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We'll just need to agree to disagree on this Craig - I just expect more from Rangers, after all, David Murray tells us we're a family - if so, I'd expect more from my family. Cammy F

As were all other players we've signed, apart from Clement, Sionko and possibly the keeper. Svensson is another that IMO, will be forced into first team action when he was first seen as 'cover'. The 2 lads from Rennes HAVEN'T started a first class game yet, so I don't think they were signed as 'starters' - same with the lad Furmanfrom Chelsea and N'Diaye. But due to lack of signings, the majority of them will be forced to start sooner than expected. Must have read differenet interviews from you - PLG wanted Lovenkrands to stay and wanted him in the team. If you have watched PLG teams of old, Lovenkrands would have fitted in brilliantly to his style and IMO would have been a wonderful player under PLG - his loss, not ours tho. Giving staff time off to watch Craptic in Saville, stating that he wouldn't employ a Rangers fan for certain positions and not knowing who Bill Struth was (along with McClelland) shows he doesn't have the best interests of Rangers at heart. But, there has to be a ballancing act - if the manager wants a player, then surely �£200,000 (I am lead to believe that this is how far apart we are) isn't going to bankrupt us - is it? Cammy F

Because they are representing US THE FANS - if you are happy with their actions then fine, but I ain't - and IMO have every right to expect MY CLUB to do everything in its power to help us the fans. Who pays for hotels, buses, trains, flights etc that are already booked? Who pays for those fans who've booked time off work? Who should help us get this back and get an explanation from the Police? If it isn't Rangers, who is it? Cammy F

But given that Rangers are the ones who had the contract, they should be asking that question and try to get the fans their money back. However, they will sit back and accept this and we'll be out of pocket AGAIN. As for exhausting all avenues, they should be telling us - THE FANS exactly what they have done - oh what I'd give for us having a PR Department. Now, imagine if this were Craptic - Lawell and their PR would be all over this like a rash - but Rangers? No, we'll accept it and to hell with the fans. Cammy F

Does he, I'm sure PLG has given David Murray names of players he wants, and he hasn't gotten them - YET (Clement aside) No, first choice was Lovenkrands - Elmander, then Sebo - so if we sign the Arsenal reserve, that'll be 4th choice - if not, it'll be 5th, or 6th, or 7th choice. I know how much power he has - and its a disgrace - a man that doesn't have any respect for you or me and doesn't have Rangers FC or our best interests at heart. Well, if and I quote - infinitely trusts and puts faith in PLG - it might not be. PLG wants the player and the two clubs aren't far apart. Plus, we could sign him for nothing in January... Cammy F

Where have I 'slandered' Rangers? All I said was that this is what happens when our club and more importantly, the board, sit back and let everyone take pot-shots at us. Our club is rotten at the top - it is being run by men who don't have the best interests of Rangers Football Club at heart. If that is slander, I hope they sue me... Cammy F

Eh, he is the Chairman - so he holds the pursestrings.... I am more concerned that we are now onto PLG's 4th choice for a vital position in our team. How far down the list do we go? Have Rangers fallen that far that we accept PLG's 5th choice striker rather than add an extra �£200,000 onto a bid to land this player? Martin Bain is actually in charge off all contract and purchasing of players - he reports directly to --------- David Murray.. But as I said above, this deal isn't dead in the water - YET Cammy F

Like everything he does, Murray will want a profit - I would also like clarification on the £50M pounds he 'under-wrote' (sp) in the last share issue. What Mr Murray has shown us is that it is unhealthy for one person to have 'total' control of everything connected with Rangers FC. He is untouchable and can basically do what he wants and to hell with us, the fans. I am really concerned about the future of this club - recent events have shown that Murray can not be trusted and IMO we face a few more years of our culture etc being chipped away at by those who hate us - with David E Murray sitting back and allowing this to happen. He has also shown that we have very little money to spend on transfers, so we have more years of bosmans, trialists and the odd £1M pound player. Hardly makes us certs for SPL domination never mind European success. Back to the topic tho - and this may sound strange, but I don't think this deal is dead - YET Cammy F

If Rangers do have a contract with the GMP then surely they can take this further? Or at least make GMP explain what has happened in the last 2 weeks to alter their ability to Police this event. I have looked at the web and NO OTHER club in this area are playing that night and there are no concerts, marches, etc on in this area - so why have they changed their minds? Cammy F

Beatie, can it get any worse that Murray tho? He has SOLD OFF all our assets, taken us �£70M debt, sold our YOUTH DEVELOPMENT, ripped us off right left and centre and REFUSED to stand up for us against the press etc. IMO, we can hardley get any worse off than we already are... Cammy F

Once again, us the LOYAL Rangers fans have been fucked over and Rangers sit back and do NOTHING (that wishy-washy statement aside). Greater Manchester Police had no problem with 20,000 IRA loving scumbags invading a city that was blown up by the scum, yet cancel OUR game after many fans have paid (non-refundable deposits) for flights, trains, buses, hotels etc... See what happens when your club continually refuses to stand up for you? You get fucked over by EVERYONE. Cammy F - Really, Really Pissed Loyal RSC

Make no sceret of loathing the man that is killing the club we love.... And it isn't just his management of funds that I am talking about, its his mismanagement of Rangers FC from top to bottom - the ticket office is a shambles, he has sold off every asset of ours that made money, he has sold off our youth development and if the RST hadn't gotten wind of it, he would have sold off Ibrox as well. The man is killing the club and refuses to stand up for us, his customers :admin: knowing that our loyality will bring us back year after year. Cammy F

Greater Manchester Poilce have CANCELLED the Rangers V Bolton friendly..... Un-feckin-believeable Cammy F

So much for David Murrays comments regarding the new manager have significant funds available. I don't want to see a return to the WS and DA days, but after all of DM's procrastinating, I did think we would have had some money to strengthen the squad. The transfer window doesn't close for another 6 weeks, but IMO we need players in place now so we can get them intigrated into the squad etc. Another case of shallow words (or downright lies) from Liar Liar himself, Mr David E Murray. Cammy F - The Sooner That Lying So-And-So Goes The Better Loyal RSC

Just putting this back to the top of the forum so those who haven't yet donated (and who are planning to!) know where and how to donate Once again, thanks to everyone who has already donated Cammy F

This goes back to the way Rangers play the Youth Teams - our U19 team is full of players aged 17 and 18 - in fact, young Fleck was promoted to the U19 squad last season at the age of 15. Cammy F

I'm going but only because its PLG's first 'home game'..... Cammy F

Thanks to everyone who has already made a donation - much appreciated. For those who haven't, there is still time Craig, I will PM you my addy later today. Cammy F

Right, the banner(s) were posted this morning, but I think the Boro game is a bit optimstic as they won't arrive until Monday. The company stated a week to print them, then you will have the 2-3 day delivery back up the road. So, it looks like the Motherwell game will be the GersNet II debut - then the first home game of the season (thanks for volunteering R.B ) Cammy F

Yeah, I believe that a 'consortium' is most likely and wouldn't rule out the RST being part of any consortium.... Cammy F

All going well, both GersNet banners will be on display from the Copland Rear at the Boro game. Failing that, they will be at Fir Park for the first game of the season (via being the back drop to Dels wedding photos) and at the first home league game of the season Anyone want to volunteer taking them the first home game of the season? If so reply to this thread and we'll arrange to meet you before the game to give you the banner(s). Cammy F

Aye, could be gersnet policy to get a new banner every season Only if me and Del don't get landed with carrying all the feckers to all the matches - been stopped and searched outside football grounds more times that Pete Docherty has been at bloody airports - not to mention run ins with stewards, Police etc !! Cammy F

Cheers Craig Right folks, get donating.... As for another banner, maybe better going back to the GersNet 1 design, buy 10/12 flags and get them stiched together and have the web addy painted / stitched on to it?? Or, the guy at the Ibrox Primary sells large Saltires for �£30 - get on of those and get http://www.gersnet.info on it?? Anyhoo, we'll get this one completed first before thinking about the next one :admin: Cammy F

Nah, been to Frankie's vineyard and it's no a patch on The Mints Cammy F

Pity TBO didn't copyright their display Cammy F