming on at half time, and I find it boring. Inane platitudes aren't that interesting. perhaps pre-recorded interviews shown on the screen could be interesting, but the downsides are that no everyone can see the screens and the sound quality is usually bad.

 

I'd agree on Simply the Best. If I was a fan of it then it was during NIAR. We've moved on and it's aged badly.

 

Safe standing would certainly improve the atmosphere, but we should keep the pros and cons on that to the other thread.

 

I see Man Utd have allocated 1,200 seats to an "atmosphere section". I guess the club could do that for BF1 and BF2, but it happens already.

 

Perhaps more needs to be done in the Broomloan. Move the family section to, say, the Club Deck if possible and encourage those who want to sing to go to the Broomloan. The Copland has a lot of long terms occupants and using it would just create a lot of bad feeling, and potentially lose fans.

 

Other things to improve the match day experience would be to get decent wifi and improve the food. The quality in the vans outside is so much better and far cheaper.

Without going over the whole political songs issue again, I stuck this in as something all fans can get behind. Some fans would rather stick to football and are put off by the overtly political chants/banners.

5 minutes ago, craig said:

They got 3 mill for Windass…..

Forgot about him. They got 3 million back on small outlay so decent business by the current board

Apologies in advance if this has been done before but in the light of all the negative stories of in appropriate chants/behaviour in football in general over the last few weeks, I thought it would be good to look at the flip side and the potential positives that could come from this. It would be interesting to hear from fellow Bears about what 3 suggestions/additions you could make to the overall match day experience/atmosphere. It might be something you have seen on your travels at another football stadium or sports ground. It might be something we already do that you feel could be improved upon. Anyhoo, here's my 3...

1. One from my travels. I've always wanted to visit Dortmunds stadium and I finally got the chance a few years back to see the Yellow Wall in action during a Bundesliga game. It was amazing to see it action and it made me think if something like this could be generated at Ibrox. Imagine a " blue wall" at the Copeland Rd end inspiring the team when they were shooting into that end. It would simply be based on colour, spectacle and non-political noise and would help make the whole experience inclusive.

2. More interaction between the club and fans to celebrate our footballing history. Be it famous players, managers or honours we have a rich and glittering history to tap into and it would be good if the club could help initiate special fan days. ie. John Greig day, Laudrup day, International Players day etc.

3. We desperately need a new playlist before games. As much as Simply The Best has become an "anthem", personally speaking I bloody hate it because I hate that song. I don't want to hear Tina Tuna before a football game. I'm not sure what you use? Nothing political but a crowd pleaser?

Would be really interested to hear other suggestions 

6 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

It's just my opinion, based on previous experience.  

Fair enough but all business was under different stewardship. I'd rather judge them on what they actually do as opposed to comparing them to previous regimes 

19 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

Given his disciplinary issues, the fact he plays in a crap league and still hasn't scored against the only other 'big' side and our (poor) record of getting good fees, I'd expect him to go for around £12-15m.

I don't see what our "record" of poor fees has do with anything. Has this present board had a sellable asset on their hands?

59 minutes ago, Scott7 said:

Rangers can’t afford to keep the player Morelos promises to be. Start selling him now.

If we do we have to be clever. Make sure we have laid the foundations for a replacement and get a possible sale done early in the summer

7 hours ago, JFK-1 said:

Definitely didn't see this coming as Ajax became the first team to overturn a 2-1 first-leg home defeat in the Champions League.

 

Have Ajax built another young side to rival the class of 94-95? How come they can do that and Rangers can't?

 

Real Madrid 1 - Ajax 4 (aggregate 3-5)

 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/47442879

This is the best result CL in years IMO. RM may be on the slide but Sergio Ramos' apparently earns more wages than the entire Ajax XI. That gives hope to teams in smaller leagues with less money and in turn shines a spotlight on how bad St Brenda was in Europe. This result will not go unnoticed over at the cesspit. 

It also means Real are out. I've gone from not having an opinion on them to really disliking them due their antics under Jose Mourinho, the primadonna posturing of Ronaldo and the horrible gamesmanship of Sergio Ramos over the years. Good riddance IMO. I've no particular skin in the game but I would like to see Spurs win it. I really like the way Mauricio Pochittino operates and it would be nice to see a new name on the trophy

4 hours ago, barca72 said:

I think Morelos and his agent wil be aiming a lot higher than Leicester.
It smells more like Brenda is giving his pal Liewell a hand out to mess with Alfie's head. We'd be hard pressed to challenge them without Alfredo.
However, £25M could buy us a real good midfielder and a different type of centre/goalscorer.

Even if we had 25 million we won't be spending it on 2 players. The most we would spend would be about 10 million between those 2 positions. 

That's wee Tom off Angela the Hagg's Christmas card list

I can honestly see us cashing in on Morelos and Tavernier (if the price is right). £25 million plus would be great business for us and it's no coincidence that:

1. We have brought in a dynamic right back/midfielder (Polster)

2. Have secured Defoe on a 18 month loan 

3. Have been linked with pre-contracts with a few strikers. 

I'd hate to see them go but considering we are still playing catch up with the mhanks, 25 million would be very handy indeed.