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3 minutes ago, BEARGER said:

9 pages in and a good discussion on what’s would be best for everyone. But no numbers of UB members and how many others they have waiting to transfer in. How can we agree what’s best without knowing what we are dealing with? I did notice last week that when there was some signing it was only front half approx in BF1 that were not singing, those behind were.

 

By all accounts there is a split. Those sitting behind are part of The People's Front of Judea and take nothing to do with those at the front, who are part of The Judean People's Front

Just heard that the great Eric Caldow has passed away at the age of 84. My old man's favourite Rangers player. RIP Captain

Missed the game yesterday and have just watched the highlights. With regards to the Aberdeen penalty, it looks to me like GMS fouls on the back of the leg of Goldson and prevents him from fully stretching out his leg to get the ball. I was expecting a stonewaller but that looks iffy to me

I noticed that the picture chosen by the BBC website to plug the highlights was one of Morelos "shoving" an Aberdeen

Don't care who wants to sign him as long as they have the right amount of money. 

6 minutes ago, MacK1950 said:

Jeez let's keep all the elected members out of it and concentrate on the club's request to keep certain words out of the singing it's not too hard.

It obviously is for some

1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said:

If it had "nowt to do with politics" we wouldn't even be discussing it.  

Yip. You keep telling yourself that. 

25 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

It's a shame we don't sing "F*ck the SNP" more often. 

 

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Wow. 8 pages in and this is where we're at? Let's continue to damage the club's reputation because wee Nicola gives me nightmares in my sleep. This has nowt to do with politics ffs

1 minute ago, Gonzo79 said:

Is it just me or are the people who get most upset by nasty songs the same people who don't go to the football very often.  

 

Phil McMadeUpName is a good example. 

 

Great rendition of TBB today.  

9 minutes ago, barca72 said:

Why don't you ask the media or BBC pundits to supply you with that songsheet then you can be sure you wont upset anyone?
It appears their choice is more important than the singing fans' choice!

Totally Missing The Point Loyal 

11 minutes ago, Bill said:

I remember when people smoked in cinemas and airplanes, when people routinely spat on public transport, when drinking and driving was socially acceptable. There are lots of things that were once widely accepted but would cause gross offence today and not all of the changes are down to political correctness. We used to send kids up chimneys and to school with no shoes. We used to condone slavery and racial prejudice. We can hanker after the good old days until we're blue in the face but time only runs in one direction and you have to make reasonable decisions about what is, on the whole, a positive change and what should be resisted. Much as I despise the Catholic Church and Irish republicanism, I find it difficult to find any basis for defending indiscriminate public expressions about f*cking popes or illegitimate f*ni*ns, any more than I could defend child pornography or littering. Give it a rest, Rangers will still be Rangers without crawling in the gutter.

Well said ?

Imagine they tried to reintroduce smoking in cinemas/restaurants? People would think you were crazy. 

It only takes a few simple steps forward to make significant progress

Good to see consistency in the starting  XI. C'mon the Rangers!! Hammer the hammer throwers

The fact that Follow follow is on a banned list speaks volumes. A perfectly good anthem with unwelcome add ons

14 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

It's subjective, isn't it.  I keep hearing we're a 'broad church', so I'd assume there's a variety of opinions on what is and isn't acceptable.  There is no definitive list - there never has been.  Bears submitting to the yahoo (incorrect) definition of the F word disappoints me, I must say.

 

The board have already decided to give the inch.  I doubt the support at Pittodrie today will be so willing.

Good luck with their less than willing attitude when tickets are removed, stands are closed and pts are are taken off.

"But, but, but...ah pure live ra Rangers...". Obviously they don't. Why would you set out to damage something you supposedly cherish? 

When this topic is raised I'm always amazed that the issue of new fans is not addressed. Some tend to dwell on the negatives and how stopping these songs will somehow lose our core fan base. What about the opposite? What about young kids who are not being promoted through traditional family allegiances? What about fans who want to return and are tired of the FTP nonsense?

With the advent of a global EPL on our doorsteps and the daily exposure to elite European football, it's hard enough to attract new fans. This stuff just makes it harder IMO.

Some fantastic posts on here. 

3 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

These sorts of songs are juvenile, I agree.

 

Ditch them and they'll say Derry's Walls is sectarian and Rule Britannia is 'Far Right'.  Give them an inch and all that.  Who gets decide which Rangers fans have a say on what is and isn't offensive?  

 

Good luck getting future generations along to watch us play Hamilton and Livingston on plastic pitches when we become just a football club, like some would like to see.

 

 

I think it's sad that you almost use this define Rangers as being not just a football club. 

9 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

I'll do that if you remonstrate with fans singing songs you disapprove of at matches.

 

Deal?

Do you openly embrace confrontation ffs? It's not up to fans to challenge other fans regarding inappropriate singing. That will only lead to trouble and violence IMO. Or is that what you want to prove this particular point? The fans should follow the club's lead and take personel responsibility and stop damaging the club they profess to love

4 minutes ago, Thinker said:

This argument gets repeated over and over by those who don't want to change, but it's clearly a weak one.

 

These songs play into our enemies hands - they give them a plausible reason to punish us that an average member of the public would support. Can you think of an example of" something they'll else about us to get offended about" that would seem reasonable to the outside world?

 

You could also argue that anyone with testicular fortitude would take personal responsibility for what they sing, rather than hide in a crowd and have the club and wider support share the punishment for their actions. If you feel strongly about your right to sing these songs, go stand outside Holyrood and give it laldy.

Take a bow sir. Brilliant post 

7 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

I'd just like all the overly sensitive old grannies to go back and do what they did before and leave the glorious tribalism of football rivalry alone.

 

Even if Rangers fans ditch the more questionable songs, the Nats, the BBC and all that lot will only find something else about us to get offended about. Testicular fortitude is required - subservient lickspittles less so.

 

No Surrender. 

Do you know it's 2019 not 1979?

7 minutes ago, Gonzo79 said:

I always find that kow towing to harrassment and accusations works wonders.  ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you advocating that they still sing the songs and in turn embarrass the club and get us in bother?

5 minutes ago, MacK1950 said:

Suppose certain section of the support will not pay attention,neither away or home.

More fool them. This is not going away

Well said

34 minutes ago, BEARGER said:

I also presume it means that. I was hoping one of the smart arses on here would explain it to the rest of us. 

??????????

Thanks Bearger but that stat graph was giving me a headache! ??

I presume it confirms he started well? ?