CammyF

So we sell Tav and magically we become successfully? All out ills are down to Tav and Tav alone? Tav time is coming to an end, but can think of at least a dozen players who deserved to be chopped before him. (Disclaimer - I have said on numerous occasions that if the Saudi interst in Tav is genuine than we have to sell him z but we can't force him to leave).

How dare you have the audacity to mention that Tav could / should be here next season 😁 Read the room - he, along with Lundstrum and Goldson are the modern day equivalent to witches and must be treated as such.

Also blows the myth that those three hide and / or are sh1tbags. They never hide and are always available. Hence, they are over relied on. Weirdly, players that are seldom available are thought off more highly.

Tav at CF? Could be onto something.

The quote that gets me is "play the youths, they can't be any worse"..... Really? Last season the "youths" (B Team) struggled to beat Bo'ness United and the likes. This season they are not participating in any meaningful domestic games / league structure.

Our press has regressed dramatically. 1st half against Celtic, only Dessers and Lundstrum were attempting any press at all. Rest of team retreated into our half when ever we were out of possession. Not sticking up for Lundstrum but until a few weeks ago, he was being touted as POTY.......

Having read a few forums and group chats this morning, it would appear that our team for Sunday and the remainder of the season should be : Butland anyone but Tav Anyone but Goldson Souttar or anyone but Souttar an unfit and injured Yilmaz Sterling (as well as playing right back and left back and left wing) anyone but Lundstrum McCausland anyone but Lawrence, Dowell or Cantwell anyone but Silva anyone but Dessers or Silva but possibly Sima

Or with us essentially only playing 2 in midfield, we are being overran in this area?

Meh......... eeny meany miny mo.....

You'd hope that as part of any interview process, Koppen presented the board / interview panel with a list of players he'd identified to pursue and get on board and that were within our budget.

Maybe so, but a player trading model that actually works would dictate we sell him. Let's not forget that we plucked Jack Butland from the EPL on a free and he had played 10 games in 3 years. Many thought it was a gamble (it was). I'm sure Koppen and Clement will know of similar scenarios where similar keepers are available. Weirdly, I'd sat earlier in the season Butland showed no signs of rustiness, but has done over the last few weeks - is this down to fitness??

If we are serious about recruitment and player trading model then any offers for Butland over £7M should be accepted. Brought in on a free transfer, had a decent season (but like most, been shaky over last few games) and will attract interest from EPL.

Keeping Cantwell would be fine with me, but he needs to be more consistent as when he is in form, he is a good player. We can't rely on Ridvan, that's a matter of fact, not opinion. Just look at his availability / selection since he arrived. Plus his stats show that he is no better or worse than a declining Barasic (who'll thankfully leave at the end of the season). I'd be agreeable to extending Sima's loan (as we won't be buying him). Same with Cortes but will depend on how he recovers from his injury. Silva should be sent straight back to Wolves. The board are at a cross-road. The squad requires major investment / surgery this summer and that will come at a cost. It took SG 3 seasons to assemble a team that eventually won us the league, I'd say we are in a similar position now as we were when he took over. Recruit is key - we simply havent replaced the likes of Aribo, Kamera, Morelos, Kent, Helander and even the likes of Arfield. We might not win another title with Tav and / or Goldson but moving them on / dropping them wouldn't magically transform us into title winners. The issue is far more deep routed that just Tav and Goldson.

What can you do with them? Their high wages will exclude most clubs for buying them? Goldson, Tav, Lawrence, Dowell, Cantwell, Dessers, Lammers, Hagi, Ridvan, Wright etc are not going to take a pay cut to go and play at Grimsby. There are a significant number of players out of contract in the summer and it's safe to assume none of them will be renewed. Still leaves us with a chunk of players who we are stuck with. 3 options - play them and hope that they'll improve with better players around them, pay them off or relegate them to the bench. What doesn't help is moving players on (Kent, Morelos, Kamera, Helander etc) and replacing them with inferior quality.

What's so funny? Do you want rid of all the serial failures, or just 3? Serious question.

You can't, but as least close season has shown, getting rid of players who've had their chance doesn't always make you stronger.

Why just a few, get rid of them all. Or are Tav, Goldson and Lundstrum the only players who have failed time and time again? Anyway, you'll get your wish, plenty of the "serial failures" are out of contract in the summer and will leave. Add them to the "serial losers" who left last season, not be many of them left.

But surely that applies to every player, no matterthe length of time they have been here?

It'll be unpopular but as toy say, unless someone comes in with big bids for them, they ain't going anywhere. The interest from Saudi for Tav is genuine but he isn't sure about uprooting his family. If I were him, I'd go, as no matter what he does at Rangers, he'll be constantly and continually slaughtered by a growing majority of the fanbase (when he is in reality, the least of our problems). Thankfully there are a few players out of contract in the summer which will free up wages. Previously, I thought offering Lundstrum a new contract was a good idea, now I'm not so sure. His wages can be better utilised. Top priorities for me in the summer are : 2 x left backs 2 x Centre-halves 1 x CM 1 x CF 1 x RW 1 x LW probably need to add a goalie and right back if Tav and Butland are sold to fund the rebuild. If we can somehow sell the likes of Raskin, Lawrence and Dowell then move them on.

Because its easier to believe that getting rid of the mainstays of the team will magically solve all our problems. It's simplistic - we haven't won much with them so if we get rid of them, we'll starting winning trophies. As you say, utter nonsense.

That's the issue - people quote Beales transfer outlay, but in reality it was something like circa £6M net. He got rid of players we all.want rid off - Helander, Kent, Kamara, Morelos etc and they were not replaced by better players. We'll get rid of Tav, Barasic, Goldson and Lundstrum and their replacements may not be better. Never ending cycle. We have to give Clement a chance, he's only had 1 window and apart from Silva, the players brought in have looked like they could offer something. However, they were all loans (with 1 obligation to buy and 1 option to buy). So £4.5M of whatever the board promised Clement is going on Diomande.

Oh dear

And even if we win all our remaining league games this season we'll not reach the same total us we managed last season. We were only ever in a title race as Celtic have regressed dramatically. That's what makes our capitulation even worse.

This romantic notion that things will magically change for the better if / when we get rid of "certain individuals" is pie in the sky or wishful thinking. Unless those certain individuals are the vast majority of our squad. Struggling to think of any reason to keep any of them.

Don't think it's just a few of them. They've all let us down since domestically since 55.